00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.02.11 00:02:26 --- join: probonono (~User@unaffiliated/probonono) joined #forth 00:03:30 --- join: mre (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 00:09:57 --- join: gogonkt (~info@218.13.55.67) joined #forth 00:11:24 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@CPE001d7e527f89-CM00159a65a870.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 00:28:13 --- quit: alex4nder (Quit: sleep) 00:35:59 --- part: TR2N` left #forth 00:41:44 --- quit: addled_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00:45:09 --- join: mre_ (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 00:47:48 --- quit: mre (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01:50:59 --- join: foxes (~flash@221.220.43.82) joined #forth 03:35:12 --- join: GeDaMo (~gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 03:42:10 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 03:58:25 --- join: flash (~flash@222.131.167.134) joined #forth 03:58:53 --- quit: foxes (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04:04:44 --- quit: flash (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04:22:02 --- join: flash (~flash@61.149.172.1) joined #forth 04:45:13 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 04:48:53 --- quit: GeDaMo (Quit: Now I lay me down to sleep; Try to count electric sheep) 06:17:30 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 07:16:24 --- quit: gogonkt (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 07:17:57 --- join: gogonkt (~info@218.13.45.35) joined #forth 07:36:40 --- join: xjrn (~jim@astound-69-42-10-25.ca.astound.net) joined #forth 07:42:46 --- quit: ASau` (Quit: off) 07:43:28 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cable.casema.nl) joined #forth 07:47:15 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 08:18:39 --- join: GeDaMo (~gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 08:31:37 --- join: madwork (~madgarden@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 08:43:13 --- join: nfoxTc (~nfoxTc@72-58-111-219.pools.spcsdns.net) joined #forth 08:57:47 --- quit: nfoxTc (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09:02:18 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 09:02:36 --- join: TR2N (email@89-180-175-58.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 09:17:13 --- join: erider (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 10:04:39 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 10:19:27 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 10:23:37 --- join: Quartus` (~Quartus`@74.198.8.59) joined #forth 10:24:00 --- quit: TR2N (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10:29:49 --- join: TR2N` (email@89-180-220-15.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 10:30:12 --- quit: Quartus` (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 10:31:15 --- nick: TR2N` -> TR2N 10:32:13 --- join: Quartus` (~Quartus`@74.198.8.59) joined #forth 10:34:09 --- join: Maki (~Maki@dynamic-78-30-167-37.adsl.eunet.rs) joined #forth 11:04:45 --- quit: Quartus` (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11:06:30 --- join: alex4nder (~alexander@wsip-72-215-164-129.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #forth 11:06:32 yoh 11:06:55 Evenign. 11:07:38 hey ASau 11:07:42 how goes the pforth hacking? 11:10:04 Hi 11:10:19 alex4nder: I had no time for it today. 11:10:21 Hey maki 11:10:38 alex4nder: Hello. 11:10:49 ASau: Good evening. 11:10:56 Dobro vece. 11:11:06 Dobro vece :) 11:11:49 alex4nder: Your project is going well I presume? 11:12:29 Any new bugs? 11:12:36 Maki: it's good, I've stalled a bit, working on some work for a couple clients. 11:12:56 I got called yesterday, because a contractor working on a project for a friend of mine got admitted to an insane asylum. 11:13:15 and they needed an engineer to be on a conference call in 15 minutes 11:16:28 My only question was if it was the project that made the guy lose his mind. 11:17:39 What kind of project that might be? 11:17:59 reverse engineering the HP04 inkjet cartridge 11:18:27 and programming this crazy FPGA/universal-printer board to control the catridge. 11:20:23 That seems as a nice project to me. Except if there is short dedline. 11:20:54 it's about a year late already. 11:21:06 which I don't really understand. 11:21:30 I think the engineers that have been working on it have been doing the reverse engineering wrong. 11:24:18 Are these cartriges obsoleted? Is that the reason for reverse engineering? 11:25:50 no, it's just an issue of wanting to be able to test them before giving them back to customers. 11:25:58 after they've been remanufactured. 11:28:07 It makes sense. 11:29:07 the real insanity, is that the actual software that talks to these cartridges, is written ontop of a soft core inside an FPGA 11:29:32 and the width of the wave forms written to the printer cartridges is dictated by the clock frequency of the soft core, and the length of the soft core's instructions. 11:29:42 so they're building delays by stuffing loops with noops. 11:29:58 and theres an insane amount of loop unrolling that's been done. 11:31:17 oh! 11:32:14 --- join: scj (syljo361@boneym.mtveurope.org) joined #forth 11:32:15 They should make separate hardware as a periferal to softcore to do that function! 11:32:24 yup, that was my recommendation. 11:33:18 Maybe they don't understand hardware that well or don't have tools... 11:36:01 it was a hardware guy that designed this solution. 11:36:15 I think he just sucks at his craft. 11:46:52 --- join: Zarutian (~zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 12:23:35 --- join: TR2N` (~email@89.180.227.253) joined #forth 12:25:41 --- quit: TR2N (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12:30:31 lol 12:30:44 no he is just too layz. fsckit let the software jerks fix it 12:30:53 *snicker* 12:33:08 the problem is, he wrote the software too. 12:33:14 it just all around sucks. 12:52:11 --- join: kar8nga (~kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 12:52:49 --- join: skas (~skas@eth488.act.adsl.internode.on.net) joined #forth 12:54:09 --- join: alex4nde1 (~alexander@72-62-132-111.pools.spcsdns.net) joined #forth 12:55:12 --- nick: alex4nde1 -> al3xander 12:55:33 --- quit: alex4nder (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13:42:16 --- quit: Maki (Quit: Leaving) 13:54:48 --- quit: al3xander (Quit: leaving) 14:19:14 --- quit: qFox (Quit: Time for cookies!) 14:36:39 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote host closed the connection) 14:49:24 --- join: mre (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 14:49:44 --- quit: mre_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 15:22:08 --- quit: mre (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15:23:09 --- quit: gogonkt (*.net *.split) 15:23:09 --- quit: madgarden (*.net *.split) 15:24:46 --- join: madgarden (~madgarden@CPE001d7e527f89-CM00159a65a870.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:26:19 --- join: gogonkt (~info@218.13.45.35) joined #forth 15:28:08 --- nick: TR2N` -> TR2N 15:32:28 --- quit: GeDaMo (Quit: Now I lay me down to sleep; Try to count electric sheep) 15:36:20 --- join: mre (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 16:11:20 --- join: Al2O3 (~Al2O3@c-75-70-11-191.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:16:28 --- quit: skas (Quit: Leaving) 16:16:35 --- join: skas (~skas@eth488.act.adsl.internode.on.net) joined #forth 16:17:06 --- quit: xjrn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16:38:54 --- join: Raystm2 (rastm2@c-24-8-232-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:39:49 --- part: Raystm2 left #forth 16:54:54 --- join: Guthur (~Michael@host81-132-10-255.range81-132.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 17:14:57 --- join: nighty__ (~nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 19:15:25 --- nick: Snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy_1611 20:03:05 --- join: |dinya_| (~Denis@94.51.195.219) joined #forth 20:06:27 --- quit: dinya_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20:11:56 --- quit: erider (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20:32:34 --- join: xjrn (~jim@astound-69-42-10-25.ca.astound.net) joined #forth 20:46:05 --- quit: Guthur (Quit: Computer says no) 20:53:51 --- quit: segher (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 21:20:13 --- quit: xjrn (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21:21:32 --- join: mre_ (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 21:23:00 --- quit: mre (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 21:25:43 --- join: mre (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 21:25:44 --- quit: mre_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21:31:56 --- quit: crc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21:52:12 --- quit: mre (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21:58:02 --- join: mre (~Agent@203.109.165.110) joined #forth 22:01:24 --- quit: skas (Quit: Leaving) 22:35:05 --- join: TR2N` (email@89.180.131.65) joined #forth 22:36:29 --- quit: TR2N (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22:38:27 --- join: alex4nder (~alexander@dsl093-145-168.sba1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #forth 22:38:27 hey 23:24:08 --- part: pgas left #forth 23:24:24 --- quit: ASau (Remote host closed the connection) 23:25:08 --- join: ASau (~user@83.69.227.32) joined #forth 23:31:44 --- join: qFox (~C00K13S@5356B263.cable.casema.nl) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.02.11