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20:01:50 .s <5> 2 3 4 5 2345 ok 20:01:50 -rot .s <5> 2 3 2345 4 5 ok 20:02:39 that would be correct 20:03:48 -rot is rot twice 20:04:07 what are you trying to do? 20:04:08 well i need it to rotate into the other direction, 20:04:17 result 2345 2 3 4 5 20:04:28 rot only deals with the top three values 20:04:43 hmmm 20:05:20 --- quit: ASau` (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:05:49 why do you want to push that far into the stack? 20:06:01 --- join: ASau` (n=user@ppp85-141-215-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 20:06:39 hmmm guess it's okay 20:09:06 is there some place online that houses forth extension scripts? 20:09:32 there's taygeta, which is a mirror of a lot of code 20:09:35 for instance making forth into a unix shell scripting environment 20:09:38 but no single gathering place 20:09:47 the forth community is too diverse 20:10:16 kk 20:11:30 hmmm that says last updated '97 20:11:44 i was wondering if there is an active community i could join and contribute something to perhaps 20:13:27 this is about the only place you can go 20:13:48 theres comp.lang.forth but thats full of spam. the signal to noise ratio there makes the place unbearable 20:14:02 unbarabel? errr damn i cant spell :) 20:14:09 able blah 20:16:19 --- quit: lowki (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:19:26 --- join: lowki (n=lowki@69-165-144-114.dsl.teksavvy.com) joined #forth 20:20:23 reva has an active community 20:20:37 oh 20:23:26 hmmm, i'm having a strange issue with the random number generator i made, 20:23:48 when i do it on the interperter it works out fine, but when i do it from a definition there are a bunch of extra numbers on the stack 20:24:06 code please 20:24:46 oh nm, found problem 20:25:28 --- part: crcx left #forth 20:25:54 --- quit: ASau` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:26:37 --- join: ASau` (n=user@ppp85-141-215-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 20:27:01 hmm, actually not really 20:27:17 interperter: 20:27:18 2BA4CA 23C C41 ok 20:27:18 3 ok 20:27:18 * + mod ok 20:27:18 .s <1> 13E8 ok 20:27:44 commmand: 20:27:45 : random 2BA4CA 23C C41 * + mod ; redefined random ok 20:27:45 3 random ok 20:27:45 .s <1> 3 ok 20:29:16 that doesn't work; it returns the value you pass it 20:30:02 agreed 20:30:08 so how do i fix it? 20:35:37 i was under the impression it is supposed to work 20:39:08 try this: 20:39:11 variable rnd 20:39:11 : rand rnd @ 31421 * 6927 + dup rnd ! ; 20:39:12 : rnd-seed ( n -- ) rnd ! ; 20:39:12 : randomize time&date + * - * + abs rnd-seed rand 100 mod 0 do rand drop loop ; 20:39:26 it's an adaption of a simple random number generator in reva's library 20:39:37 1) call randomize to generate an initial seed 20:39:45 2) call rand whenever you need a random number 20:41:18 k 20:43:32 it's using up all my CPU 20:44:09 had to kill it 20:44:17 oh well 20:44:39 works ok on my system (mac mini) 20:45:00 when i typed randomize, it just hanged 20:45:58 what forth you using? 20:46:15 I ran that code with gforth 0.7.0 20:46:56 mines 0.6.2 20:46:56 --- quit: ASau` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:47:09 0.7.0 is the latest release 20:47:43 --- join: ASau` (n=user@ppp85-141-215-63.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) joined #forth 20:47:50 ya, but i have a stable ubuntu version 20:48:27 so i looked at reva 20:48:36 er the wiki 20:49:09 seems, quite mild. like a mildly non compliant version of forth 20:49:24 reva is not an ans forth dialect by any means 20:50:27 oh well 20:50:30 gforth 0.6.2 was from 2003; 0.7.0 is from 2008 20:50:52 i'll see if i can find an update 20:53:59 what cpu arch? 20:54:06 32 bit 20:54:12 i686 20:54:16 p4 20:54:25 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gforth/gforth_0.7.0+ds1-5_i386.deb 20:55:01 and the other stuff it depends on: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gforth/gforth-common_0.7.0+ds1-5_all.deb 20:55:41 thanks :) 20:56:03 * crc hopes they work 20:56:39 I build my forths from source 20:56:53 i'm sure you can :) 21:03:48 can't seem to find dependency libltdl7 :( 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