00:00:00 --- log: started forth/09.08.11 00:14:01 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@e-27.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 00:15:01 * madgarden is away: aseepin' 00:21:43 --- join: waga (n=chatzill@89.47.179.111) joined #forth 00:21:56 hello 00:23:39 i've not quite understood what's Forth. 00:30:35 Waga: have you read a tutorial? 00:32:18 no 00:32:56 i so it's kind of low-level programming langage in kind of vm 00:33:13 sorry:i saw it's kind of low-level programming langage in kind of vm 00:33:51 There are a few tutorials to choose from here. I learnt form a book so I don't know which one to recommend: http://forthlinks.com/index.php3?category=8 00:35:06 Can I make real programs or it's just an esoteric language 00:35:11 Once you start programming Forth and you get the hang of the stack, it seems natural to program in it. 00:35:49 so I might be able, if i'm advanced, to do turtle graphics in it? 00:35:58 Real as in controlling a satellite, or planetary probe, or radio telescope? If so the yes :-) 00:36:40 Turtle graphics shouldn't be a problem 00:36:50 ok 00:37:14 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 00:37:25 Will the programs run like any other programs in unix? 00:38:14 Not really sure. 00:39:05 You run an interpreter like GForth. I know it's possible to make stand-alone programs, but I've no idea how. 00:39:37 so: ." Hello World!" CR will not make hello world apear in the terminal? I don't mind if it's inerpreted or compiled 00:40:06 .( Hello World!) 00:40:19 ok 00:40:25 .( is if your expecting it to be acted upon straight away 00:40:29 is that another syntax? 00:40:35 ." if your compiling a new word 00:40:53 e.g. : hi ." Hello World" ; 00:40:58 ok. i understood 00:41:19 Adds a new word to Forth, called hi, which outputs hello world 00:41:55 Does it have whiles, fors and ifs or it is as in ASM with CMP? 00:42:36 Yes, it has BEGIN ... UNTIL, BEGIN ... WHILE ... REPEAT, DO ... LOOP, IF ... ELSE ... THEN 00:43:03 coolo 00:44:09 Also CASE, but I've never used that 00:44:52 i miss RPL :/ 00:45:27 * impomatic is going shopping in Cambridge, back later :-) 00:47:40 thanks 00:47:45 bye bye 00:47:52 --- part: waga left #forth 01:19:12 --- quit: _mathrick (Excess Flood) 01:19:31 --- join: _mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 01:19:41 --- quit: xjrn (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:59:32 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 03:05:16 --- quit: _mathrick (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 03:05:41 --- join: _mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 03:10:13 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:14:50 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@212.225.115.96) joined #forth 04:33:38 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 05:06:39 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:39:11 --- join: aguaithefreak (i=aguai@114-42-225-135.dynamic.hinet.net) joined #forth 06:23:41 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@74.198.12.3) joined #forth 06:25:22 --- join: crc_ (n=charlesc@c-68-80-139-0.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:25:22 --- quit: crc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:58:34 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@astound-69-42-10-25.ca.astound.net) joined #forth 07:06:19 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@212.225.115.96) joined #forth 07:34:06 --- quit: nighty__ (Client Quit) 07:53:54 --- join: josefvukovic (n=josefvuk@Q6dbc.q.strato-dslnet.de) joined #forth 07:54:59 how is seaforth available and is it sugested for doing some DSP on it 07:56:37 * madgarden is back (gone 07:41:36) 08:27:08 --- part: josefvukovic left #forth 09:22:31 --- nick: madwork_ -> madwork 09:33:25 --- quit: _mathrick (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:08:14 --- join: mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 11:46:13 Back. Cambridge is a poor place to buy computer books. :-( 11:48:32 Presumably you were trying all the charity / secondhand book shops 11:50:20 I haven't seen anything interesting in a new book shop for ages 11:52:20 Yes, tried those and the new bookshops. 11:52:35 I notice they don't stock Knuth now. 11:54:25 Probably because it doesn't cover HTML, PHP or C# :P 12:05:46 Hmmm... :-( That's about covers 50% of the computer books I saw. The rest were application specific, Excel, Photoshop, etc. 12:06:25 I've had a few books from the library selling off old stock 12:07:27 I only saw one book on compiler internals, two books on algorithms and nothing on operating system internals. My favourite bookshop used to have 200 shelves devoted to computer books. Now it's about 60 :-( 12:09:09 Too specialized for mainstream book shops. It probably depends what the universities are using 12:27:56 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 12:45:25 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@a-32.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 12:53:42 --- join: OoS (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined #forth 12:58:51 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@dynamic-78-30-139-176.adsl.eunet.rs) joined #forth 13:03:28 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:06:53 --- nick: OoS -> impomatic 13:24:39 --- quit: xjrn (Remote closed the connection) 13:54:38 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 14:05:19 --- join: thom_ (n=thom@pool-173-51-224-238.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) joined #forth 14:13:38 --- quit: thom_ ("This computer has gone to sleep") 14:23:27 --- quit: kar8nga (Remote closed the connection) 14:32:38 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 17:31:13 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 17:46:51 --- quit: aguaithefreak (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 17:46:53 --- quit: madwork (wolfe.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 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