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House full of happy kids here. :-) 09:44:02 It's too early for christmas. 09:44:06 :p 09:44:12 Sorry - what time is it there? 09:44:27 Fri Dec 25 20:43:54 MSK 2009 09:44:37 How is that too early? 09:44:37 ~~~~~~~ 09:44:43 It's December! 09:45:03 When do you celebrate Christmas there? 09:45:06 You have to wait for two weeks. 09:45:09 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pops@adsl-99-69-199-131.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 09:45:18 "We" don't, they do. 09:45:38 Ok; I see. 09:45:39 We have days off. 09:47:08 Well, for those of you that remember me talking about this my 9 year old loves the PIC experiment kit. :-) 09:47:57 Merry Christmas 09:48:24 Oh, those heretics. :D 09:48:27 In Norway Christmas was celebrated 24 dec. :P 09:48:38 Which was yesterday. 09:48:46 Got to go visit the in-laws. You guys take care. 09:50:01 :) 09:50:49 BTW, why is it celebrated 24. dec there? 09:51:19 Just to piss off another catholic heretics? 09:53:57 probably :D 09:56:24 I'm slowly progressing through my Lisp in Forth. :) 10:01:01 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:01:36 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:08:05 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x708D5A0C) joined #forth 10:17:43 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:18:06 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:30:38 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:31:06 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:39:27 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 10:40:45 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:41:06 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:49:37 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:50:06 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:50:43 If i rewrite swap like this 10:50:54 : swap { a b -- b a } 10:50:56 b a ; 10:51:03 it does exactly the same as the swap word 10:51:21 but if i call it for example test 10:51:24 it doesn't work 10:51:27 why? 10:51:38 Which Forth? 10:51:38 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:51:45 GeDaMo: assume gforth 10:52:07 what do you mean by "doesn't work"? 10:52:08 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:52:12 what do you mean by "doesn't work"? 10:52:15 xpololz: It works fine on my gforth. 10:52:44 works here too. 10:53:41 "undefined word" 10:53:49 Undefined which word? 10:53:54 xpololz: what forth? 10:54:16 gforth 10:54:17 crc: do you know may other forths with "{" locals and comment? 10:54:23 "many" 10:54:36 ASau: I only use a few forths 10:54:56 now i wrote it as a script 10:54:57 and I don't use locals in any of them 10:55:27 if i write the definition in the interpreter then "b" and "a" is undefined 10:55:32 which is local variables? 10:55:53 Paste full typescript. 10:55:53 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:56:07 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 10:56:13 meh.. disconnects :s 10:56:18 in your example, a and b are locals 10:56:33 xpololz: Paste full typescript. 10:56:43 It works in Gfotrh and pForth. 10:57:01 I don't remember where those locals in PFE are. 10:57:30 include compat/anslocal.fs : test { n1 n2 -- n2 n1 } b a ; 10:57:33 thats it.. 10:57:43 works if i use "swap" instead of "test" 10:58:01 Don't "include", those are default locals there. 10:58:20 Ah. 10:58:20 no. 10:58:29 xpololz: duh 10:58:32 You create "n1" and "n2" 10:58:38 you're naming your locals n1 and n2, not a and b 10:58:40 You don't create neither "a" nor "b". 10:59:15 General advice for gforth (for advanced users): 10:59:29 don't include stuff unless you know exactly what you're doing. 10:59:40 %] 10:59:43 meh :( 10:59:58 : test { a b -- b a } b a ; ok 10:59:58 1 2 3 ..s [3:.. 1 2 3 :0x54FF4] ok 10:59:58 test ..s [3:.. 1 3 2 :0x54FF4] ok 11:00:59 Sorry, i'm an idiot! 11:01:17 well, yes.. But you can outgrow it ;-) 11:01:22 Eh. A lot of bugs are like that. :) 11:01:27 Haha, i hope so! 11:01:35 i just read some example 11:01:46 Next time just paste what you're doing that isn't working, rather than trying to describe it. 11:01:49 and when i rewrote it, then used n1 n2 instead for some reason... 11:01:56 tathi: if only _that_ were true... 11:01:58 * ASau sighs. 11:02:18 Anyways, thanks for help guys :D 11:02:21 with almost everything you read About Forth? Take 2 aspirin and a grain of salt - because it might change between print and program, or be a different imp, etc. 11:02:31 let's forget i ever asked! 11:02:36 ASau: for beginners, that is. :) 11:03:05 tathi: btw, do you know who's that MarkWills? 11:03:17 tathi: still useful for them to describe what they believe is happening, too - THAT can be amusing as hell ;-) 11:04:06 ASau: some guy who picked up Jonesforth and ported it to (I think) some TI processor? You follow c.l.f., you know as much as I do. 11:04:31 I'm pretty sure he has only known about Forth for a few months... 11:05:16 He always sounds like hiped teen. 11:05:52 And... I don't follow clf close enough recent months. 11:06:00 That's about usual for Forthers, isn't it? :) 11:06:17 It is hard to tell. 11:06:34 "Usually" Forthers are old farts. 11:06:58 True 11:06:59 Recalling about days of King Haled International Airport. 11:07:10 Recollecting days... 11:07:19 mrmrmr 11:07:20 English. 11:09:45 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:10:07 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 11:19:16 schme: don't feed troll. 11:19:27 ASau: What? 11:19:36 schme: don't feed gavino 11:19:46 Who the heck is gavino? 11:19:54 azatoth99 11:20:17 I was not aware azatoth99 was trolling. 11:20:26 I saw mmropgrgmr and lisp. 11:20:35 Sure, that's his way. 11:20:56 He keeps repeating the same questions for years. 11:21:11 Oh ok. 11:21:28 * schme is now to freenode (: 11:21:31 new 11:22:00 gavino isn't freenode phenomenon. 11:22:10 It is USENET phenomenon at the first place. 11:22:10 I have never heard of any gavino. 11:22:24 STFW? 11:22:28 What? 11:24:51 http://coding.derkeiler.com/Archive/Lisp/comp.lang.lisp/2009-12/msg00495.html 11:27:31 From logs of this channel: 11:27:35 that is gavino. He's a mindless infantile troll. Save your keystrokes. 11:31:22 Sure ain't no gavino in my scrollback. 11:31:40 --- join: Judofyr (n=Judofyr@cC694BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 11:38:32 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 11:39:01 Nah, he has been banned from here for a while. 11:39:01 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:39:36 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 11:40:01 tathi: #netbsd is more tolerant 11:40:33 Ever-repeated questions are annoying though. 11:43:43 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:44:07 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 11:53:20 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:53:38 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 12:04:19 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:04:35 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 12:17:55 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 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Dobro vece 13:25:46 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:26:06 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 13:26:13 Dobro vece. 13:26:24 Good evening :) 13:38:11 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:38:59 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 13:47:19 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:47:35 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 14:01:15 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:01:35 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 14:04:14 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:04:35 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) joined #forth 14:16:40 --- quit: pgas ("/quit") 14:25:07 --- quit: xpololz (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:25:35 --- join: xpololz (n=xpololz@90.80-203-124.nextgentel.com) 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