00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.04.24 00:00:53 --- quit: Deformati (SendQ exceeded) 00:15:44 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 00:21:28 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:17:51 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@adsl-224-84.eunet.yu) joined #forth 01:50:48 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:55:48 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 02:15:49 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:23:03 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:03:51 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 04:10:20 --- join: aguai_ (n=aguai@host86-137-6-54.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 04:32:57 --- quit: aguai (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:35:32 --- nick: aguai_ -> aguai 04:37:19 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@plc31-103.linzag.net) joined #forth 04:41:34 --- join: tiezemans (n=user@202.63.242.211) joined #forth 05:59:36 --- nick: TreyB_ -> TreyB 06:14:50 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-165-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:14:50 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 06:19:16 mornin' all 06:22:21 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:52:02 --- quit: tiezemans (Success) 06:57:51 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@p1036-adsau17honb13-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) joined #forth 07:23:19 Hi JasonWoof :) 07:24:43 hi :) 07:25:24 I just did a little work on my forth, and I'm sitting here waiting about to work 07:25:31 but I just keep thinking about forthy stuff 07:26:28 it's actually fairly close to being able to sustain it's own development 07:26:39 maybe if I keep telling people that it'll sink in 07:27:05 the code navigator is pretty good 07:27:15 find-next is the only significant thing missing 07:27:50 I'd be suprised if that took more than an hour to add 07:37:48 Have you made it available for public viewing yet? 07:41:25 on occation 07:41:30 wanna see? 07:47:56 http://jasonwoof.com/downloads/fovium-2008-04-24.tar.bz2 07:50:22 the file fronds.txt says how to use the interface 07:53:22 wow, I forgot all about writing that fancy ./configure script 08:18:14 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 09:06:27 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 09:06:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 09:07:31 a standard EVALUATE leaves STATE unchanged, right? 09:16:00 JasonWoof: interesting flag stack. 09:19:28 TreyB: I like it. iirc it was tathi's idea 09:19:37 I forget 09:23:02 I think it was, but I don't like it any more. :) 09:24:29 hehe 09:24:55 why not? like boolean logic too much? 09:26:31 I bet the vast majority of my code would work exactly as written with the flags on the regular stack 09:28:26 I haven't dug through the whole document yet. Do you have opcodes to perform logical ops against the flag stack? (like or-ing the top two values) 09:37:01 forther: hola 09:55:14 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:05:37 TreyB: yes 10:06:13 and/or/xor/not IIRC 10:17:23 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-65-96-165-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:17:23 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:30:17 JasonWoof: more that I think that the flag stack is unnecessary, so why not just use the regular stack? 10:31:10 Hello 10:31:33 hi 10:33:18 I'm writing forget, marker at the moment... 10:33:35 Thinking what have to be trimmed 10:39:58 What platform are you writing a Forth system for? 10:41:25 FROG2 forth processor 10:42:13 There is no docs released yet... 10:42:29 ah. your own design, I take it? 10:42:38 Jeah 10:42:43 FPGA? 10:42:49 Yes 10:42:56 Lattice XP 10:44:25 I think you just have to remove the headers and rewind the heap...marker could also reset other stuff, I suppose. 10:45:53 So what are you going to do with the processor once you have a Forth system up? 10:46:11 Yeah, also voc-link ... 10:46:46 oh, the search-order? 10:47:12 I'm using forth in embedded systems. Up until now I used ARM7 in our projects. 10:48:00 This processor generates dense code and have faster execution. 10:48:28 50MHz ara execution rates of forth primitives 10:49:27 So now I'm thinking to switch to my own design which is faster then ARM7 10:49:50 And I can always add new instructions and new hardware 10:49:56 :) 10:53:32 cool 10:53:56 Vocabularies are linked in a list. So If I defined a vacabulary and I want to FORGET I have to clip voc-links to a point before word I'm trying to forget... 10:58:01 --- quit: forther (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:03:58 tathi: yeah, it does seem unnessesary 11:04:04 seemed like a cool experiment 11:04:09 hoped it would reduce stack juggling 11:04:28 I don't do much stack juggling, but I don't think it's related to my use of the flag stack 11:04:40 I rarely set a flag, and then manipulate the data stack before using it 11:05:02 I _think_ 11:05:22 the cool thing about having a decent-sized body of code is that I can profile these things if/when I care to 11:05:40 I won't bother until I've got the fronds editor working though, that's way more important 11:18:50 :se noai 11:18:51 a:se ai 11:18:58 ????? 11:19:04 sorry typo 11:19:12 --- part: aguai left #forth 11:19:23 --- join: aguai (n=aguai@host86-137-6-54.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 11:27:08 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 11:27:46 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 11:29:14 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-200-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:35:23 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 11:36:05 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-7d837c3c05493ffa) joined #forth 11:37:35 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11:37:53 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 11:49:29 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.2) joined #forth 11:51:51 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus`@205.205.50.2) joined #forth 12:04:06 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 12:10:56 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:16:45 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 12:38:43 --- join: mdmorri1 (n=mdmorri1@user-1120ulo.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 12:38:43 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:53:18 --- join: arke (n=arke@p57A768D6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:53:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 13:01:26 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 13:19:57 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:27:20 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 13:45:00 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:50:03 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 13:51:59 --- quit: aguai ("leaving") 14:23:36 --- quit: mdmorri1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:28:17 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-2f9f93050d710e27) joined #forth 14:33:50 good evening 14:35:31 hi 14:57:03 hello 14:57:51 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 15:23:16 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 15:46:58 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:47:46 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 15:56:02 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:02:34 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 16:20:42 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 16:21:04 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:26:41 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 16:47:48 --- quit: JasonWoof ("back to the real world") 17:35:22 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:02:29 --- quit: proteusguy (Connection timed out) 18:03:20 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@61.7.144.97) joined #forth 18:20:40 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@210.188.173.246) joined #forth 18:38:38 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:40:07 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:47:35 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 19:49:33 --- join: aguai (n=aguai@host86-137-6-54.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 21:31:58 hi 21:32:26 I am cueerntly doing the translation of gForth 21:33:06 does anyone know if who I may contact to get the permission? 22:43:12 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:43:57 as long as the result is licensed the same, you don't need any permission 22:44:07 though I'm sure the current maintainers would be intrigued 22:44:15 assuming you mean human-language translation 22:49:42 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.04.24