00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.07.16 00:16:58 --- part: TR2N left #forth 00:17:23 Deformative: ayn rand. 00:18:10 ams: she sucks. 00:18:46 yes, but she sucks in a good way 00:19:10 knowing, and having read things that suck is equally important as reading things that are great 01:22:01 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cable.casema.nl) joined #forth 02:55:31 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 03:04:21 --- join: aguai_ (~aguai@114-32-77-124.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #forth 03:04:21 --- quit: aguai_ (Client Quit) 04:16:10 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@78.104.80.251) joined #forth 04:16:11 --- quit: kar8nga (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04:44:43 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 04:44:49 good morning/evening all 05:04:11 --- join: Droid440r (~AndChat@225.sub-97-202-176.myvzw.com) joined #forth 05:09:37 evening 05:12:19 tis evening there? 0711 here 05:22:38 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@78.104.81.94) joined #forth 05:24:16 --- quit: snowrichard (Quit: Leaving) 06:18:36 --- quit: gogonkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06:23:36 --- join: gogonkt (~info@59.39.13.224) joined #forth 06:29:26 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06:36:15 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 06:38:53 --- quit: Droid440r (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 06:46:26 --- join: Pusdesris (~Joe@cpe-98-155-79-112.san.res.rr.com) joined #forth 06:49:51 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07:29:08 --- join: Droid440r (~AndChat@188.sub-97-42-228.myvzw.com) joined #forth 08:05:02 --- quit: Droid440r (Remote host closed the connection) 08:12:59 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@188.107.198.230) joined #forth 08:16:42 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:17:07 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08:18:26 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (Snoopy_161@178.4.18.194) joined #forth 08:21:38 hey 08:34:52 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 () 08:34:56 Open source Forth developers are almost as unresponsive as Mozilla. 08:40:49 --- quit: ygrek (Remote host closed the connection) 08:41:11 ASau, to which implementation in particular do you refer? 08:41:30 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 08:41:31 As for the Mozilla comment, that's surprising; I've actually had very good experiences reporting bugs to them. 08:41:47 I don't want to launch into a Mozilla apologia here, though :) 08:42:49 To all of them. 08:43:13 hah 08:45:35 the guys on amforth are pretty responsive. 08:48:33 That's good to hear. I was thinking of nabbing an arduino dingus and using amforth on it; I'm glad that your experience with the devs has been positive! 08:54:52 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 09:00:29 gnomon: yah, they're pretty good 09:41:06 ASau: good thing that some forth hackers aren't open source developers, and instead are free software hackers 09:42:21 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09:46:54 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 10:10:27 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10:12:12 --- join: crc (~charlesch@184.77.185.20) joined #forth 10:32:12 --- quit: ASau (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10:33:55 --- join: _mathrick (~mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 10:34:43 --- quit: mathrick (Disconnected by services) 10:34:49 --- nick: _mathrick -> mathrick 10:55:35 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10:57:08 --- join: gogonkt (~info@218.13.51.41) joined #forth 10:59:52 --- join: ASau (~user@83.69.227.32) joined #forth 11:01:17 ams: there're much less free software Forth developers than open source ones. 11:01:22 How many free software Forth projects do you know? 11:14:07 ASau: what forth system do you use? 11:14:13 or systems 11:15:26 I use mostly gforth, pforth and ficl. 11:15:31 cool. 11:15:53 gforth developers are... well... 11:16:26 try to explain them that one release in five years is dead project. 11:17:23 or that absense of maintainance releases with critical bug fixes is bad. 11:17:27 yah 11:17:51 I just found out that the ARM forth compiler that I bought doesn't optimize as well as I would have wanted. 11:18:13 I still want to hear anything from John Sadler. 11:18:47 Feeding patches to Phil is a bit slow. 11:19:00 yah, I tried using Ficl a long time ago, but it was too large for my application. 11:19:28 And the latter two are the only free software implementations one can find. 11:19:54 Others are either commercial or gpl crap. 11:22:21 werd. 11:22:42 a high quality ARM cross compiler would be really nice to have. 11:23:18 I want to get more or less reasonably working native system first. 11:23:41 reva is public domain 11:24:05 It deviates too much from main stream. 11:45:53 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@m-42.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 13:09:47 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 13:26:12 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 13:26:19 good day how are you guys 13:43:43 --- quit: snowrichard (Quit: Leaving) 13:46:05 --- join: TR2N (email@89-180-233-222.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 14:38:11 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14:57:55 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 14:58:47 --- join: ASau (~user@83.69.227.32) joined #forth 15:16:29 --- join: Deformative (~Joe@cpe-98-155-79-112.san.res.rr.com) joined #forth 15:19:55 --- quit: Pusdesris (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15:56:08 --- quit: qFox (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16:56:26 --- quit: gnomon (*.net *.split) 16:56:29 --- quit: maht (*.net *.split) 17:00:15 --- join: gnomon (~gnomon@CPE0022158a8221-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 17:00:15 --- join: maht (~maht__@85.189.31.174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk) joined #forth 17:20:16 --- join: loop-hog (~jasondami@adsl-99-152-23-227.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 17:20:19 hi 17:22:02 ever just give up on a programming project? 17:36:38 all the time 17:41:40 I can really stuck here 17:42:00 I created the request headers and data exactly as shown in the successful request made via firefox 17:42:29 but instead of giving me a 302, it just always gives me a 200, and then sends back the same login page that I started with 17:42:33 Man am I frustrated 17:43:08 I don't know what I am doing wrong, although i tried and tried 17:43:45 I tried asking on a few #programming chanels in various irc servers, but either they didn't know, or gave me bogus answers 17:55:12 Weird... I tried something 17:55:54 I send it the wrong password to see what would happen, and instead of sending me the variant of the login page that states that I gave the wrong password, it sent me the first version 18:03:52 yep 18:27:32 --- join: Droid440r (~AndChat@23.sub-70-220-42.myvzw.com) joined #forth 18:28:28 hi 18:29:29 Hi :) 18:30:09 I'm getting frustrated 18:30:24 I'm trying to open an installation of ZenCart which I installed on my server 18:30:33 using WinHTTP and SwiftForth 18:30:49 But, it keeps giving me 200 instead of 302 and sending back the same login page 18:30:55 even when I try to send it the wrong password 18:31:10 which in that cause would give me a different login page, saying that I tried a bad password 18:31:47 So, I don't know what I am doing wrong, but I'm thinking that there is something wrong with the way I am calling WinHttpSendRequest 18:31:56 or something wrong with the way I am forming my headers 18:32:00 but really i don't know 18:32:05 and nobody seems to be able to help me 18:32:06 :/ 18:32:21 I feel bad 18:33:03 check the logs 18:33:17 make sure the URL you are accessing is right. 18:34:28 I'm don't have logs per se, I'm in Windows 18:34:43 But, I would not be getting a 200 if the URL was wrong 18:35:10 unless there's something wrong with the URL you're asking for, which still results in something valid. 18:35:15 either way, check your assumptions. 18:35:43 no, because I save the returned page to a file 18:35:49 and it's the same file that I am trying to hit 18:35:51 :) 18:36:53 I'm going to leave out 18:36:54 Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded 18:37:01 and try it again 18:37:33 and it did the EXACT same thing 18:37:44 but I really would have needed that header for it to work 18:37:51 I'll leave out the body now 18:37:54 and try it again 18:38:45 oops, that gave an access violation, that is an error in my code 18:38:48 :P 18:39:45 I set the body to 'crap' and it did the exact same thing 18:39:54 hah 18:39:59 there is something wrong that i am doing which I have absolutely NO clue about 18:41:33 It's really frustrating to program when you don't have clear instructions of what to do, and you are banging in the dark trying to discover what the matter is. Something trival becomes non-trivial 18:41:38 but, there isn't anybody to ask for help 18:41:42 :( 18:59:28 I downloaded Wireshark yesterday, but I have no idea how to use it 19:19:41 --- join: snowrichard (~richard@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 19:20:31 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 19:25:42 tried some more things 19:25:47 still doing the exact same thing 19:28:26 --- join: WH0RE (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/unspecified) joined #forth 19:29:08 have you ever heard of a type of LPVOID 19:29:12 :/ 19:29:25 why would you want to point to a void, instead of just giving a void 19:29:28 sounds screwy 19:49:44 lpvoid? 19:50:05 pointing to a void is pretty common. 19:53:43 --- quit: WH0RE (Killed (LoRez (:complete your registration))) 19:56:15 SOUND DUMB 19:56:19 --- quit: loop-hog () 21:09:40 --- join: GrayGnome (~MuneNoKag@user-11fabrp.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 21:09:52 In gForth, how do you create a new directory? 21:12:49 --- quit: ASau (Read error: Operation timed out) 21:24:58 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:26:25 --- join: gogonkt (~info@218.13.58.25) joined #forth 21:31:13 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@k-219.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 21:34:38 --- quit: crc (Read error: Operation timed out) 21:36:05 --- join: crc (~charlesch@184.77.185.20) joined #forth 22:17:56 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 22:26:33 --- quit: Droid440r (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23:03:49 hey 23:04:04 GrayGnome: a new directory.. like on a filesystem? 23:51:13 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.07.16