00:00:00 --- log: started forth/09.02.04 00:03:59 --- join: workthrick (n=mathrick@0x55529153.adsl.cybercity.dk) joined #forth 00:36:13 --- quit: nighty__ (Client Quit) 00:44:24 screen -x 00:44:27 oops 01:38:16 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-77-42.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 01:58:30 --- join: crc (n=charlesc@c-68-80-139-0.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:35:08 --- quit: crc () 02:45:51 --- join: H4ns1 (n=Hans@p57BBA78D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 02:46:03 --- quit: H4ns (Nick collision from services.) 02:46:05 --- nick: H4ns1 -> H4ns 02:46:23 --- join: H4ns1 (n=hans@p57A0F555.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 02:57:05 --- join: qFox (i=C00K13S@132pc222.sshunet.nl) joined #forth 03:11:59 --- quit: Deformati (Remote closed the connection) 03:12:13 --- join: Deformati (n=joe@c-68-62-76-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 04:14:13 --- join: madmacs (n=madgarde@CPE001d7e527f89-CM00159a65a870.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 04:31:44 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 05:01:41 --- join: impomatic (n=John@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) joined #forth 05:02:18 Hi, how do I read in a number without reading the characters individually with KEY? 05:10:23 --- join: tathi (n=josh@dsl-216-227-91-166.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 05:10:30 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 05:11:21 impomatic: you could use ACCEPT to get a line of text and >NUMBER to help convert it 05:11:56 whatever forth you're using may have better string to number conversion words 05:12:05 Thanks, I'll try that 05:17:37 I'm currently using this: key 10 * key 528 - 05:23:37 --- quit: malyn ("Disconnecting from stoned server.") 05:23:51 --- join: malyn (n=malyn@unaffiliated/malyn) joined #forth 05:39:10 --- quit: madmacs () 06:31:57 --- join: madmacs (n=madgarde@CPE001d7e527f89-CM00159a65a870.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 07:07:18 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jasonwoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 07:07:18 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 07:09:13 --- quit: workthrick (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:52:35 --- join: H4ns2 (n=hans@p57A0E0C4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 08:09:50 --- quit: H4ns1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:23:36 --- join: GeDaMo (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-77-42.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 09:22:58 --- join: hagna (n=hagna@70.102.57.178) joined #forth 09:25:26 --- quit: impomatic ("infinite loops @ http://tr.im/33xe :-)") 09:34:28 --- join: workthrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 09:34:33 --- join: GeDaM1 (n=gedamo@dyn-62-56-77-42.dslaccess.co.uk) joined #forth 09:37:47 --- quit: H4ns ("Leaving.") 09:46:57 --- quit: GeDaMo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:53:11 --- nick: GeDaM1 -> GeDaMo 10:28:58 --- nick: H4ns2 -> H4ns 10:30:05 hagna: were you the guy talking about scripting an fpga in forth? 10:33:09 yeah, he was 10:33:57 cool, so i hope he's back personally as i'm doing something similar 10:36:11 H4ns: you are? 10:36:55 hagna: well, you certainly can't "script" an fpga, but what i have is a forth implementation running on a 6809 core that i use to test out fpga designs i do interactively 10:37:35 hagna: i've been looking for more light-weight solutions, but the system09+maisforth combo was the only full forth that i could find and actually get running with. 10:37:44 hagna: what is it that you want to do? 10:38:58 just a sec 10:42:32 H4ns: I'm new to fpgas and we want to do something with the netfpga 10:42:35 http://www.netfpga.org/ 10:43:43 such as reassembling tcp streams 10:43:50 and I forsee much debugging 10:44:23 and maybe forth can help us spend less time making mistakes with vhdl 10:45:27 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 10:45:34 i think the best advice to give is "simulate everything first", but once you're beyond that, having an interactive environment on the fpga is very nice. that is what i use forth for. 10:46:33 H4ns: how is forth more interactive than cross compiling C code for your 6809 core? 10:46:56 and then running it there 10:47:21 faster turnaround. i can just define a new word on the fpga and run it to try out stuff 10:47:40 i'm a lisp guy, so i'm used to interactive environments :) 10:48:12 --- join: NorthStar (i=email@89.180.23.250) joined #forth 10:48:20 so... the 6809 implements a forth vm and you interact with it like you would in bash when you run gforth? 10:48:45 correct 10:49:02 nifty 10:49:49 H4ns: do you often find things with forth that you didn't by simulating before the fpga was programmed? 10:50:12 oh nm duh I guess you have the real hardware to get input from at that point 10:50:22 i always find different bugs on the real hardware, and that i do with forth :) 10:50:40 ok so can I read a writeup or something? 10:50:45 :) 10:51:06 google "maisforth system09", that is about it :) 10:51:24 H4ns: so did you implement forth yourself for that core? 10:51:45 no, i did not aim to be a forth implementor 10:53:03 H4ns: why don't you use lisp or python for the same thing? 10:53:40 both lisp and python are too resource intensive 10:54:53 --- quit: madmacs () 10:58:26 H4ns: you are much further along than me 10:59:05 --- join: madmacs (n=madgarde@CPE001d7e527f89-CM00159a65a870.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 11:06:07 hagna: anyway, i'll happily discuss forth on fpga if you feel like it in the future. 11:12:41 --- quit: madmacs (Remote closed the connection) 11:33:44 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jasonwoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 11:33:44 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 12:06:33 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 12:26:18 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jasonwoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 12:26:18 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 12:28:39 --- join: tetonca (n=chris@1Cust4698.an3.ewr18.da.uu.net) joined #forth 12:52:20 H4ns: ok thanks 14:12:52 --- quit: tetonca ("User disconnected") 14:51:17 --- quit: nxt (Remote closed the connection) 14:52:41 --- join: nxt (n=nxt@77.207.25.109) joined #forth 15:11:24 --- quit: GeDaMo ("Leaving.") 15:14:55 --- join: sixforty (n=sixforty@206.16.201.166) joined #forth 15:30:36 --- quit: hagna ("leaving") 15:51:53 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 16:13:32 --- quit: qFox (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:19:42 --- join: crc (n=charlesc@c-68-80-139-0.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:40:43 anyone heard from/about Raystm2 in the past couple of months? 16:43:30 nope 16:44:36 The last thing I've seen from him was back around the middle of September: http://colorforth.net/?p=33 16:45:30 same here; don't know him, just grabbed colorforth.info when it became available 16:45:39 now I don't know what to do with it 16:46:21 At least no sign of him in the obits. 17:07:07 --- quit: crc () 17:21:16 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@c-24-7-31-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:30:21 ah. 17:31:09 did you ask crc? or in #retro? 17:31:36 crc was donating hosting for his stuff, I think. 17:31:51 not lately. btw: good "ah", bad "ah" or six's really lagged "ah"? 17:32:45 good info. I'll haveta prompt him, tho crc's tight-lipped about such 17:47:31 --- join: schmx (n=schme@c83-249-80-232.bredband.comhem.se) joined #forth 17:58:13 --- quit: schme (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:02:54 just "ah", that's why you asked about Ray. :) 18:04:06 not too many people who care about colorforth these days 18:05:59 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:07:24 i question weather CM cares much about it any more 18:07:43 brb 18:07:44 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 18:08:46 as such, no. yesterday's news to him. 18:25:47 --- join: I440r (n=mark4__@ip70-162-227-36.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 18:45:10 --- join: CapnDan (n=danielma@blk-224-207-157.eastlink.ca) joined #forth 18:45:14 ahahah 18:45:17 is this real? 18:45:18 http://www.fukung.net/v/11691/0025e5041762b0f1822f2d230b58c821.jpg 19:05:15 CapnDan: you made me config mailcap. worth it. Now, is that really an Atari kb? I didn't have one long enough to remember 19:09:21 sixforty: mailcap? are you sure it was I? 19:11:20 yep. unconfig'd NetBSD. Got tired of clicking on URL and getting "netscape.sh not found", so . . . 19:11:49 didn't the reference to "Atari" specify your post? 19:12:31 mebbe some day I'll have cut/paste 19:15:51 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 19:24:07 ahahahah 19:36:24 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jasonwoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 19:36:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 19:51:50 --- quit: schmx ("leaving") 19:56:53 --- quit: xjrn (Connection timed out) 20:29:17 --- join: gogonkt`` (n=info@218.13.60.101) joined #forth 20:30:21 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 20:32:35 --- join: aguaithefreak (n=aguai@122-116-183-8.HINET-IP.hinet.net) joined #forth 20:51:09 --- quit: sixforty ("ircII+tkirc2") 20:54:38 --- join: sixforty (n=sixforty@206.16.201.166) joined #forth 21:04:26 --- join: xjrn (n=jim@c-24-7-31-66.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:14:28 --- quit: sixforty ("ircII+tkirc2") 22:01:47 --- quit: workthrick (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:59:26 --- quit: Deformati (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:24:30 --- join: Deformati (n=joe@71.238.45.45) joined #forth 23:34:10 --- join: Baughn (n=svein@084202037181.customer.alfanett.no) joined #forth 23:38:44 --- join: workthrick (n=mathrick@0x55529153.adsl.cybercity.dk) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/09.02.04