00:00:00 --- log: started forth/09.03.15 00:57:07 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 01:07:55 --- quit: schme ("leaving") 01:08:09 --- join: schme (n=schme@c83-249-80-232.bredband.comhem.se) joined #forth 02:07:54 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@a-61.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 02:17:08 --- join: aguai (n=aguai@114-32-92-170.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #forth 02:19:31 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-68-78.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 02:34:35 --- join: qFox (i=C00K13S@132pc222.sshunet.nl) joined #forth 02:45:08 --- join: kib2 (n=kib2@bd137-1-82-228-159-28.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 02:59:36 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:20:17 --- join: qFox (i=C00K13S@132pc222.sshunet.nl) joined #forth 03:40:10 --- join: schmx (n=schme@c83-249-80-232.bredband.comhem.se) joined #forth 03:53:12 --- quit: schme (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:04:40 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@astound-66-234-200-38.ca.astound.net) joined #forth 04:20:11 --- quit: xjrn (Nick collision from services.) 04:20:37 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@astound-69-42-10-160.ca.astound.net) joined #forth 04:21:37 --- join: k (n=kar8nga@e-172.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 04:21:59 --- quit: kar8nga (Nick collision from services.) 04:22:02 --- nick: k -> kar8nga 05:09:27 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 05:16:01 --- quit: kar8nga (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:26:22 --- join: snowrichard (n=snowrich@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 05:32:16 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 06:08:40 --- join: snowrichard (n=snowrich@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 06:08:54 --- quit: schmx ("Lost terminal") 06:09:10 --- join: schme (n=schme@c83-249-80-232.bredband.comhem.se) joined #forth 06:10:51 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 06:26:41 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 07:02:22 --- quit: xjrn (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:09:06 --- join: snowrichard (n=snowrich@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 07:12:31 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 08:10:09 --- quit: nighty_ (Client Quit) 08:42:46 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 08:45:28 --- quit: nighty_ (Client Quit) 08:51:41 --- join: jewel (n=jewel@dsl-242-138-129.telkomadsl.co.za) joined #forth 09:06:11 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@e-243.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 09:38:18 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-68-78.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 09:47:13 --- quit: kar8nga (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 10:46:54 --- quit: aguai (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:26:22 --- part: kib2 left #forth 11:26:41 --- quit: gogonkt ("leaving") 11:28:55 --- join: gogonkt`` (n=info@58.248.188.26) joined #forth 12:36:04 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@astound-69-42-10-160.ca.astound.net) joined #forth 12:52:59 --- join: tathi (n=josh@dsl-216-227-91-166.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 13:05:43 --- join: crc (n=charlesc@c-68-80-139-0.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:18:27 --- join: cac (n=cac@66.165.15.183) joined #forth 13:35:21 --- quit: schme ("leaving") 13:46:33 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@a-115.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 14:10:55 --- join: oswalda (n=oswalda@94-193-7-241.zone7.bethere.co.uk) joined #forth 14:11:23 hello. has anyone managed to get jonesforth to compile on intel os-x? 14:23:41 jonesforth was built for 32-bit linux, it'll take a fair amount of work to port to OS X 14:25:32 --- join: LOOP-HOG (n=jasondam@97-115-75-67.ptld.qwest.net) joined #forth 14:33:58 there's a ppc + os x port of jonesforth that will work on intel macs 14:34:08 http://www.lshift.net/blog/2007/10/04/jonesforth-ported-to-powerpc-and-mac-os-x 14:34:48 build with: gcc -arch ppc -nostdlib ppcforth.S -o ppcforth 14:42:52 ick why would people use jonesforth over isforth 14:43:03 i just took a look at it and the whole thing makes me cringe 14:43:15 not that im biased or anything 14:44:34 I440r: does isforth support os x yet? 14:44:51 newp 14:44:52 :/ 14:44:53 (I know it doesn't) 14:46:32 i was going to port the linux system calls with the os x equivalents, there dont seem to be too many. however, i can't even get the simple macros to compile under gcc on os x. 14:47:02 the ppc port had to resort to using m4 for the macros 14:47:03 i think it may be because gcc on osx uses as rather than gas 14:47:09 os x ships a different version of gas 14:47:14 no, its gas, but an old version 14:47:21 however, ld on os x is not gnu ld at all 14:47:23 so that's another caveat 14:50:34 slava: thanks for that 14:51:00 i may well resort to converting it to nasm. 14:51:18 ...unless someone knows if that has already been done? 14:55:22 bleh. Just use gforth. :) 14:56:54 where's the fun in that? 14:57:02 hmm... actually I can't remember for sure whether it even runs on OSX 14:57:03 heh 14:57:11 gforth runs on os x 14:57:16 gforth is a pile of trash written in C. 14:57:28 its not that bad 14:57:28 ill never every use any forth written in C. its NOT a forth 14:57:29 period 14:57:37 I440r: yes, we know, thanks. :) 15:04:05 --- quit: kar8nga (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:12:13 Has anyone looked into making a FORTH for this project? http://playpower.org/ 15:12:20 just to annoy I440r, here's a small toy forth in c++: http://paste.lisp.org/display/77091 15:12:22 Basically, it would be FORTH for the NES 15:13:10 I440r, mine's in C 15:15:50 heh. "One Laptop Per Child 'applauds' effort but dismisses comparisons" 15:18:23 I'd totally dig one of those $12 Famicom keyboards 15:18:28 crc: let's not forget this http://www.ioccc.org/1992/buzzard.2.c 15:19:16 I have a non-obscured copy of that on one of my systems 15:21:05 madgarden: are those computers actually available? 15:47:23 any one recommend any other minimal(ish) forths for me to experiment with? os x intel preferably 15:47:50 retro runs on os x 15:48:19 which retro? 15:48:23 littleforth (the c++ code I pastebined) does as well 15:48:29 tathi: the current one 15:49:02 it actually runs a sort of misc-style processor; the code for that can be built on os x and will work 15:49:07 yeah. 15:49:22 at least on intel macs; I've built the vm for ppc and it runs under rosetta, but I haven't tried it on a ppc mac yet 15:52:12 ok thanks. maybe i will drop back in if i get anywhere with the jonesforth nasm-izing 15:56:07 --- part: oswalda left #forth 15:57:42 GeDaMo, not sure if they are readily available here, but are mass produced overseas apparently 16:05:40 --- quit: jewel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:34:45 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 16:46:11 --- quit: xjrn (Nick collision from services.) 16:46:35 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@m1b0e36d0.tmodns.net) joined #forth 17:00:26 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 17:05:44 --- quit: crc (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:12:26 --- quit: xjrn (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:17:37 --- part: X-Scale left #forth 17:39:11 --- join: w7tek (n=wtek@75-162-86-246.slkc.qwest.net) joined #forth 17:40:06 --- quit: LOOP-HOG (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:41:29 What is a reasonably cheap embedded development board for a hobbyist that includes a forth system? 17:45:06 (google has not approved of my search terms, or there aren't any that are "reasonably cheap" 17:45:17 --- quit: w7tek ("Get Colloquy for iPhone! http://mobile.colloquy.info") 17:45:34 --- join: w7tek (n=wtek@75-162-86-246.slkc.qwest.net) joined #forth 17:50:22 --- quit: w7tek (Client Quit) 17:59:31 --- join: mre (n=mre@203-114-189-192.cafenet.dyn.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 18:02:07 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:09:13 --- join: LOOP-HOG (n=jasondam@97-115-75-67.ptld.qwest.net) joined #forth 18:23:06 --- join: w7tek (n=w7tek@knowlton.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 18:38:44 --- quit: mre () 18:40:41 --- join: mre (n=mre@203-114-189-192.cafenet.dyn.inspire.net.nz) joined #forth 18:43:28 --- quit: w7tek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:44:28 --- join: w7tek (n=w7tek@knowlton.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 20:55:31 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:58:48 --- quit: mre (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 21:15:44 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 22:14:30 --- join: madgarden_ (n=madgarde@CPE001d7e527f89-CM00159a65a870.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 22:16:43 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:33:31 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@m480436d0.tmodns.net) joined #forth 23:34:50 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jasonwoo@c-66-31-44-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:34:50 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 23:38:21 --- join: mre (n=mre@203.109.164.75) joined #forth 23:40:29 --- quit: xjrn ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [XULRunner 1.8.0.9/2006120508]") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/09.03.15