00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.04.25 00:18:14 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 00:25:07 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 00:43:17 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 00:49:28 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 01:03:17 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote closed the connection) 01:25:34 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:53:43 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@210.188.173.246) joined #forth 02:14:37 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-b95bc45afc09f6bb) joined #forth 02:20:39 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@adsl-224-84.eunet.yu) joined #forth 02:41:04 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote closed the connection) 03:11:22 --- quit: ygrek ("Leaving") 03:14:19 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 03:20:48 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 04:57:50 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 05:11:22 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:05:22 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 06:12:15 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.2) joined #forth 06:21:53 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:33:08 --- join: pbx (n=pbx@24.60.149.101) joined #forth 06:33:32 --- part: pbx left #forth 07:21:35 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-165-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:21:35 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 07:33:56 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 08:41:13 mornin' all 08:41:27 how shall I save the world today? 08:55:45 one slice at a time 09:05:55 with pepperoni? 09:06:39 optional. 09:10:45 sweet. 10:29:33 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 10:38:13 wow, there is actually a fair bit of documentation for fronds here: http://jasonwoof.org/fronds 10:38:34 I'd totally forgotten writing that 10:47:29 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:51:56 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:09:04 ok, now you can easily change the color/action of the source word/token under the cusror between execute, compile, and postpone 11:09:45 alt-[ makes the word one step more towards execute ( postpone -> compile -> execute ) and alt-] does the opposite 11:10:22 hmmm... maybe it should advance the cursor so you can hit it a bunch of times to change all tokens 11:17:59 eh, I'll wait and see how I use it 11:18:21 If/when I go around turning lots of words into immediates, it would be useful 11:23:16 --- quit: TreyB_ (Remote closed the connection) 11:23:19 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 11:23:36 immediates are extra work in the cross-compiler for herkforth, so I don't have too many of them yet 11:29:44 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-211-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:37:57 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11:38:00 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 12:00:00 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 12:00:13 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:33:54 --- join: specu (n=user@cpc5-cmbg2-0-0-cust376.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) joined #forth 12:34:01 :) 12:34:02 Hi 12:34:23 didnt know about existence of such a channel ;) 12:34:52 --- quit: TreyB_ (Remote closed the connection) 12:35:02 Wowsa, intellasys replied. 12:35:13 Quartus`: Be amazed. :P 12:35:24 They put me on their backlog of requesters. xD 12:38:49 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 12:54:22 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:01:12 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:03:15 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.1) joined #forth 13:06:26 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:11:06 specu: welcome :) 13:16:52 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 13:55:23 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 13:55:32 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 14:35:01 JasonWoof: Thanks.:) The enlightmnent came recently :) 14:44:15 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 14:44:18 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 14:45:32 specu: just discovered forth? 14:47:10 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 14:55:48 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 14:56:58 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 15:00:54 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 15:26:17 --- quit: JasonWoof ("real world") 15:33:38 well actually yes, and i did implemented :) 15:33:42 so its even more fun 15:34:19 --- quit: I440r ("brb") 15:44:45 --- join: arke (n=arke@p57A77048.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:44:45 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 15:59:12 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 16:02:33 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 16:16:39 --- quit: specu (Remote closed the connection) 16:59:31 --- join: BMeph (n=BMeph@adsl-76-212-192-106.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 17:30:18 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 17:30:18 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 17:31:36 --- quit: BMeph (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:56:07 hi 17:56:15 hi 17:56:37 I am really confuse with >r 17:56:58 : x >r dup r> ; <- this works fine 17:57:34 but 1 2 >r dup r> 17:57:36 dont 17:59:14 Invalid memory address 17:59:29 :( 17:59:31 you can only use >r and r> inside a definition 17:59:43 tathi: ok... thanks 18:00:22 Sure. 18:00:47 * aguai supposed gforth should treat it as an compiled only word.... 18:00:54 The return stack is used for return addresses, so depending on how the interpreter loop is written, it often causes problems. 18:01:01 Yeah, I thought gforth did. 18:01:16 I think the CVS version does... 18:01:21 tathi: no... not this 18:01:26 oh..... 18:01:49 * aguai maybe I should co it and build my own one 18:02:06 Easier to just avoid using >r and r> outside of definitions 18:02:23 (*thinking*) 18:02:24 Building gforth from cvs can be a pain. 18:02:36 yeah I think so 18:02:41 has anyone here ever used a cypress ez-usb device? 18:02:47 Yes 18:02:51 you have? 18:03:03 I think so...modified 8051 core? 18:03:05 does PKTEND imply EOF? 18:03:06 yes 18:03:22 hrm. Don't remember. 18:04:00 i have an image head thats streaming frames of data. when the image sensor finishes integrating and transmitting a frame it toggles its end of frame signal which is tied in to the cypress PKTEND input 18:04:18 the problem is that when the sensor is streaming data therse effectivly NO gap between frames 18:04:26 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 18:04:48 it would be somewhat usefull if pktend caused an EOF on my end of things, im in linux reading a usb file at the other end of the usb line 18:04:59 when end of frame occurs will i get an EOF on my file? 18:05:15 does this mean i need to close and re-open the USB file for the next frame? 18:05:23 if so... can i do this during the vertical blank period? 18:05:37 i have NO freeking idea how EOF is detected even in single shot mode 18:05:49 i know it works, im capturing images. i just dont know how it WORKS! 18:06:24 im just doing an fread(usbfile); so there HAS to be an eof. because the usb device does not know jack shit about the length of the data being sent 18:06:35 the only way i can see the eof being generated is this pktend signal 18:06:38 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 18:06:51 Yeah...can't help you there; I never got that far into it. 18:06:59 Sorry 18:07:01 dang 18:07:03 lol tsok 18:07:35 I was just playing with the ActiveWire USB board, writing "firmware" to make it pretend to be a USB keyboard so I could play with chorded input. 18:08:16 cool 18:08:44 yeah. fun chip. 18:09:39 well im not actually involved with it, im at the other end of the pipe. the system doesnt currently support a streaming mode but were working on image quality 18:10:00 which includes things like auto exposure and and auto focus, auto white balance etc etc 18:10:18 well... some of these require stats collected during a streaming mode 18:10:30 I440r: that's really cool!!! 18:10:43 heh it is if it works lol 18:11:05 i got the auto white balance done and i changed the bayer to rgb from crappy "sort of works" to "works good" heh 18:11:08 Yeah, the linux side of usb handling looked pretty complex and I never managed to trace all the way through it. 18:11:11 still only simple gray world model tho 18:11:36 i was looking for a chanel on here that was related to it but i cant find one :/ 18:13:06 not in forth bleh 18:13:51 Hrm. And I was using the old AN2131 also. 18:14:53 I doubt you'll get an EOF 18:16:30 if you used the posix read() instead of fread() it might return you one packet worth of data or something... 18:16:39 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 18:17:13 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 18:19:26 a zero length packet? 18:19:43 the pktend is used to transmit the buffer in the case where it never filled 18:19:50 so pktend IS the last packet of the frame 18:19:56 but how tf do I Know that lol 18:20:13 ah, I see. 18:22:58 actually it does use read not fread 18:23:01 my bad 18:57:22 --- quit: crc ("Leaving.") 18:58:18 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:59:16 --- join: BMeph (n=BMeph@adsl-76-212-192-106.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 19:04:19 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 19:09:44 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 19:37:08 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:37:54 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 20:25:28 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 20:29:05 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:42:25 --- join: crc (n=charles@c-68-83-96-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:53:53 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@p2206-adsau16honb13-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) joined #forth 21:16:21 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 21:19:29 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:25:01 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 21:35:10 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:36:24 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 21:53:22 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 21:54:52 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:01:57 --- quit: TreyB (Remote closed the connection) 22:03:24 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:04:36 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 22:06:17 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 22:31:33 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.04.25