00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.04.14 00:52:16 --- quit: ecraven ("brb") 01:22:38 --- join: Malfermi1aKodo (n=kansu@xdsl-78-34-142-32.netcologne.de) joined #forth 01:33:53 --- quit: MalfermitaKodo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:21:49 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@adsl-224-84.eunet.yu) joined #forth 04:34:36 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 04:38:43 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 04:40:14 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@140.78.42.119) joined #forth 04:45:51 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:59:48 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 05:05:17 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:18:47 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 05:26:55 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:01:50 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:09:59 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:17:00 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 06:22:07 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Client Quit) 06:55:36 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 08:26:44 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@p1022-adsau16honb13-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) joined #forth 08:53:55 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 09:14:11 --- join: JasonWoof (n=JasonWoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 09:14:11 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 09:40:34 I really like working on Fronds every day :) 09:40:43 slava: thanks for encouraging me to do that. 09:42:04 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 09:50:16 --- join: tane (n=tane@p57903B02.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:51:15 --- quit: aguai (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:05:55 What is fronds? 10:18:14 my forth-like IDE/OS 10:18:49 it can compile itself 10:18:56 runs in a vm on linux currently 10:19:05 you can browse the source code and execute stuff. 10:19:09 I'm working on the editor 10:19:24 just wrote a new key-binding system that is much better designed. 10:20:11 in a day or two I'll probably finish writing the text-entry mode for search and execute and be ready to replace the old input system with m new one 10:20:20 s/ m / my / 10:21:47 oh, and I'm going to generalize the text input/editing so I can use it to enter/edit words in the source code 10:22:12 being able to edit Fronds in Fronds shouldn't be too far off 10:23:33 there's a bit more work. I've gotta be able to add and remove definitions too 10:24:06 create variables, constants and literals 11:17:01 --- join: tane`weq (n=tane@p57903799.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 11:20:30 --- join: aguai (n=aguai@host86-154-101-137.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 11:31:38 --- quit: tane (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:03:52 --- join: snoopy_1611 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-216-158.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 12:10:58 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@plc31-103.linzag.net) joined #forth 12:12:10 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12:12:12 --- nick: snoopy_1611 -> Snoopy42 13:01:41 koules is a neat little linux game 13:07:35 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.178.5) joined #forth 13:30:02 JasonWoof: heh, I haven't played that since 1996 or so 13:30:20 good to know it is still in use 13:30:40 it's in ubuntu 13:31:15 I got it into my head to go to happypenguin.org 13:31:23 search randomly for "beach" and it was the only result 13:31:27 not sure why it came up... 13:31:34 but I wasted a perfectly good hour 13:38:21 --- join: MalfermitaKodo (n=kansu@xdsl-78-34-140-51.netcologne.de) joined #forth 13:44:41 No reply from intellasys as of today. :D 13:45:35 I'm shocked. 13:46:11 Heh. 13:53:40 --- quit: Malfermi1aKodo (Connection timed out) 13:56:42 --- quit: skymir (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:37:34 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:10:29 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 15:28:33 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@205.205.178.5) joined #forth 17:04:24 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 17:04:32 hi 17:06:49 hi. 17:07:27 forther: Do you have a forthdrive? 17:08:07 yes 17:08:12 Omg, nowai. 17:08:17 How? 17:08:32 I'm working in Intellasys 17:08:43 That would explain it. 17:10:16 why? 17:10:40 I would like to purchase one, but I know it is pretty exclusive. 17:11:34 "On a final and positive note, we are optimistic that we will have significant quantities by end of March/early April to get around to most everybody who has approached us." Has that second stock been received yet? 17:11:58 not yet 17:12:32 Unfortunate. 17:12:43 I know :-( 17:13:21 but you sent the e-mail to marketing to they count you in, right? 17:14:05 Yes, Saturday. 17:14:59 they should at least provide you with the tools pretty soon 17:15:05 Alright. :) 17:15:13 Any speculation when the new stock will be in? 17:15:28 I can't tell 17:15:46 Alright. 17:17:10 also I was promised once, that my talking in here will be copied and sent to my bosses. so I have to watch what I say since ... 17:17:51 Oh. 17:22:21 --- join: arke (n=arke@p57A77178.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 17:22:21 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 17:23:02 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 17:26:33 --- join: [tasty]freeze (n=dmhardis@cs.roanoke.edu) joined #forth 17:28:48 --- quit: [tasty]freeze (Remote closed the connection) 17:38:50 --- join: skas (n=skas@support.agiledigital.com.au) joined #forth 17:44:44 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:00:19 --- join: vatic (n=vatic@162.83.232.185) joined #forth 18:01:50 Hi Quartus! What's a simple approach to writing WAV format files on the Palm? 18:26:46 --- join: tane (n=tane@p57903D5F.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 18:42:17 --- quit: tane`weq (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:01:25 --- join: tane`weq (n=tane@p57903C23.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 19:12:56 --- quit: timlarson___ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:13:44 Hi vatic. I'd imagine it's a simple matter of writing the appropriate data structure out. 19:13:57 I confess to not having tried it, at least not in living memory. 19:14:50 --- join: timlarson___ (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 19:14:51 Quartus- seems there's no support for the VFS file functions in Q4, I guess because the systrap info is unpublished or hard to come by? 19:14:55 --- quit: tane (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:15:33 It's published -- and some work has been done on VFS functions, but I haven't built them all in. They'd need to be rolled one at a time, but there's no obstacle to doing so. How large a WAV file do you want to build? 19:16:39 Do they even play out of VFS files? 19:16:44 --- quit: aguai ("leaving") 19:16:51 Quartus- well, not hours long, but a minute might be a bit short... 19:17:11 I had thought they needed to be contiguous in memory. 19:18:03 Each segment played, at any rate. 19:18:49 Well, I admit I'm not that conversant with the Palm OS, but the VFS file services I'm talking about are the one that support writing arbitrary data to the SD card. It looks like the File Stream function that you support sit on top of the Data Manager? 19:19:18 Sorry, I'm not being too coherent here... 19:19:47 Well, the word 'support' needs to be carefully used. The built-in functions do not include some of the newest OS5 stuff, like the VFS -- but that doesn't mean those calls are unsupported, per se. 19:19:49 Do you have some code for the SD card functions? 19:19:56 Let me see. 19:20:59 Here's a bit of code -- http://www.quartus.net/discus/messages/29/2266.html?#POST6807 19:21:29 Things like VFSFileOpen and ExpSlot Enumerate? 19:21:58 Things like, yes. 19:22:37 --- join: aguai (n=aguai@host86-154-101-137.range86-154.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 19:23:19 Oh, great! Thanks! I don't see a VFSFileWrite, but maybe I'm blind and/or stupid... 19:23:44 He doesn't appear to have implemented that one yet, in that file. Not sure if that's the latest. 19:25:12 Well, thanks. I'll poke around some and get back to you... 19:25:19 Let me know if you add any functions. 19:37:17 Quartus: will do. sleep well! 19:37:26 --- part: vatic left #forth 20:00:42 --- quit: timlarson___ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:00:54 --- join: timlarson__ (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 20:17:05 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@210.188.173.246) joined #forth 21:55:37 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 23:42:22 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@140.78.42.119) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.04.14