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00:25:39 <gogonkt> Phil applies my patches?
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01:37:29 <ams> alexand3r: yeah, */ is quite useful
01:39:03 <ASau``> One of the bad interfaces in Forth.
01:39:26 <ASau``> As usual with undefined behaviour and all.
01:39:30 <ams> i have a /* word too...
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11:12:52 <Droid440r> .
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16:50:04 <alexand3r> hey
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16:54:04 <loop-hog> hi
16:54:22 <alexand3r> loop-hog: how's it going?
16:54:27 <loop-hog> good
16:54:34 <alexand3r> cool
16:54:57 <loop-hog> I dropped in because I'm expanding my programming skills
16:55:38 <loop-hog> and I just go done using WinHttp to do Basic Authentication  using SwiftForth
16:55:44 <loop-hog> and I want to do more
16:55:48 <alexand3r> cool
16:56:00 <loop-hog> I want to know how to log into Zen Cart from SwiftForth
16:56:07 <loop-hog> if at all possible
16:57:07 <loop-hog> I'm unknowledgeable about this.  When querying the headers from the login page of my ZenCart Admin, I just get 200
16:57:26 <loop-hog> Would CGI be the way to go?
16:57:37 <alexand3r> uh.  I'm not much of a Zen Cart user. :)
16:57:44 <loop-hog> its written in PHP
16:58:22 <loop-hog> WinHTTP expects to receive a 401 or a 407 code in the return headers before it will allow one to try Authentication
17:09:45 <loop-hog> I suppose that another way to phrase the question would be to ask,  what about sending CGI messages from SwiftForth?
17:11:11 <alexand3r> I don't know anything about Windows, but the CGI standard is brain-dead simple.
17:12:09 <loop-hog> brain-dead simple is  Good 4 Me :0
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20:25:45 <Deformative> Looking for a good technical book to read on a flight.
20:25:53 <Deformative> Any recommendations?
21:02:02 <markr> Flight to where?
21:02:19 <markr> Lick Droid440r
21:02:57 <markr> Bah I hate this kbd
21:04:04 <markr> .
21:05:12 <markr> Fuck
21:05:31 <markr>  Brb
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21:07:55 <Droid440r> Better
21:08:14 <Droid440r> Flute to where?
21:09:38 <Droid440r> Fucking auto correct
21:10:04 <Droid440r> flIght
21:21:47 <alexand3r> hey
21:22:24 <alexand3r> Deformative: what qualifies as a technical book?
21:23:37 <Deformative> alexand3r: I will learn some technological concept?
21:24:01 <alexand3r> I guess that depends on what you know and don't.
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21:24:14 <alexand3r> but I'd say, Thinking Forth is a good book.
21:24:31 <alexand3r> also there's the Art of Electronics
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21:24:35 <alexand3r> a Tour of the Calculus
21:24:49 <Deformative> I am not looking for a Forth book.
21:24:59 <alexand3r> Calculus: An Intuitive and Physical Approach 
21:25:11 <Deformative> I feel I have already taken all I can from Forth.
21:25:18 <alexand3r> haha
21:25:19 <Deformative> Already over the learning curve and such.
21:25:27 <Deformative> Well, not all I can.
21:25:34 <alexand3r> you don't understand forth at all, then.
21:25:48 <Deformative> I understand the law of deminishing returns.
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21:26:21 <alexand3r> Forth is a language construction tool kit.. if you have 'taken all [you] can' from it, then you're over the hill as a programmer.
21:26:32 <alexand3r> which I doubt
21:27:32 <Deformative> alexand3r: Useful for a some problem space.
21:27:37 <Deformative> I have no problem to solve here.
21:27:51 <alexand3r> you don't write software anymore?
21:29:10 <Deformative> Reading a book is not writing software.
21:31:29 <alexand3r> then you have all the answers.  
21:33:44 <alexand3r> aren't you like, 19?
21:33:50 <Deformative> I am 18.
21:35:33 <Deformative> I do not understand the point you are trying to get across.
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21:35:56 <Deformative> I am just looking for a book to order so I will get it in time for my flight.
21:36:02 <alexand3r> I'm trying to say you're so clueless, that you don't even realize that you're clueless.
21:36:15 <alexand3r> you can't be 18, and decide you're done with something.  you haven't even started.
21:36:28 <Deformative> Something interesting which I know little about.
21:36:39 <alexand3r> maybe you should read the Tao Te Ching.
21:36:43 <alexand3r> that's pretty technical.
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21:36:51 <alexand3r> and you can tell everyone you're done with the Tao. :D
21:37:08 <Deformative> alexand3r: I have developed a Forth compiler, I want to explore a little, why would I involve Forth in everything Technical I do?
21:37:59 <alexand3r> you shouldn't, but that's not what you said.
21:38:26 <alexand3r> anyway, I listed some books I would recommend.
21:38:43 <alexand3r> the Art of Electronics is especially good.
21:40:38 <Deformative> Yeah, that was the only one that interested me.
21:40:41 <Deformative> I am reading about it.
21:43:04 <Deformative> I was thinking I might buy a volume of the art of computer programming.
21:43:22 <Deformative> But I was also thinking I might like something less general, maybe something specific to computer graphics.
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