00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.10.20 00:04:52 --- quit: qFox (Quit: Time for cookies!) 00:39:10 --- quit: bakaboo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00:53:01 --- nick: _mathrick -> mathrick 00:56:46 --- join: ams (ams@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #forth 01:00:07 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 01:29:43 --- quit: elderK (Remote host closed the connection) 01:31:41 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 04:36:29 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (Snoopy_161@178.4.22.109) joined #forth 04:39:20 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05:28:48 --- join: elderK (~k@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined #forth 05:28:59 Hey guys, I was wondering where I can find some /real/ decent primers. 05:29:16 I find the dpANS94 spec hard to follow. 05:29:34 And many primers don't seem to mention many of the things they use - like [if], [else], [ or ] in really any depth at all. 05:30:20 [if] and friends hardly need explanations. 05:30:32 [ ] are usually described in primers. 05:32:14 :) I shall read up more then, on the difference between compilation and interpretation state. 05:32:18 hopefully that'll help. 05:38:26 :P Just playing and rereading that part of the spec solved it. 05:46:41 OTOH, [if] and friends do need explanations when you nest them. 05:46:57 This is implementation dependent mess. 06:44:13 Anyone running linux? 06:56:39 I am 06:57:01 CVSROOT=:pserver:anonymous:@ficl.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/ficl 06:57:06 module "ficl" 06:57:36 I want to know if "Makefile" and "Makefile.linux" work, 06:57:37 preferably, if they work the same way. 06:58:32 I want to remove Makefile.linux, it is confusing. 06:59:20 --- quit: elderK (Quit: Leaving...) 07:02:19 crc@questor:~/code/asau$ cvs co fid 07:02:19 cvs server: cannot find module `fid' - ignored 07:02:19 cvs [checkout aborted]: cannot expand modules 07:02:42 "ficl" not "fid" 07:02:57 ahh, sorry 07:03:14 * crc needs to get a better font :( 07:04:43 it builds with both makefiles 07:05:04 Nice. 07:05:07 Thank you. 07:05:11 no problem 07:05:21 Makefile.linux isn't needed then. 07:05:36 Ah. 07:05:50 Can you paste the result of "cpp -dM /dev/null" somewhere? 07:06:47 http://rx-core.org/cpp.txt 07:08:19 So, it defines "linux" by default. 07:08:39 Do you know if it happens on linux always? 07:13:00 it's defined on the four systems I have access to 07:14:48 If it isn't anywhere, I'll fix it later. 07:14:55 "cvs up" 07:15:07 Oh. 07:21:49 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07:32:27 --- join: TreyB (~Adium@114.108.0.228) joined #forth 07:33:38 --- quit: ams (Remote host closed the connection) 07:34:57 cvs -q up -dAP 07:35:23 segher: all sane persons have .cvsrc 07:35:27 ;) 07:35:32 if you find that too long to type -- well it's going to take forever to actually update anyway :-P 07:36:51 You know it, and crc know it. 07:37:17 And I'm more interested in other features than educating bypassing person how to use CVS. 07:37:24 * ASau shrugs. 07:38:08 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@caen-eecs-141-212-212-148.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 07:41:51 Hm. 07:41:57 "does>" is the problem. 07:42:38 odd, i usually find DOES> is the solution :-P 07:45:51 Hm. 07:46:00 The problems seems to be "create" rather. 08:08:21 --- quit: ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 08:27:23 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08:38:24 --- join: Judofyr (~judofyr@cC694BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 09:08:10 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@67-194-91-196.wireless.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 09:10:51 --- join: ams (ams@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE) joined #forth 09:11:04 --- quit: ams (Changing host) 09:11:04 --- join: ams (ams@gnu/inetutils/ams) joined #forth 09:16:34 --- join: PoppaVic (~pops@adsl-99-94-189-84.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 09:21:46 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 09:30:01 I no longer use does> 09:30:22 why? 09:35:31 --- quit: ams (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09:35:37 hard to say; I removed it from my forth months ago since none of my code was using it 09:35:46 hm 09:36:28 It's purpose is pretty old. Solid roots. Just that your own code doesn't use it, eh? 09:38:45 It's/Its, two 09:40:25 I have other ways of doing similar things 09:40:31 ok. 09:41:19 "..is a camel.." (one 'm' ;-) 09:46:35 ? 09:46:55 was perusing the isforth url 09:51:58 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10:23:51 --- join: ams` (~ams@gnu/inetutils/ams) joined #forth 10:27:22 --- nick: ams` -> ams 10:45:39 --- quit: Judofyr (Remote host closed the connection) 11:04:42 http://gist.github.com/636953 would be code to add does> again if needed 11:57:07 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@caen-cse-141-212-203-238.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 13:06:18 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Quit: Leaving) 13:10:41 --- join: Judofyr (~judofyr@cC694BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 13:11:23 --- quit: cataska (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13:11:23 --- quit: Judofyr (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13:11:46 --- join: Judofyr (~judofyr@cC694BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 13:30:01 --- quit: Judofyr (Remote host closed the connection) 14:31:12 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 () 14:34:38 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 14:51:22 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:02:09 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@dslb-088-069-137-147.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 15:10:27 --- quit: Deformative (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 15:10:49 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@caen-cse-141-212-203-238.wireless.engin.umich.edu) joined #forth 15:21:23 --- part: PoppaVic left #forth 15:28:53 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16:35:33 --- quit: TreyB (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17:41:04 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@205-36.adsl.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 19:21:14 --- quit: cataska (Quit: leaving) 19:24:10 --- join: cataska (~cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 22:08:41 --- join: elderK (~k@pdpc/supporter/active/elderk) joined #forth 22:33:59 --- quit: elderK (Quit: Leaving...) 23:07:13 --- join: elderK (~k@222-152-89-64.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) joined #forth 23:10:12 --- join: bakaboo (~bakaboo@213.238.4.117) joined #forth 23:26:48 --- quit: Deformative (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23:27:16 --- join: Deformative (~Joseph@205-36.adsl.umnet.umich.edu) joined #forth 23:34:47 --- quit: bakaboo (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.10.20