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11:02:55 oh yeah. 11:03:06 1.2 will think you wanting to do fixed point :) 11:03:23 lowki: 1.2e0 f. 11:03:39 is a seperate stack 11:03:59 how do i view it? 11:04:03 f.s 11:04:27 cool thanks :) 11:04:33 lowki: info gforth and / floating point 11:05:00 oh maybe twice or you hit the tutorial 11:06:13 schme: eh, i dono, it's really confusing 11:06:49 lowki: section 5.5.6 of the manual 11:07:11 "You should not use them unless you know what you are doing or you don't care that the results you get are totally bogus" 11:12:26 well the stuff they linked to, made it seem like this was a problem with all floating point calculations on computers 11:13:20 lowki: there is. 11:13:35 I'm just designing a boat 11:13:54 A boat in forth? That's cool :) 11:14:18 The floating point problem is around everywhere floating point is used on computers. As long as one is aware of it it is not such a big issue. 11:14:24 I doubt your boat will sink because of it. 11:15:24 agreed 11:16:15 What kind of boat? 11:21:33 er, well currently a dinghy 11:21:44 but eventually a trimaran ocean cruiser 11:21:49 yikes 11:21:51 in forth eh? 11:21:59 well untill i get a calculator 11:22:41 :) 11:25:23 make sure get a rpn calculator (: 11:26:15 rpn? 11:26:22 reverse polish notation 11:26:41 ya i wish 11:26:56 :) 11:27:08 hella annoying going from forth as calc to "normal" calc (: 11:27:40 well I'll get something with at least variable roots, probably a Sharp design 11:28:30 if it had variable basses that would be great to 11:28:49 americans have the strangest measurement bases 11:28:53 yes. 11:29:03 because not using 10 as base makes life easie 11:29:05 r 11:29:09 oh wait, it does not (: 11:30:17 inches are base 12, fractions base 16, feet unrelated to yards or miles 11:31:00 *shrugs* 11:31:09 i do all my calculations in cm 11:31:14 :) 11:31:16 I'm a mm man. 11:31:22 or um. 11:31:29 I guess for a both cm is better :) 11:31:32 boat 11:32:00 ya, I do add the mm for precision usually 11:34:33 for carvel construction a few mm difference could be a leak 11:36:01 Sounds bad. 11:36:06 I know jack about boat construction :) 11:39:03 --- join: gnomon_ (n=gnomon@CPE001d60dffa5c-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 11:39:51 --- quit: Judofyr (Remote closed the connection) 11:43:13 --- quit: gnomon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:03:59 --- join: Judofyr (n=Judofyr@cC694BF51.dhcp.bluecom.no) joined #forth 12:06:33 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:09:26 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 12:13:11 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@jol13-1-82-66-176-74.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 12:34:41 --- nick: gnomon_ -> gnomon 12:45:13 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@dynamic-78-30-139-176.adsl.eunet.rs) joined #forth 12:50:17 --- quit: chturne (Remote closed the connection) 13:09:05 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 13:16:27 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 13:42:16 --- quit: DrunkTomato () 13:49:24 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@h54.248.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined #forth 14:02:54 --- quit: Judofyr (Remote closed the connection) 14:03:14 --- join: arke (i=5845baea@gateway/web/freenode/x-tsetgekuiasxbduk) joined #forth 14:04:31 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 14:06:17 Hi. Long time no talk. 14:20:49 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 14:50:10 --- join: tathi (n=josh@dsl-216-227-91-166.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 14:50:38 hi all 15:07:47 Hi. 15:13:24 I had a possibly silly idea. A Forth that simulates running on an architecture with many small cores but a common chunk of memory. Certain colon definitions would be a transaction, which is run and re-run as needed. 15:14:44 Something that would be useful but haven't figured out yet how it could be done in a nice way in forth is marking a thread as running concurrent. This need extra consideration, of course, since it can't use the PSP (or rather, each word that is called must return it to its initial state exactly) 15:15:46 ... I don't really understand what I've written myself. :) 15:16:02 suppose there's a colon definition that does three unrelated things 15:16:15 : foo task1 task2 task3 ; 15:17:26 in classical forth, this is executed sequentially, but it might be advantageous to trigger these asynchronously 15:17:39 if you can be sure that these 3 task words do nothing to the PSP, one could do something like 15:18:04 : foo async: task1 async: task2 async: task3 3 waitasync ; 15:18:31 where async: pushes a ticket on the stack, and waitasync takes those 3 tickets and waits until they've completed until returning 15:18:52 waitasync is probably not a good name, but you see what I mean, I hope :) 15:18:56 Any thoughts on this? 15:20:24 async historically hard implement 15:21:45 problem with run away processesses and error checking 15:24:34 Indeed. 15:25:51 though, oddly enough, it seems that so far it's actually easier with C(++) than with Forth. Given CM's experience on his new platforms, I must be thinking wrong. :) 15:26:05 (Then again, I do C++ full-time, and rarely get to dabble in Forth anymore, so that might be it) 15:37:43 good evening 15:39:45 Hi crc 15:39:53 hi arke 15:50:54 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 15:58:30 --- join: JoshGrams (n=josh@dsl-216-227-91-166.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 16:10:00 --- quit: gnomon ("leaving") 16:10:53 --- quit: dandersen ("leaving") 16:11:49 --- quit: tathi (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:35:23 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE001d60dffa5c-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 16:38:37 --- quit: lowki (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:08:40 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 17:27:29 --- join: Raystm2 (i=rastm2@c-24-8-232-212.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:09:15 --- quit: arke (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) 19:06:21 --- quit: crc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:36:37 --- quit: Al2O3 () 19:37:58 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@h54.248.40.69.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) joined #forth 20:15:55 --- quit: gnomon (Remote closed the connection) 20:17:17 --- join: madwork_ (n=madgarde@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 20:19:39 --- quit: madwork__ (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:19:39 --- quit: uiu_ (verne.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:20:01 --- join: madwork__ (n=madgarde@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 20:20:01 --- join: uiu_ (n=ian@schihei.net) joined #forth 20:21:33 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE001d60dffa5c-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 20:36:38 --- quit: madwork__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:47:21 --- join: nighty___ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 21:50:30 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:50:42 --- join: gnomon_ (n=gnomon@CPE001d60dffa5c-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 21:50:46 --- quit: gnomon (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:22:52 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE001d60dffa5c-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 22:53:52 --- quit: gnomon_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:57:08 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@110.77.145.40) joined #forth 23:44:51 --- quit: JoshGrams (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:46:45 --- join: DrunkTomato (n=DEDULO@ext-gw.wellcom.tomsk.ru) joined #forth 23:55:41 --- join: ASau (n=user@77.246.230.154) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/09.10.18