00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.12.08 00:54:13 --- quit: nighty__ (Remote host closed the connection) 00:55:36 --- quit: PoppaVic (Quit: Smile and Wave, Boys.. Smile and Wave..) 01:12:11 --- quit: cataska (Quit: leaving) 01:17:55 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 02:41:22 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02:43:12 --- join: gogonkt (~info@183.27.213.162) joined #forth 07:12:45 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07:19:21 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@k-200.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 07:25:37 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 07:28:15 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 07:30:14 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@k-200.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 07:37:42 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@carrieriq-fwa002-untru.sjz.navisite.com) joined #forth 08:52:18 --- join: PoppaVic (~pops@unaffiliated/poppavic) joined #forth 09:12:07 --- quit: MayDaniel () 09:13:03 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@67-194-80-114.wireless.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 09:21:10 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09:55:39 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@67-194-80-114.wireless.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 10:01:16 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10:04:52 --- quit: TreyB (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:06:55 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cm-6-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) joined #forth 10:11:00 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@carrieriq-fwa002-untru.sjz.navisite.com) joined #forth 10:21:36 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 10:23:14 --- join: ASau (~user@95-26-92-70.broadband.corbina.ru) joined #forth 10:25:27 One of things Forth could benefit immediatly, is condition system. 10:25:33 Or simpler. 10:25:41 Saner exceptions. 10:25:54 That there's no way to pass textual messages along with exception code just sucks. 10:30:28 self-pipe. leading code, count, string - read the pipe. 10:32:59 ?? 10:51:33 --- join: MayDaniel (~MayDaniel@unaffiliated/maydaniel) joined #forth 11:13:25 --- nick: C-Keen -> ckeen 11:13:38 --- nick: ckeen -> C-Keen 11:38:20 ASau: PoppaVic pasted a pretty valid forth code :) 11:40:01 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 11:42:56 --- quit: MayDaniel () 12:05:28 saper: looks smalltalk rather. 14:10:46 --- quit: qFox (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:12:00 --- join: Rods_Tiger (~ian_tinda@host81-151-16-46.range81-151.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 14:21:54 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 () 14:41:40 --- quit: nighty^ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14:42:18 --- join: nighty^ (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 14:44:21 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@188.107.175.144) joined #forth 14:44:31 --- join: nighty (~nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 14:44:53 Yeah...a condition system for Forth would be great. 14:47:21 "condition"? 14:48:50 "condition system". As in lisp...? 14:49:07 no idea. Never smoked that stuff 14:49:09 http://gigamonkeys.com/book/beyond-exception-handling-conditions-and-restarts.html 14:50:24 * PoppaVic shudders.. 14:53:54 PoppaVic: yes, some people know more than regular Forth programmer. 14:54:13 ASau: golly! Really? 14:54:53 Really. 14:55:06 Look at clf where you can see that. 14:55:17 well, thanks for sharing that with me.. I never knowed! 14:55:26 :p 14:56:45 These SF/TF books create an illusion that if you learn Forth, 14:56:45 you'll become ub3r-c00l hacker. 14:57:36 I don;t need to be "ub3r-c00l", let alone a hacqueer. 14:58:19 Then you see that even C/C++ folks get higher positions at ICFPC. 14:58:21 I still say, use a selfpipe. 14:58:34 Forth is oh-so-effective programming language. :) 14:58:40 also at a.c.r.o.n.y.m 14:58:49 Not quite like those "bind-and-dominate" :) 14:59:07 I'm looking over the latest 4tH.. 15:24:26 --- quit: schmrkc (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 16:04:55 --- quit: Rods_Tiger (Remote host closed the connection) 17:03:24 Ah! 17:03:32 Now I see why this shit happens. 17:05:43 eruh? 17:16:25 --- join: nighty__ (~nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 17:18:28 tathi: JFYI, in my bug hunting I've got to exactly the place you complained of. 17:18:43 I think I'll rewrite it in a saner way. 17:19:06 Because current behaviour is annoying and completely unacceptable. 17:20:13 Yes, throwing "out of text" exception is really weird way to perform REFILL. 17:20:36 ah 17:21:33 It seems that I need to rewrite it anyway, because this very place contains more annoying bug, 17:21:48 which makes exceptions almost useless. 17:22:04 still pforth? 17:22:09 ficl 17:22:15 ah 18:12:17 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 18:47:25 --- quit: cataska (Quit: leaving) 19:00:27 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 20:11:59 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@205-36.adsl.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 21:31:12 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@c-71-198-26-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:35:12 --- join: schmrkc (~marcus@c83-254-196-92.bredband.comhem.se) joined #forth 21:35:12 --- quit: schmrkc (Changing host) 21:35:12 --- join: schmrkc (~marcus@sxemacs/devel/schme) joined #forth 22:01:02 --- quit: TreyB (Quit: Leaving.) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.12.08