00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.09.05 00:21:50 --- join: gruseom (~dg@S01060026f2fdf187.cg.shawcable.net) joined #forth 01:15:26 --- quit: gruseom (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02:08:39 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@78.104.80.126) joined #forth 02:08:41 --- quit: kar8nga (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02:57:55 --- join: DavidC99|x (~DavidC99@bas2-windsor12-1088926982.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 03:01:08 --- quit: DavidC99 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03:20:03 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03:38:00 --- join: ASau (~user@83.69.227.32) joined #forth 04:24:55 --- quit: martinhex (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:37:48 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 04:43:45 --- quit: martinhex (Remote host closed the connection) 04:47:26 ASau: I actually wrote some words to read random bytes/cells from /dev/urandom and/or /dev/random depending on strength needed. surprisingly, it carried no speed impact when I tried it even though others swore it'd be way too slow 04:48:09 This isn't solution at all. 04:48:30 There may be no "/dev/*random" even on unix-like systems. 04:49:03 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 04:49:14 agreed, it is an environmental dependency. just highlights that Windows needs to include it like any real OS :-) 04:49:16 seriously 04:49:50 re pForth -- never really used it or benchmarked it vs. Gforth 04:50:30 You don't understand it. 04:50:40 but I think they may be expecting you to rewrite words as assembler if you care about speed 04:50:42 which is stupid 04:50:51 You can have no /dev/random nor /dev/urandom even on what you call "real OS". 04:52:13 And one of real-world application for PRNs requires exactly that. 05:09:36 --- quit: martinhex (Remote host closed the connection) 05:11:05 --- join: martinhex (~mjc@93-97-29-243.zone5.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 06:09:42 --- quit: aguai (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06:10:24 --- join: aguai 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