00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.12.02 00:12:56 --- join: qFox (i=C00K13S@132pc222.sshunet.nl) joined #forth 00:17:53 --- quit: jewel (Connection timed out) 00:49:57 --- join: ygrek_ (i=user@gateway/tor/x-a0ce7e44e036cc2c) joined #forth 00:51:40 --- join: jewel (n=jewel@dsl-242-139-18.telkomadsl.co.za) joined #forth 01:36:54 --- quit: ygrek_ (Remote closed the connection) 01:45:22 --- quit: foxLaptop (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:13:52 --- join: ygrek_ (i=user@gateway/tor/x-d2b7c70e20d04702) joined #forth 03:35:06 --- quit: ASau` (Remote closed the connection) 03:35:24 --- join: ASau` (n=user@host189-231-msk.microtest.ru) joined #forth 04:12:22 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:19:19 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:19:45 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 04:35:09 --- quit: jewel (Connection timed out) 04:39:54 --- join: jewel (n=jewel@dsl-242-139-18.telkomadsl.co.za) joined #forth 06:57:04 --- quit: ASau (Success) 07:07:12 I440r: anynews for isForth? 08:26:07 --- join: ASau (n=user@193.138.70.52) joined #forth 08:28:35 --- quit: jewel (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:31:53 --- quit: ramkrsna ("Leaving") 08:51:58 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-66-31-44-71.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:51:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 08:56:29 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 08:57:49 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 09:19:26 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 09:19:48 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@x122091.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) joined #forth 09:30:10 --- quit: ASau` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:40:08 --- join: forther (i=cf2f2264@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-265a1ca7fdb34b63) joined #forth 09:41:15 --- quit: forther (Client Quit) 09:41:44 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 10:07:08 gogonkt actually ive been working on it a little 10:07:20 made some minor changes. going to try get my new site active if i can :) 10:07:32 nice 10:07:54 going to bed,see you :D 11:07:27 --- quit: forther (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:10:28 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 11:32:00 --- quit: proteusguy (Remote closed the connection) 11:32:11 --- quit: grub_booter (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11:40:14 --- join: grub_booter (n=charlie@d515301E0.access.telenet.be) joined #forth 13:10:51 --- quit: ygrek_ (Remote closed the connection) 13:23:31 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 13:26:31 --- join: jewel (n=jewel@dsl-242-139-18.telkomadsl.co.za) joined #forth 14:23:27 --- quit: jewel (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 14:38:40 --- quit: grub_booter (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:39:20 --- join: grub_booter (n=charlie@d515301E0.access.telenet.be) joined #forth 14:42:15 --- join: tathi (n=josh@dsl-216-227-91-166.fairpoint.net) joined #forth 14:42:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 15:33:14 --- join: DocPlatypus (n=skquinn@dialup-4.230.39.34.Dial1.Houston1.Level3.net) joined #forth 15:43:40 --- join: manic12_ (n=manic12@c-98-227-126-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:58:49 --- quit: DocPlatypus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:52:17 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 17:03:41 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@210.188.173.245) joined #forth 17:17:08 are most win32forth developers working with the stc version? 17:25:33 why? 17:25:50 i would assume they are because i think they added some sort of optimization to it 17:26:11 but ive not been following it. last tom ziller compiler i used was FPC :) 17:26:22 tho win32 isnt exactly a tz product any more 17:26:24 i'm trying to figure out if something changed with FCOM.f for the stc version that could have rendered it incapcitated for the regular version 17:27:32 i dont think there are any people in here who use win32forth 17:27:34 :/ 17:27:42 would be nice to see some of them come in here tho 17:51:06 --- join: Rodo12 (i=Bob@v-209-98-172-92.mn.visi.com) joined #forth 17:56:24 --- quit: Rodo12 ("Leaving") 17:56:50 COM does work under the STC version, whereas it didn't seem to work under win32forth 6.12 18:11:53 what is COM? 18:12:21 http://www.microsoft.com/com/default.mspx 18:12:30 oh 19:04:42 --- part: manic12_ left #forth 19:34:37 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 20:16:36 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 20:16:48 --- quit: tarbo (Remote closed the connection) 20:17:37 --- join: tarbo (n=me@unaffiliated/tarbo) joined #forth 21:08:49 --- join: forther (i=1805bbcb@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-ad1f3d5c1a6cf3f7) joined #forth 21:21:18 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 21:22:45 --- join: forther_ (n=forther@c-24-5-187-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:23:53 --- quit: forther_ (Client Quit) 21:25:21 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 21:26:35 looks like freenode stopped banning mibbit gateway 21:35:40 I think it's Quartus who stopped banning mibbit. 21:35:59 we ban mibbit in #concatenative because of trolls 21:41:47 you mean "because of bots"? 21:42:26 no, just idiots coming in 21:47:00 * forther is wondering if #concatenative is more active, then #forth 21:47:22 66 users right now 21:47:41 BTW russian #forth channel is pretty active. sometimes 21:47:53 slava: you speak russian, right? 21:47:57 yes 21:51:50 then you should visit it. I know few guys there who really appreciate your work on factor 21:52:04 they should visit #concatenative :) 21:52:27 i'm tried of debating forthers on the merits of type checking, garbage collection, libraries, etc 21:52:58 Type checking... 21:53:33 what type? there's no types, just an integers 21:53:42 http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/10/egomania-itself.html 21:54:53 do you expect us to read through whole of it? 21:55:33 most of the programming community has moved on and accepted certain truths, forth in the other hand is stuck in the 70's and dying 21:56:01 Most of which community? 21:56:07 The one you're in? 21:56:36 Read the article. 21:56:42 I read it when it first came out 21:56:45 --- join: ramkrsna (n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna) joined #forth 21:56:56 I've read many of his articles, and I think he's an inexperienced fool 21:57:10 So, you say that those evidences against type checking are wrong. 21:57:20 "So worse to facts"? 21:57:22 his post where he pretended to know something about JIT compilers and so on was especially hilarious 21:58:23 Check where PERL and PHP are and where your Factor is. 21:58:32 All about type checking. 21:58:42 all of those have type checking 21:59:03 your perl program doesn't access random memory and such if you pass the wrong value to a function 21:59:07 what do you mean "where"? alphabetically? 21:59:29 Acceptance in the industry. 21:59:55 I'm off. 22:00:19 well ... most accepted language in the "industry" is gnu make 22:00:53 and most polular programming statement is "make all" 22:02:53 on the serious note. JS is going to eat them all. 22:03:41 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 22:04:39 or not ... 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