00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.08.01 00:01:23 --- quit: vixey () 00:16:34 --- quit: mathrick (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:16:57 --- join: mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 00:19:27 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 00:53:25 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-620118e846b3944d) joined #forth 01:29:51 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 01:40:20 aum: they'd bought KA9Q stack or pushed their own with more force. 01:55:01 --- join: ramkrsna (n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna) joined #forth 01:58:26 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@plc31-103.linzag.net) joined #forth 01:59:20 --- join: qFox (i=C00K13S@234pc222.sshunet.nl) joined #forth 03:16:12 ? 03:16:26 hi 03:16:34 hi slava 04:03:39 --- quit: aum ("Leaving") 06:47:43 --- quit: aph (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:19:40 --- quit: kspaans (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:58:06 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 08:07:15 --- join: fwiffo (i=none@unaffiliated/fwiffo) joined #forth 08:51:17 --- quit: fwiffo (Remote closed the connection) 08:53:43 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-161-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:53:43 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 08:54:27 anybody recognize this logo? http://jasonwoof.com/downloads/zebra_logo.png 08:59:35 ahh, found it. it's SchoolTool 09:24:41 --- join: BobFunk (n=mathiasc@172.pool85-54-177.dynamic.orange.es) joined #forth 09:50:23 --- join: kar8nga (n=ctc@m-42.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 09:51:12 man, it's happening again 09:51:12 I'm working with C++ and it's convincing me that the OOP paradigm is flawed 09:51:12 not worth the bother 10:18:31 I think prototypes would be useful 10:18:43 weird thing in C++ is people make all these different buffer classes 10:18:57 they all have size() data() and append() 10:19:11 but you can't use them interchangably 10:19:35 since they aren't subclasses of something that has that API 10:22:43 --- join: GoNoGo_ (n=GoNoGo@cro34-3-82-236-93-215.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 10:23:26 C++ works best when you own the whole set of libraries and can normalize the API. 10:24:36 Doing OS-level and embedded systems work, I've had that luxury for the last 15 years. Not everyone gets that lucky. 10:25:33 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:43:06 --- quit: GoNoGo_ ("ChatZilla 0.9.83 [Firefox 2.0.0.16/2008070205]") 10:43:12 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-79a306557b5e21cd) joined #forth 10:55:06 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 10:55:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 11:01:02 TreyB: suppose I'm on the extreeme other end 11:01:26 I'm working on a large project, trying to bridge code of two different developers, who use different classes and coding conventions 11:01:48 they don't even share a convention on capitalization 11:06:51 Yeah, your life sucks. 11:07:07 At least with repsect to C++ ;-) 11:09:53 hehe 11:10:42 :) 12:01:16 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:01:30 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 12:14:04 --- quit: BobFunk () 12:30:50 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@plc31-103.linzag.net) joined #forth 12:41:47 --- quit: JasonWoof (Remote closed the connection) 12:47:46 --- quit: ramkrsna (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 12:55:49 --- join: BobFunk (n=mathiasc@172.pool85-54-177.dynamic.orange.es) joined #forth 13:16:59 --- quit: BobFunk () 13:23:47 --- join: BobFunk (n=mathiasc@172.pool85-54-177.dynamic.orange.es) joined #forth 13:29:43 --- quit: BobFunk () 13:55:21 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 14:06:29 --- quit: kar8nga (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:21:28 --- nick: segher -> beer 14:21:51 --- nick: beer -> segher 14:30:57 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 14:52:45 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.2) joined #forth 15:15:01 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:39:49 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 15:45:23 --- quit: uiu (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:46:34 --- join: qFox (i=C00K13S@234pc222.sshunet.nl) joined #forth 15:48:11 --- join: uiu (n=ian@HSI-KBW-085-216-030-033.hsi.kabelbw.de) joined #forth 16:15:31 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-161-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:15:31 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 16:15:56 lol, listening to espeak (computer generated audio) 16:16:13 was comparing "emacs" and "roman six" 16:37:31 --- join: kspaans (i=kspaans@staples.cmclub.uwaterloo.ca) joined #forth 17:16:12 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:16:19 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 17:42:46 --- quit: JasonWoof (Remote closed the connection) 17:42:57 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-161-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:42:57 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 17:50:49 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 18:44:58 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 20:48:03 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.1) joined #forth 23:36:00 --- quit: JasonWoof ("leaving") 23:46:10 --- quit: ASau` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:47:27 --- join: kar8nga (n=ctc@m-127.vc-graz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.08.01