00:00:00 --- log: started forth/09.05.07 01:39:11 --- quit: xjrn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:03:08 --- join: gogonkt (n=info@58.248.188.165) joined #forth 04:06:46 --- join: yoyofreeman (n=Administ@124.114.103.201) joined #forth 04:18:30 --- quit: yoyofreeman ("暂离") 04:24:01 --- join: yoyofreeman (n=yoyo@124.114.103.201) joined #forth 05:18:20 --- join: gogonkt_ (n=info@58.248.188.167) joined #forth 05:31:44 --- quit: gogonkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:48:18 --- quit: malyn (Remote closed the connection) 05:48:28 --- join: malyn (n=malyn@unaffiliated/malyn) joined #forth 06:32:43 --- join: Vanax (n=Spock@cpe-77-83-251-90-dsl.netone.gr) joined #forth 06:41:34 --- quit: dkcl (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:54:39 --- join: dkcl (n=dkcl@unaffiliated/dkcl) joined #forth 07:39:55 --- join: dkcl` (n=dkcl@unaffiliated/dkcl) joined #forth 07:40:13 --- quit: dkcl (Nick collision from services.) 07:40:17 --- nick: dkcl` -> dkcl 08:32:24 --- nick: gogonkt_ -> gogonkt 08:33:30 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@212.225.108.65) joined #forth 09:20:53 --- quit: Vanax ("Ex-Chat") 10:30:04 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote closed the connection) 10:30:40 --- join: impomatic (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined #forth 11:11:59 --- quit: impomatic (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:20:11 --- join: impomatic (n=John@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) joined #forth 12:19:13 --- quit: dkcl ("leaving") 12:53:02 --- join: dkcl (n=dkcl@unaffiliated/dkcl) joined #forth 13:35:52 --- quit: gogonkt (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:06:09 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 14:29:14 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:38:52 --- quit: dkcl ("leaving") 17:12:36 --- join: andrewSC (n=andrew@ipanema.parkpointrit.com) joined #forth 17:12:38 hi all 17:12:39 :) 17:12:57 where's the channel Op and stuff? 17:33:27 huh? 17:35:49 Oh, I see. You don't have to keep operator privileges on freenode -- ChanServ keeps the permissions and such. 17:36:25 So the people with permissions can ask ChanServ to set ops on them when necessary. 17:41:26 --- quit: thelaptop|eeepc (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 17:41:29 --- join: thelaptop|eeepc (n=munthyem@EDYTHE-EEE.RES.CMU.EDU) joined #forth 17:41:58 --- nick: thelaptop|eeepc -> Guest74824 17:42:40 ahhh thanks for clearing that up tathi 17:43:26 --- join: I440r (n=mark4__@ip70-162-227-36.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 17:43:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 17:44:08 well it seems like isforth has problems with a feature in the newer kernels 17:44:29 if anyone here has been trying to get isforth to work on their system try turning off heap randomization :/ 17:47:11 :O 17:47:18 heaps in forth!!??? 17:47:20 hahah 17:47:24 just kidding. 17:47:51 what would the purpose of heap randomization be? 17:48:00 is that more along the lines of auto memory management? 17:48:06 --- nick: Guest74824 -> thelaptop|eeepc 18:19:16 heh. 18:19:34 Yeah, the security features can be a pain for that sort of thing. 19:16:09 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@24.9.43.112) joined #forth 19:37:47 --- join: gogonkt (n=info@58.248.188.168) joined #forth 20:05:59 heap randomization is a means of preventing explits 20:06:20 if they didn do that then people would kind of know at what address libc would be loaded in for example 20:06:31 and would be able to do nasty things they shouldnt aughta do 20:07:01 but with heap randomization (developed by the PAX team i think) it becones harder because every memory allocation has some randomness added to it 20:07:42 it breaks isforth because the elf file when loaded can have a memory gap between the end of .text and the start of .data 20:08:15 so when i brk out to 1m. my memory space from the start of .txt to the end of my .bss will have a gap of unallocated memory in it 20:09:24 im trying to formulate a non painful means of allowing isforth to coexist wtih heap randomization 20:09:49 preferably something that doesnt overly complificate my elf file structure 20:10:57 till i figure it out echo 1 >/proc/sys/kernel/randomize_va_space will allow isforth to run in a system with heap randomization enabled 20:11:08 taht disables it for processes but keeps it enabled for libs 20:11:50 nite 20:31:14 ahh 20:31:17 thanks I440r 20:31:19 :) 20:31:21 nite 20:36:13 --- quit: Al2O3 (Remote closed the connection) 21:18:10 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 21:39:44 --- quit: andrewSC ("Leaving") 21:40:00 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@24.9.43.112) joined #forth 22:56:52 --- quit: mathrick (Remote closed the connection) 22:57:23 --- join: andrewSC (n=andrew@74.43.146.33) joined #forth 22:57:26 hi all 22:57:27 :) 22:58:12 tathi, what kind of farm do you own? 23:20:44 --- quit: Al2O3 ("I'm heading out, will be back online soon") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/09.05.07