00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.04.03 00:05:05 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00:16:58 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 00:28:00 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@91.35.72-86.rev.gaoland.net) joined #forth 00:54:19 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 01:07:24 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 01:15:39 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cable.casema.nl) joined #forth 03:15:10 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03:27:53 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 04:08:50 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04:16:21 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 05:00:04 --- join: Guthur (~Michael@host81-131-241-198.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 05:20:14 --- quit: foxes (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05:39:36 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 05:48:23 --- join: foxes (~flash@221.220.173.190) joined #forth 05:51:41 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 06:45:44 --- quit: Guthur (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07:13:51 --- join: _dinya__ (~Denis@188.18.91.128) joined #forth 07:16:54 --- quit: |dinya_| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07:20:43 --- join: crc_ (~charlesch@71.23.210.149) joined #forth 07:23:50 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:10:08 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08:19:40 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 08:24:07 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 08:29:16 --- join: ygrek (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/ygrek) joined #forth 08:32:11 --- join: tgunr (~tgunr@polymicro.net) joined #forth 08:35:13 --- join: Pusdesris (~joe@c-76-112-68-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:35:27 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09:44:37 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09:58:02 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 10:09:40 --- quit: Pusdesris (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10:29:19 --- join: Maki (~Maki@dynamic-78-30-182-225.adsl.eunet.rs) joined #forth 11:10:28 --- join: Pusdesris (~joe@d192-24-24-164.try.wideopenwest.com) joined #forth 11:12:50 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11:25:42 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 11:39:44 --- quit: Pusdesris (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 12:31:11 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12:43:03 --- join: Pusdesris (~joe@d192-24-24-164.try.wideopenwest.com) joined #forth 12:43:39 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 12:55:32 --- quit: Pusdesris (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13:20:12 --- quit: Maki (Quit: Leaving) 13:52:57 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 14:05:08 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 14:45:59 --- join: Pusdesris (~joe@c-76-112-68-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:54:22 --- quit: foxes (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14:54:36 --- join: foxes (flash@221.220.173.190) joined #forth 15:10:03 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 269 seconds) 15:18:23 --- quit: qFox (Quit: Time for cookies!) 15:22:33 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 15:28:15 For some reason, the version of quartus I downloaded doesn't have a simulator tool. 15:29:09 --- nick: Pusdesris -> Deformative 15:33:06 Because it is demo? 15:33:25 --- quit: ygrek (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15:33:40 ASau: Even the demo is supposed to have the simulator tool I think. 15:34:04 Ask Quartus`. 15:34:44 "Quartus II Web Edition Software v9.1 Service Pack 2 (Beta)" 15:34:52 Quartus == fpga software from altera. 15:34:55 Not user in this channel. 15:36:25 Oh, I thought you're talking about Quartus Forth. 15:38:36 --- nick: crc_ -> crc 15:52:03 --- join: Guthur (~Michael@host81-131-241-198.range81-131.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 16:12:39 talking about forth in #forth. what an idea. 16:13:10 its a rare occurrence, but not unknown, hehe 16:13:52 I've got 64-bit pforth working on NetBSD/i386 and FreeBSD/i386. 16:14:30 Now I need to convince Phil to apply my changes I sent him a month ago. 16:16:59 hey Guthur man. What brings you to #forth? 16:17:02 ASau: very good work :) 16:18:12 Perhaps this is this Hugo crap about log rule. 16:18:40 schmx: I was considering using it on my ARM micro 16:19:01 I admit it never progressed much beyond considering though 16:19:17 Forth is definitly harder to use. 16:19:43 I don't understand why you don't port Lisp instead. 16:20:22 Ya that would be definitely a lot more appealing 16:20:39 Given that you have Movitz already... 16:20:55 I am a bit of a Lisp junkie 16:21:03 Is Movitz still active 16:21:23 No idea. 16:21:26 TIAS. 16:21:44 TIAS? 16:21:50 I am checking though 16:22:03 "try it and see" 16:22:07 ah 16:22:23 last news item on cliki was 2008 16:22:41 eek common-lisp.net even 16:25:18 Porting movitz to ARM. That's an interesting idea. 16:26:56 ARM is an awesome Arch, and CL is awesome too so it would be quite a match, hehe 16:27:14 I run clisp on linux on top of ARM. 16:28:10 My embedded projects are on hold for a while, too much other uni stuff 16:28:13 lisp on the metal still sounds like a fun project. 16:28:20 damn uni. 16:29:04 Though having said that I am just starting to Lispify toyko cabinet 16:29:25 But I can probably find some justification for that in a Uni project, maybe 16:29:31 ehehe :) 16:30:21 "Damn uni." 16:30:31 I wish I were at university again. 16:31:06 ASau: Ya I am thankful I have the opportunity, it's great 16:31:18 ASau: Can you not go back? 16:31:38 schmx: almost no way. 16:31:44 Aw :( 16:31:54 No any reasonable way at the very least. 16:32:22 I'm thinking of going back for a couple of years. 16:32:39 Schmx: postgrad level? 16:32:57 Guthur: I don't think we have the same levels. So I'm not sure what that means :) 16:33:30 well there is bachelors(degree) then anything after that is considered post grad 16:33:32 I think this means doctorant. 16:33:37 Masters or Doctorate 16:33:39 Hmm.. 16:33:44 Hm. 16:33:55 Oh I think maybe we are starting to have things called bachelors and masters now thanks to the bologna process. 16:34:05 Do you count pre-master as "post-graduate"? 16:34:22 ASau actually yes probably 16:34:41 that is most like the equivalent of a Post Graduate Diploma 16:34:44 Anyway, no. That's not my plan. I was thinking of.. hmm.. I need to google up what that thing is called in english. 16:35:03 I am doing that now then will make it a Masters by doing a thesis during the summer semester 16:35:28 schmx: you're going either write master thesis or doctor thesis. 16:35:47 Maybe 1% of uni stuff here leads to a bachelor or masters degree. We mostly still have the old system. 16:35:47 Or equivalent. 16:35:57 ASau: oh gosh no. :) 16:36:19 do you mean you're going to be TA? 16:36:27 What's that? 16:36:29 Lecturer? 16:36:32 Could be the equivalent of a Higher National Diploma or Associate Bachelors 16:36:43 * schmx is googling to find something. 16:37:21 We have basically, Diploma or Doctor equivalents. 16:37:32 Anything else isn't high school. 16:37:57 (Actually, there're two doctor levels.) 16:38:18 ya I was planning to study ThisThingIDunnoTheNameOfInEnglish for 3 years so I can get a licens to practice that there thing. 16:38:31 I think to get a masters degree in that I need 2 more years after that. 16:39:08 physical therapy perhaps. 16:39:27 Oh, medical degrees are damn quite another thing. 16:39:48 I really have no idea :) 16:39:49 They have their own ones here. 16:40:05 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 16:40:35 ASau: You in the States? 16:40:45 There was some EU thing a while back that was to make all higher education throughout the union to be on the same system. But maybe it did not work out so well. 16:40:54 or is implemented god awfully slow. 16:41:30 Something like "you can help doctor," "you know how to be(come) a doctor but you're not allowed to cure yourself," "you can be doctor." 16:42:04 Guthur: in which "States"? 16:42:17 physiotherapy must be it. I need my 3 years at uni to get my licens. Then I can study more if I'm interested in the "academic" parts of it, obviously. 16:42:25 "these united states" (: 16:42:35 ASau, Which other one's is there? 16:42:59 Does Russia have states 16:43:06 It is a federation 16:43:16 member states of the european union, eh? 16:43:40 We have CIS. 16:43:48 Suppose, but we don't really refer to are selves as belonging to states 16:43:53 Maybe it is more problematic to "go back" to uni in the USoA. IIRC you have to pay money to go to uni there. 16:44:09 I don't come from the State of UK 16:44:15 Guthur: Seems to me most people are obsessed with nationstates atleast :)' 16:46:18 schmx: Ya pretty true 16:47:16 It would be nice if it all just went away 16:48:01 well bedtime anyway :) 16:48:03 happy forth! 16:48:12 Night night schmx 16:52:49 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 17:35:19 --- quit: Deformative (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17:57:37 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18:10:22 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 19:34:47 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19:46:49 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 19:59:34 --- join: Deformative (~joe@c-76-112-68-135.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:07:34 --- quit: tgunr (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21:10:27 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:22:19 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 21:53:11 --- quit: Guthur (Quit: Computer says no) 22:23:52 --- join: madwork_ (~madgarden@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 22:27:25 --- quit: madwork (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 23:17:10 --- quit: segher (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 23:19:42 --- quit: proteusguy (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 23:32:22 --- join: proteusguy (~proteusgu@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.04.03