00:00:00 --- log: started forth/10.01.11 00:01:06 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 00:12:43 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 00:22:04 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x708D5A0C) joined #forth 00:39:18 --- join: ASau (n=user@77.246.231.66) joined #forth 02:55:43 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 02:56:27 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x708D5A0C) joined #forth 03:08:05 --- join: sunwukong (n=vukung@business-80-99-161-225.business.broadband.hu) joined #forth 04:22:13 --- join: segher (n=segher@84-105-60-153.cable.quicknet.nl) joined #forth 04:40:23 --- quit: aguaithegeek (Remote closed the connection) 04:48:27 --- quit: addled ("Ex-Chat") 05:12:09 --- quit: dandersen (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:30:34 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 05:32:02 --- join: lawlessmcnutty (n=lawlessm@85.189.31.174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk) joined #forth 05:33:04 --- join: batrachian (n=User@ppp103-111.static.internode.on.net) joined #forth 05:46:28 --- quit: luptenschteiner (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:12:58 --- join: dandersen (n=dkcl@metabug/dandersen) joined #forth 07:09:16 --- join: Zarutian (n=zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 07:24:19 --- join: proteusguy_ (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 07:29:15 --- quit: sunwukong ("bye") 07:30:11 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:50:19 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 08:01:10 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pops@adsl-99-150-132-96.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 08:12:31 What is the most used interpreters in Forth? 08:33:35 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 09:21:15 --- quit: proteusguy_ (Client Quit) 09:21:31 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 09:29:42 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 09:30:51 the most used? the inner interpreter, of course! 09:52:06 heh 09:53:34 ;-) 09:54:11 --- join: pgas (n=user@pdpc/supporter/active/pgas) joined #forth 10:18:09 --- join: TR2N (i=email@89-180-173-174.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 10:23:50 --- quit: lawlessmcnutty (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:24:13 --- join: lawlessmcnutty (n=lawlessm@85.189.31.174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk) joined #forth 10:27:22 --- join: ASau` (n=user@83.69.227.32) joined #forth 10:36:32 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@dynamic-109-121-73-52.adsl.eunet.rs) joined #forth 10:36:54 --- join: alex4nder (n=alexande@wsip-72-215-164-129.sb.sd.cox.net) joined #forth 10:36:56 hey 11:07:28 --- join: kik_ (n=kik@7.pool85-49-126.dynamic.orange.es) joined #forth 11:07:58 kik_: hey 11:08:17 Good evening. 11:08:25 good evening 11:09:40 what're you guys up to? 11:18:28 Good evening alex4nder. 11:19:51 --- part: kik_ left #forth 11:24:27 --- join: crcx (i=d8012b82@gateway/web/freenode/x-itvumfpvecdjnasq) joined #forth 11:26:34 Maki: hey Maki 11:26:41 how's it going? 11:27:05 Very well. Thanks. You? 11:28:37 --- join: neceve (n=neceve@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 11:28:49 Things are good. 11:29:13 Things are bad. 11:29:13 I've almost written enough code for this SAM7A3 to be enumerated as a USB device. 11:29:17 Though they could be even worse. 11:30:10 ASau`: way to kill the mood. ;) 11:31:07 I'm trying to get to the point where I can ditch the serial interface for the USB. 11:31:37 I have a link to smth like crash course in USB. 11:31:44 Need one? 11:32:03 ASau`: I'm always interested. I almost have this working. 11:32:27 I've slogged through the USB 2.0 spec, the SAM7A3's USB interface, and two reference implementations. 11:32:41 and I think I distilled the bare minimum 11:33:00 Probably this one: http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/usbdi10.pdf 11:33:16 a control endpoint with support for getting descriptors/setting addresses/configurations, and two bulk endpoints. 11:33:26 Probably not, and I have it elsewhere. 11:33:52 I'm using ft245. Drivers are free and in two flavors: Direct and VCP. 11:34:25 And my processor doesn't have USB port. 11:35:02 yah 11:35:09 I think that MPE uses the same chip. 11:35:21 I'm trying to use the SAM7A3's native support, since it has 'everything' built in (e.g. transceiver) 11:35:39 in the end I think i'm only going to support CDC ACM anyway 11:36:06 but for now I can just tell linux's usb serial to bind to two generic endpoints. 11:36:42 what actually sucks is the $2000 it costs to buy a vendor ID for two years. 11:36:44 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (i=Snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-221-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:38:14 Is that neded with external chip like ft245? 11:38:31 I don't think so, you can just use the chip maker's ID. 11:41:22 Correct, I just check it on their web site. 11:41:57 for the first set of prototypes, I'll probably just lie and use some other CDC ACM device's PID/VID. 11:42:24 prudent 11:50:39 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 11:52:18 Maki: I found two new bugs in the compiler under Linux 11:52:47 the most annoying is that trying to connect to an umbilical forth just crashes with a segfault 11:53:08 ah.. 11:53:28 I haven't mailed Stephen yet, but it's reproducible. 11:54:02 Any response from him about cdata start address? 11:54:27 no, I think he just added it to the 'list' 11:54:48 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 11:56:37 Which file do you use for umbilical connection? I just want to check if I have those. 11:57:29 include %CommonDir%/MESSAGES \ Umbilical messages 11:57:29 include %CpuDir%/MinARM \ main code defs. 11:57:29 include %CommonDir%/UFkernel \ Forth high level kernel 11:58:17 :( 11:58:53 They added a lot from v6.2 12:01:03 --- quit: dandersen ("leaving") 12:13:14 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x708D5A0C) joined #forth 12:24:34 bbl. 12:44:03 --- quit: alex4nder (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:44:04 --- quit: pgas ("/quit") 13:05:23 --- quit: xpololz ("Leaving") 13:21:25 --- nick: lawlessmcnutty -> maht 13:25:36 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 13:29:31 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 13:37:54 --- join: JFLF (n=JF@150.203.5.213) joined #forth 13:49:27 --- join: ncv_ (n=neceve@79.114.28.24) joined #forth 13:53:59 --- quit: crcx ("Page closed") 13:56:36 --- join: alex4nder (n=alexande@dsl093-145-168.sba1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #forth 13:56:49 hey 14:01:42 hey 14:03:50 how's it? 14:06:05 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:07:00 Good thanks, and you? 14:07:13 good. 14:08:27 --- quit: cataska (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:09:50 --- join: cataska (n=cataska@210.64.6.233) joined #forth 14:10:33 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 14:16:54 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:17:16 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 14:26:33 --- quit: TR2N (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:01:45 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 15:34:32 --- join: TR2N (i=email@89.180.218.57) joined #forth 15:52:58 --- nick: ncv_ -> neceve 16:46:54 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 17:27:38 --- quit: neceve ("KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090520, built on: 2009/06/08 23:52:48 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/") 17:42:38 hey 17:54:36 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:16:32 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 18:23:32 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:51:23 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 18:59:03 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:21:33 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 19:27:23 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 21:05:30 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:12:02 --- nick: batrachian -> probonono 21:12:51 --- quit: ASau (Remote closed the connection) 21:13:16 --- join: ASau (n=user@77.246.231.66) joined #forth 21:36:37 --- join: forther (i=62d2faca@gateway/web/freenode/x-uttgcjywbxfdsqox) joined #forth 21:37:40 --- quit: forther (Client Quit) 21:38:22 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:10:59 --- quit: foxes (Remote closed the connection) 22:14:16 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 22:25:41 --- part: TR2N left #forth 22:34:02 --- nick: ASau` -> ASau`` 22:38:20 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:45:22 --- quit: segher ("This computer has gone to sleep") 23:04:32 --- quit: probonono (Remote closed the connection) 23:10:26 --- join: foxes (i=flash@221.220.46.126) joined #forth 23:15:47 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 23:31:19 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:31:41 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 23:36:29 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x708D5A0C) joined #forth 23:43:40 --- quit: ASau`` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:55:05 --- quit: JFLF ("Leaving") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/10.01.11