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13:04:31 You mean like state? 13:05:25 Like LATEST, BASE, etc. Aren't they like a variable? 13:06:37 And STATE :-) 13:06:37 I've seen a few mentioned but can't find a list. I think CSP was another 13:06:53 I'm still googling, but getting distracted by the other stuff that's coming up :-) 13:07:25 BASE and STATE are in the standard 13:07:34 The others may be implementation dependant 13:08:10 DP is a common one (data pointer, the value returned by HERE) 13:08:23 Ah okay, so I don't have to implement any variables apart from BASE and STATE unless I want to. 13:09:39 >IN is standard too 13:10:17 Thanks 13:10:41 #TIB 13:10:52 Those are the only three I see in the core word set (I grepped for '( -- a-addr )') 13:10:55 SPAN 13:11:04 yeah, but those are core ext and obsolescent, to boot. 13:11:06 I'm searching for "address of a cell" 13:12:16 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@a-46.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 13:13:33 Bleh. Why did I put a comma after obsolescent? 13:14:10 To store it into memory? :P 13:18:21 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 13:23:25 Have many people here implemented their own Forth from scratch? 13:23:54 And do many newbies turn up, say they're going to, then disappear when the going gets tough ;-) 13:24:20 GeDaMo: heh 13:25:48 impomatic: yeah, I think a fair number of people here have implemented a Forth. 13:26:19 And yeah, there are lots of half-finished Forths out there. 13:27:26 I don't know about "when the going gets tough", but... it's easy to throw together the basics, but then there's a lot of rather boring work to get a system to have enough functionality that it's actually useful. 13:27:28 I wish I could say mine is half-finished! 13:27:34 hehe 13:28:34 I've written a whole bunch of little toy systems; but I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't really matter so now I mostly just use gforth. 13:29:18 I am working on a cross-compiler in fits and starts, because there doesn't seem to be a good free one. 13:29:40 But I'm finding that to be a fairly tricky proposition, so who knows when I'll actually get anywhere. 13:29:56 OK, gotta go milk the cows. 13:29:59 bbl 13:30:00 I wrote a simple meta-compiler and used it to generate a basic stand alone Forth 13:31:35 yeah...there's all sorts of simple stuff, but I really want something that can take straight normal Forth code, with CREATEing words and no special markup, and generate stand-alone binaries for Linux, Windows, and MacOS. 13:31:45 I haven't been able to find anything like that... 13:32:45 Hmmm... that's sounds like a big project. 13:34:38 Not necessarily 13:34:57 You could do something similar to a Lisp or Smalltalk image 14:01:59 --- quit: kar8nga (Success) 14:46:40 --- join: H4ns1 (n=hans@p57A0C68D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:02:03 --- quit: H4ns (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:04:07 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 16:31:22 --- quit: aguai (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 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