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#forth 10:09:27 --- join: segher (n=segher@84-105-61-45.cable.quicknet.nl) joined #forth 10:12:43 --- quit: segher (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:12:44 --- quit: malyn_ (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:12:44 --- quit: Deformative (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:12:44 --- quit: mathrick (clarke.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:13:00 --- join: malyn_ (n=malyn@server.strangeGizmo.com) joined #forth 10:13:00 --- join: mathrick (n=mathrick@users177.kollegienet.dk) joined #forth 10:13:00 --- join: Deformative (n=joe@c-68-62-76-160.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:13:00 --- join: segher (n=segher@84-105-61-45.cable.quicknet.nl) joined #forth 10:45:00 Hi. 10:45:24 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-c77282bc37452890) joined #forth 11:00:02 --- join: forther_ (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 11:15:09 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 11:43:55 --- quit: forther_ ("Leaving") 11:58:14 hi 12:09:31 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 12:32:10 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 12:37:32 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-e33facd2dd05d6ff) joined #forth 13:49:21 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 13:52:36 --- join: saon (n=saon@75.102.128.131) joined #forth 14:34:49 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:20:17 how to build a forth file into a stand alone excusive file 15:20:20 ? 15:26:52 depends on which forth 15:35:59 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:51:34 --- join: saon_ (n=saon@75.102.128.131) joined #forth 16:51:55 --- quit: saon (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:11:07 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-53-32.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:11:42 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 17:11:42 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 17:12:11 hi all 17:13:40 hi 17:22:56 how's it going? 17:28:14 good good 17:28:36 excellent 17:28:44 grr gforth is so crappy 17:28:50 oh? 17:29:07 why doesn't it exit when it's done? 17:29:47 heh. because it's not a scripting language. 17:30:38 Did I tell you I tried MPE's linux alpha, and Forth, Inc.'s windows demo, and wasn't impressed with either of them? 17:31:08 I mean, they had decent code generation, and I guess they had a bit better documentation, but they weren't hugely more polished than gforth. 17:31:12 Weird. 17:33:02 huh 17:33:23 hos is gforth not a scripting language? 17:34:04 it is 17:34:40 should have thought before I said that 17:34:57 I just get irritated whenever I run it on a file 17:35:12 its authors seem like the kind of people who would expect it to drop into interactive mode afterwards, and see nothing wrong with having to end your scripts with BYE 17:35:18 run it on file... it doesn't exit at the end of my script... so I hit ^C... it doesn't exit 17:35:30 so I hit ^C a few more times, and finally remember that I have to hit ^D 17:35:52 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-53-32.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:36:08 whereas I see nothing wrong with putting "-" as the last argument if I want it to go interactive after 17:36:14 yup 17:36:53 yeah, I hate that it ignores ^C 17:37:24 signal handling in gforth is quite bad 17:37:46 iirc it tries to print an error message if it gets sigpipe saying that it can't output 17:40:07 which causes another sigpipe, etc 17:40:42 ya 17:41:00 cool that gforth has a debugger, but I wish it wasn't always on 17:41:49 I think gdb is great, but I would hate it if I couldn't run C programs without it 17:52:56 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:00:28 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 18:03:47 anybody know how many hoursepower a decent biker would put out over an extended (maybe 30 minutes) ride? 18:05:54 less than half, anyway. 18:06:11 I'm pretty sure max burst power is half or three-quarter 18:06:41 ok 18:06:54 just thinking if 50 people on a bus all pedalling would make it go well or not 18:07:06 JasonWoof: http://jasonwoof.org/ <-is that you? 18:07:30 wikipedia on horsepower says someone can sustain 0.1 horsepower indefinitely, and a trained athlete can maintain 0.3 for several hours 18:07:41 * aguai THE JasonWoof!!! 18:07:53 aguai: jasonwoof.org is open for anyone to edit 18:08:00 aguai: I put a bunch of stuff there though 18:08:07 http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~et181/hpv/hupgraph.gif 18:08:10 mostly linked from http://jasonwoof.org/jason_woofenden 18:08:40 (from this page: http://www.ent.ohiou.edu/~et181/hpv/hpv.html) 18:08:46 aguai: I also wrote the code to run the wiki 18:09:13 JasonWoof: you looking at the links from kc5tja's blog? 18:09:20 JasonWoof: I seen the Mendplot by you 18:09:28 that is fantastic... 18:09:48 awesome chart 18:10:01 tathi: no, is he writing about this? 18:10:21 aguai: the what? mandelbrot? 18:11:27 JasonWoof: yes (sorry for the bad English) 18:11:39 JasonWoof: http://falvotech.com/blog/index.php?/archives/375-Public-Services-Cut-Back-Due-to-Fuel-Prices.html 18:11:56 links to a bunch of silly multi-person pedal-powered things 18:15:25 aguai: thanks. the spiral "julia set" one is my favorite 18:15:48 seems like a pedal-powered bus wouldn't be able to go real fast 18:16:02 33 pedlers = about 10hp 18:16:27 iirc my little old car was about 10hp 18:18:05 the 32-pedaler bus Sam links to apparently goes about bike speed 18:18:29 lol: Expected torque: 2000 Nm towards the brewery in Lieshout, 800 Nm at the return trip. 18:18:34 But it sounds like it may not have been built as a serious hpv 18:18:57 yeah 18:19:06 you should be able to go much faster than bikes if you build it right 18:19:21 even just two people on a normal tandem bike go faster than a one-person bike 18:29:25 --- quit: Al2O3_ () 18:33:02 yup 19:17:25 --- quit: crc ("Leaving.") 19:26:41 the conference bike is amusing 19:26:55 too bad it's so expensive 20:31:38 --- quit: tathi 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