00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.04.10 03:04:59 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:43:16 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 03:43:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 03:47:51 etnt: if you have a PalmOS device you could use Quartus Forth: http://quartus.net/ 04:21:21 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 04:26:44 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 06:02:27 --- join: MalfermitaKodo (n=kansu@xdsl-78-34-141-30.netcologne.de) joined #forth 06:02:39 Hi! 07:36:43 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@adsl-202-95.eunet.yu) joined #forth 08:03:47 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 08:03:47 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 08:08:55 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-b75158f8f995080d) joined #forth 08:09:08 --- quit: ygrek (Client Quit) 08:10:17 --- join: JasonWoof (n=JasonWoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 08:10:17 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 08:10:43 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-9ef932a0f05c657a) joined #forth 08:49:14 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 09:23:08 mornin' 09:23:13 Hi JasonWoof. 09:24:01 I resurected my forth-like project yesterday 09:24:14 Dusty? 09:24:24 yeah, hadn't touched it since Dec 8th 09:25:01 I found and set up the little bits needed to run the devel environment (my old forth-like project herkforth) on x86 09:25:52 And I browsed around the code a bit, getting right back to where I was when I left off in December: thoroughly confused! 09:26:07 heh 09:26:17 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 09:26:43 browsed and cogitated a lot 09:26:50 eventually realized that I needed to write documentation, not code 09:27:00 hi JasonWoof 09:27:10 heh 09:27:11 started that, was still confused. eventually wrote a sort of tree/chart thing, and now it's starting to make sense 09:27:16 I hope you figured your Konqueror-issues out by now? 09:27:16 I'm trying to get the keybinding stuff to work right 09:27:23 i try to do something with my code every day otherwise i just forget everything 09:27:31 even if its fixing a single typo 09:27:44 slava: I would _love_ to do that. 09:27:50 slava: remind me tomorrow =) 09:28:09 did you go with the FSM for keybinding? 09:28:09 it's a good way to stay motivated when you don't have much time to work on your project. 09:28:13 MalfermitaKodo: no, I'm using epiphany again 09:28:17 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-bfc459a861ddbd02) joined #forth 09:28:23 add a comment, tweak an algorithm, rename a word. 09:28:24 --- quit: ygrek (Client Quit) 09:28:27 make *some* measurable progress. 09:28:29 MalfermitaKodo: I'll play with konqueror more later 09:29:03 all these trivial things add up and its better to spend half an hour on a trivial thing instead of half an hour thrashing about thinking about how little time you have :) 09:29:15 I had electricity problems and real life to attend :( 09:29:23 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-64941c5d0d7e3d58) joined #forth 09:29:24 Quartus: oh right... FSM... don't think I'll use that, but I'm not far off 09:29:41 It seems to me a practical answer. 09:30:30 I don't think my mode changes that much, or possibly predictably enough 09:30:39 one of the things that changes modes is letting go of all the keys 09:31:18 slava: very good advice! 09:32:28 I have two or three rules that apply regardless of state (letting go of all keys goes back to normal mode, and quit key quits for now) 10:49:00 --- join: I440r (n=mark4_@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 10:49:29 --- join: Malfermi1aKodo (n=kansu@xdsl-78-34-135-41.netcologne.de) joined #forth 10:49:39 --- quit: MalfermitaKodo (Nick collision from services.) 10:49:44 --- nick: Malfermi1aKodo -> MalfermitaKodo 11:14:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 11:19:06 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-194-203.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:24:21 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 11:51:26 --- join: I440r (n=mark4_@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 11:51:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 12:29:11 woh, my laptop keyboard seems to let me hold down as many keys as I can 12:29:31 like the 10 keys on the home row that make letters in dvorak 12:29:38 also all number keys at once 12:31:02 I can't find any combos that don't work 12:31:43 I remember on my apple keyboard I couldn't do shift-space-[ 12:32:52 which irritated me, because I was holding down space while typing a word name, and the [ key does / and ? in dvorak 12:32:57 and my words use the ? character 12:33:19 I've got "quasi-modes" 12:33:35 hit mod-space to pop up a dialog that stays up as long as you have any keys down 12:33:53 let go of all the keys and it executes what you typed 12:36:50 --- join: Malfermi1aKodo (n=kansu@xdsl-78-34-141-223.netcologne.de) joined #forth 12:40:59 --- join: iano (n=iosgood@70-57-116-230.ptld.qwest.net) joined #forth 12:48:43 --- quit: MalfermitaKodo (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:21:15 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 13:25:29 --- nick: Malfermi1aKodo -> MalfermitaKodo 13:54:49 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 14:06:52 --- quit: Al2O3 () 14:12:57 --- quit: MalfermitaKodo (Success) 14:18:36 --- quit: iano () 15:04:44 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 15:04:44 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 15:14:58 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:26:06 --- join: I440r (n=mark4_@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 16:39:54 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 17:36:52 --- join: modesto (n=geoperry@microwave.catch22.com) joined #forth 17:37:25 * modesto idles a while (iso: irc-tools for gforth) 17:37:42 ? 17:39:24 modesto, those activity messages will only engender animosity on most channels where the IQ is above room temperature. 17:40:34 I've used gforth's sh to get wget to file web-pages; I had hopes for accessing irc either through gforth's system-calls or through words written for gforth 17:41:30 ... by idling, I intended that I'd stay connected, even while I were away 17:41:50 connectivity doesn't depend on sending in-channel notifications of your current status. 17:44:42 I've grown accustomed to channels whose participants inquire after parties online but quiet 17:48:31 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 17:48:40 --- join: aguai (n=aguai@host86-136-129-6.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 17:48:50 hi 17:49:01 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:50:11 anyone help me on this? : sqare ( x -- x*x ) ????; 17:50:33 what is your problem? 17:51:14 Quartus: I am trying the pForth tutor and I could'nt do this one 17:51:37 ok. What problem are you having? 17:51:52 how can I repeat one var? 17:52:17 You might want to start back at the beginning of the tutorial. I haven't tried it myself, but I hope it doesn't call stack items 'vars'. 17:52:39 : sqare ( x -- x*x ) * ;<- this needs me to type twice 17:53:10 Quartus: I "am" in the first page :( 17:53:36 What has it covered so far? 17:53:50 oh I think I know.... dup 17:54:06 sorry for being silly 17:54:13 np 18:13:55 this thing is really powerful!!! 18:14:18 I did'nt even heard of it before? 18:19:41 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-199-045.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:21:11 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@210.188.173.246) joined #forth 18:25:42 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-114-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:28:34 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18:28:38 --- nick: Snoopy_1611 -> Snoopy42 18:32:56 --- join: Snoopy_1611 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-110-191.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:32:56 --- quit: snoopy_1711 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18:35:24 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-210-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:35:55 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 18:36:34 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-210-154.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:42:45 --- quit: Snoopy_1611 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18:44:25 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18:44:42 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20:01:38 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:55:24 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:27:10 --- quit: maht (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:28:28 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:35:01 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 23:49:36 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@140.78.42.149) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.04.10