00:00:00 --- log: started forth/09.12.01 00:36:08 --- part: ment left #forth 00:57:14 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 00:57:18 --- quit: GeDaMo (Remote closed the connection) 01:19:58 --- join: dinya_ (n=Denis@94.50.8.67) joined #forth 01:23:07 --- quit: |dinya_| (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:40:45 --- quit: Al2O3 (Remote closed the connection) 02:18:20 --- quit: ASau ("reboot") 02:32:14 --- join: proteusguy_ (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 02:34:31 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:50:19 --- join: ASau (n=user@host156-230-msk.microtest.ru) joined #forth 02:56:50 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (i=Snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-213-205.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 03:02:09 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:06:15 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 03:06:54 KipIngram: That there with introducing your 9 year old to forth on a PIC.. makes me almost wish I was 9 again :) Very good plan! I think it will be rewarding for you both (: 03:17:32 --- join: ASau (n=user@host156-230-msk.microtest.ru) joined #forth 03:19:40 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 03:25:46 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:50:39 --- nick: schme -> schmx 03:55:17 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:10:10 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 04:25:58 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 05:06:51 KipIngram: What particular PIC & forth system are you going to do that with? I've been interested in getting something like that. 05:09:04 --- quit: gogonkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:14:01 --- join: gogonkt (n=info@113.69.187.80) joined #forth 05:32:52 --- quit: gogonkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:38:21 --- join: gogonkt (n=info@113.69.187.80) joined #forth 06:33:04 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 07:01:26 --- join: dinya (i=Denis@94.180.48.71) joined #forth 07:05:49 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:21:29 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pops@adsl-99-150-133-146.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 07:35:07 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-89-110.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 08:23:57 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 08:52:19 --- join: Judofyr (n=Judofyr@c0E9CBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 08:54:07 --- quit: Judofyr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:54:30 --- join: Judofyr (n=Judofyr@c0E9CBF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 09:16:18 --- join: ASau` (n=user@83.69.227.32) joined #forth 09:39:24 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 09:40:35 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@74.198.8.58) joined #forth 09:42:49 --- join: qFox (n=C00K13S@5356B263.cable.casema.nl) joined #forth 09:43:51 --- join: crcx (i=d8012b82@gateway/web/freenode/x-wjimhlgpofipltgz) joined #forth 10:34:05 --- join: DrunkTomato (n=DEDULO@ext-gw.wellcom.tomsk.ru) joined #forth 11:21:19 --- quit: crcx ("Page closed") 11:21:56 --- join: forther (i=cf2f2264@gateway/web/freenode/x-swgnalwxuuxbnsej) joined #forth 11:21:59 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@dynamic-78-30-155-247.adsl.eunet.rs) joined #forth 11:42:04 zbrown: it's a PIC18F2410. I haven't identified a Forth yet - I just assume that I'll find one or else write one. 11:42:57 --- quit: PoppaVic (Client Quit) 11:43:17 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pops@adsl-99-150-133-146.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 11:43:24 zbrown: Check www.chaneyelectronics.com, find part # C6949. That's a 17-in-1 microcontroller education kit. 11:43:53 zbrown: We're starting there, and then I'll help her do things that go beyond the suppied experiments. 11:47:05 zbrown: Before we can get to "Forthing" we'll have to hook up a keyboard to the thing some way. If it has a UART we may just use the PC, but if not then I'll work up a direct connection somehow. 11:48:03 zbrown: I think my daughter would see the impact of Forth better if the PC was out of the picture entirely. 11:55:38 http://hackaday.com/2009/11/23/stm8s-discovery-microcontrollers-reach-a-new-low/ 11:56:43 KipIngram: Forth for 18F -> http://flashforth.sourceforge.net/ 11:59:48 how old she is? 12:02:15 Maki: thanks! 12:02:18 forther: 9 12:02:34 NP :) 12:02:37 --- quit: DrunkTomato () 12:02:57 Not ANS AFAIK but works well. 12:03:32 That's ok - she'll get the idea. 12:05:00 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (i=Snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-218-225.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 12:09:52 hey kip :) 12:10:10 hey, how goes? 12:10:32 applied for a job yesterday and got a reply from a recruitor. im not holding my breath but at least i got a reply lol 12:10:51 he will submit my resume but theres probably going to be 284652984 other resumes on the guys desk with it 12:11:01 Cool. Good luck. 12:11:07 ya i need it lol 12:11:25 You gave him a pretty-printed resume? 12:11:51 In a stack like that it needs to "look good" on first glance. 12:12:32 I used to work at a university and we wrote a lot of grant proposals. We hired a guy who'd worked at the Pentagon as a reviewer of such proposals. 12:13:13 He told us that they send you into a room and there's a four-foot tall stack of proposals. First thing you do is look at each one for 5-10 seconds and either put it on a short stack to be reviewed more carefully or throw it away. 12:13:21 --- quit: dinya (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:13:54 That cut's based entirely on riffling through the pages and picking the ones that have illustrations, tables, and so forth that look visually appealing, nice formating, etc. etc. 12:14:03 Content doesn't matter until later. 12:14:28 KipIngram: so much for education.. And learning to Write. 12:17:04 That's true. I don't really blame the guy in the trenches, though; they give him way more proposals than he has time to read so he has to do something to cull it. 12:18:32 Of course, the things had abstacts / executive summaries; you'd think trying to read just those from as many of the submissions as possible would be a good idea too. At least that would give some idea of what the content was. 12:38:11 KipIngram: it ends up being subjective & opinion. That's all. 13:33:22 --- quit: Judofyr (Remote closed the connection) 13:50:44 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 13:51:02 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=Snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-127-091.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 13:52:19 --- join: sunwukong (n=vukung@catv-80-98-131-133.catv.broadband.hu) joined #forth 14:08:28 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:15:46 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 14:16:19 --- quit: forther ("Page closed") 14:38:47 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 14:48:34 --- quit: mathrick (Remote closed the connection) 14:50:20 --- join: mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 14:53:47 --- quit: sunwukong ("bye") 14:55:58 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 15:19:45 --- quit: Zarutian () 15:21:53 KipIngram: thanks, very cool :) 15:47:50 --- join: Zarutian (n=zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 16:08:16 --- quit: yiyus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:13:03 --- join: yiyus (i=12427124@je.je.je) joined #forth 17:13:00 --- join: docl (n=luke@97-120-119-247.ptld.qwest.net) joined #forth 17:48:08 --- quit: PoppaVic (Client Quit) 17:54:20 --- join: alex4nder (n=user@dsl093-145-168.sba1.dsl.speakeasy.net) joined #forth 17:54:26 hey 17:55:42 hi alex4nder 17:57:19 how's it going? 17:57:31 pretty good 17:58:05 cool 17:59:05 hey.. I joined because I'm bootstrapping an at91sam7a3-ek dev board, and I'm about to write a Forth for it 17:59:21 I thought I'd check in and ask around if anyone has been messing with these chips, before I bring a system up from scratch. 18:02:35 http://www.offete.com/SAM7X.html for an eforth based system for the AT91SAM7 processor 18:06:24 ah, thanks. 18:07:27 that music is amazing. ;) 18:15:06 I guess I could port hforth. 18:15:57 .. but the macros all look like armasm. 18:20:27 --- join: Vanax (n=GMT@adsl-151.79.107.39.tellas.gr) joined #forth 18:41:34 just got my board to say 'ok', and echo back characters over the debug port. 18:59:24 --- quit: Vanax (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:02:50 cool 19:07:49 docl: commentary on your last gist: http://gist.github.com/246894 19:21:45 --- join: proteusguy__ (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 19:22:16 --- quit: proteusguy_ (Connection timed out) 19:46:47 --- join: DrunkTomato (n=DEDULO@ext-gw.wellcom.tomsk.ru) joined #forth 20:18:10 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pops@adsl-99-150-133-146.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 20:28:43 --- join: proteusguy_ (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 20:28:50 --- quit: saper (Remote closed the connection) 20:28:58 --- quit: proteusguy__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:40:01 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (i=Snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-214-163.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 21:24:40 --- join: proteusguy__ (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 21:26:24 --- quit: proteusguy_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:34:44 --- quit: DrunkTomato () 21:37:47 --- join: DrunkTomato (n=DEDULO@ext-gw.wellcom.tomsk.ru) joined #forth 21:52:43 --- quit: alex4nder ("bbl") 22:10:25 --- quit: proteusguy__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 22:14:43 crc: like the gist commentary. 22:23:16 --- join: proteusguy__ (n=proteusg@zeppelin.proteus-tech.com) joined #forth 23:02:44 --- quit: ASau` ("off") 23:19:40 --- quit: segher ("This computer has gone to sleep") 23:32:07 --- quit: docl ("Lost terminal") 23:56:59 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/09.12.01