00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.07.11 00:07:34 --- quit: malyn ("Disconnecting from stoned server.") 00:07:50 --- join: malyn (n=malyn@unaffiliated/malyn) joined #forth 00:17:58 --- join: gnomon_ (n=dsl@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 00:29:11 --- quit: gnomon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:29:28 --- quit: uiu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:54:35 --- join: jamc (i=ar8uul1t@90-231-88-54-no84.business.telia.com) joined #forth 02:56:15 --- join: craigo1 (n=craigo@202.63.56.72) joined #forth 02:56:24 --- quit: craigoz (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 04:02:51 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 05:19:34 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@147.94.64.67) joined #forth 07:52:22 --- nick: gnomon_ -> gnomon 08:08:47 --- quit: jamc ("rcirc on GNU Emacs 23.0.60.1") 08:28:02 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-161-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:28:02 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 08:34:07 --- quit: craigo1 ("Leaving.") 08:39:10 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.1) joined #forth 09:37:22 --- quit: kar8nga ("Leaving.") 10:45:51 --- quit: JasonWoof (Connection timed out) 10:46:53 --- join: kar8nga (n=kar8nga@AMarseille-151-1-51-224.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr) joined #forth 11:33:40 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 11:40:15 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:56:30 --- join: cepera (n=cepera@86.110.163.29) joined #forth 12:01:10 hi all! 12:01:33 i want to start learning of Forth programming language. What problems can i solve with it? 12:13:08 --- quit: cepera (Client Quit) 12:21:57 --- join: jwhiteman (n=jimtron@c-76-106-195-218.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:22:13 --- part: jwhiteman left #forth 12:39:24 --- join: ravenexp (n=a@87.252.242.19) joined #forth 12:42:30 people rarely seem to grasp than any problem can be solved in any turing complete language 12:42:56 that's not true. 12:43:20 if your language doesn't let you access sockets for instance, you can't use it to write a web server. 13:46:42 --- quit: mathrick ("HULK ANGRY! HULK DISCONNECT!") 13:51:04 --- nick: Raystm2 -> abnoRmAllYSane 13:54:20 How would a language prevent you from accessing a socket? 13:54:38 A turing complete language at that? 13:54:39 well, imagine a brainfuck interpreter with no way to make syscalls 13:54:56 That's the interpreter... 13:55:28 There's nothing lacking in how expressive the language is that prevents you from conveying the concept of a socket. 13:56:40 It's about as related to the language itself as is saying you can't use network sockets in C if you remove the network card from your computer or use a kernel with no TCP/IP stack. 13:58:21 One might beable to bring up a forth in BF**K. colorForth is faily minimal and has netDrivers. 14:00:04 But I'm certain I'm talking apples to your oranges. 14:00:45 DerDracle: right, and if an interpreter lacks a capability that one needs then no matter how turing complete it is, you can't write your program 14:03:07 The interpreter isn't turing complete... 14:07:10 slava doesnt Factor have such capabilities written my you and your team? 14:07:42 sorry, my should read by. 14:12:57 --- join: mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 14:19:07 --- quit: ravenexp (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:23:12 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-161-30.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:23:12 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 14:41:25 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 15:40:50 --- part: kar8nga left #forth 16:29:03 --- nick: abnoRmAllYSane -> Raystm2 16:32:23 --- quit: Raystm2 ("Should have paid the bill.") 16:43:25 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 16:43:36 good evening 16:45:59 howdy! 16:46:15 I'm programming in C++ voluntarily. 16:46:19 seen my marbles anywhere? 16:51:17 nope 16:51:40 I've managed to stay away from C++ 16:55:31 I'm doing something that would be very easy in forth 17:00:12 then why not use forth? 17:21:29 --- join: Raystm2 (n=Ray@unaffiliated/raystm2) joined #forth 17:22:13 existing project 17:22:24 I'm hacking on gnash so it'll support openstreetmap.org editor 17:30:32 --- join: mark4 (n=mark4@ip70-190-69-3.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 17:50:17 --- quit: ramkrsna (Remote closed the connection) 18:24:45 --- quit: qFox ("Time for cookies!") 19:06:19 --- quit: mathrick (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:31:13 --- quit: tarbo (Connection timed out) 20:12:48 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.169.182.169) joined #forth 20:13:03 hi 20:18:05 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 21:43:26 --- join: mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 22:29:32 --- quit: aspect (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:53:16 --- join: aspect (i=aspect@burns.dreamhost.com) joined #forth 23:12:50 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 23:40:35 --- join: aum (n=aum@60-234-243-247.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.07.11