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joined #forth 06:56:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 07:42:58 mornin' all 07:43:01 what's cookin? 08:03:16 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:10:28 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:20:18 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:22:40 --- quit: gnomon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:27:11 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:29:14 --- join: Maki (n=Maki@adsl-202-95.eunet.yu) joined #forth 08:34:28 --- join: X-Scale (i=word@89-180-139-187.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 08:36:29 I'm makin' a html/javascript color picker. from scratch! 08:39:21 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:46:35 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 08:58:24 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:04:47 progress! I've generated the PNG with all the hues on it, fading in from black 09:04:52 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 09:05:41 http://jasonwoof.com/downloads/hues.png 09:05:44 so fancy! 09:06:28 rgb values change by 4 herizontaly, and 2 vertically 09:07:21 (horizontally only one of (r,g,b) change at once) 09:07:47 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 09:09:51 --- quit: timlarson__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:16:57 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@66.213.50.2) joined #forth 09:19:26 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:26:32 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:32:01 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 09:40:30 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:46:35 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 09:52:09 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-857be1d21ce2f71a) joined #forth 10:01:32 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:07:29 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 10:26:35 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:32:03 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 10:42:19 good lord 10:42:34 it's next to impossible to find out where the mouse clicked in javascript 10:50:22 heh 10:53:24 I assumed that the main x,y coordinates for a click event would be relative to the thing clicked 10:53:42
10:53:52 I assumed that event.x would be relative to the left side of that div 10:54:57 and that there should be some way to get x coordinate relative to the document and/or to recurse through parents 10:55:03 to get x relative to them 10:55:34 but nooo, you get coordinates relative to the computer screen, which is utterly meaningless 10:55:37 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:55:54 and you sometimes get coortinates relative to the window, which is also meaningless 10:56:17 and sometimes get coordinates relative to the document, which is meaningful, but usually useless 10:56:35 and on top of that, you have no reliable way of telling whether those coordinates are relative to the window or document 10:58:34 and people think it is strange that I hate browsers [wags head in sadness] 10:59:24 yeah, people assume that they're browsers work, since they go to web pages all the time 11:02:55 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:07:39 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@plc9-214.linzag.net) joined #forth 11:14:41 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:21:47 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 11:22:45 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-208-073.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:30:59 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11:31:06 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 11:37:42 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:40:12 ok, now I have a fairly nice layout, and proper click detection 11:40:21 now to calculate the color... 11:44:14 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:48:22 --- quit: X-Scale (Remote closed the connection) 12:04:50 --- join: arke_ (n=arke@p57A75871.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:21:25 --- quit: arke (Connection timed out) 12:46:07 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:50:46 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:51:53 --- join: X-Scale (i=word@89-180-139-187.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 12:57:58 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 13:09:34 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 13:10:14 that's enough for today 13:10:17 mostly working 13:10:25 just can't click on the saturation choices 13:15:48 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:23:09 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Connection timed out) 13:28:16 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 13:46:02 --- quit: timlarson (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:55:28 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 14:11:12 oop, changed my mind, did more and it's almost finished 14:11:15 here's what I've got so far: 14:11:20 http://home.jasonwoof.org/html/color_picker/ 14:12:40 do you plan on doing any web programming with forth? 14:13:01 no 14:13:08 frisbee time. bbl 14:30:45 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 14:30:45 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 14:46:28 --- join: crc (n=charles@c-68-83-96-46.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:46:36 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 15:01:12 --- join: crest__ (n=crest@p5B1046AF.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:04:23 --- quit: madwork_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:04:49 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 15:17:24 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:18:01 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:20:36 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 15:20:59 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 15:21:38 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:21:56 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 15:24:31 --- quit: X-Scale (Remote closed the connection) 15:30:37 tada 15:34:24 --- join: X-Scale (i=word@89-180-139-187.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 15:40:15 --- quit: timlarson (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:40:27 --- join: timlarson__ (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 15:46:09 --- quit: Maki ("Leaving") 15:47:08 ? 15:47:25 good frisbee game? 15:58:29 we just went to the park and played, didn't actually use the frisbee 15:58:32 juggling mostly 15:59:02 tathi: check out the color picker I'm building: http://home.jasonwoof.org/html/color_picker/ 16:50:29 --- quit: parodyoflanguage (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:02:25 --- join: parodyoflanguage (n=klh@mmds-216-19-34-118.twm.az.commspeed.net) joined #forth 17:02:54 --- part: Baughn left #forth 17:09:43 --- join: MalfermitaKodo (n=kansu@xdsl-78-34-129-97.netcologne.de) joined #forth 17:22:02 --- quit: Malfermi1aKodo (Connection timed out) 17:30:07 JasonWoof: the color picker box just shows up gray on my laptop 17:30:14 seems to work just fine though 17:30:29 huh 17:30:34 I'm moving files around right now 17:30:37 probably why 17:30:43 try colorpicker.html 17:30:46 oops 17:30:50 color_picker.html 17:31:49 I was. 17:31:54 Ah, reloaded, now it works. 17:32:10 That's pretty cool. 17:32:20 I just moved the images, and renamed the the other files, and you probably loaded it while I was updating the css 17:32:30 I looked all over the web for something like this 17:32:47 only really crappy thing is that I can't reliably get mouse coordinates on a page that scrolls 17:33:02 so I decided to make it into a popup 17:33:32 and I have no idea how to get mouse coordinates for something that isn't absolutely positioned, since the mouse coordinates you get are relative to the window 17:35:33 Wow. That's incredibly stupid. 17:36:40 And javascript has no way to get the coordinates of relatively positioned items? 17:37:00 javascript is weird 17:37:41 there may be some way to find out where your relative items are 17:38:01 you have to use a browser sniffer just to guess where the click was relative to the document 17:38:13 --- quit: Al2O3 (Remote closed the connection) 17:38:28 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:38:39 Oh, I see, just looked through the log. 17:45:36 grrr 18:01:02 ahh 18:01:05 much better 18:01:28 got it working with a popup from index.html 18:07:55 huh. funny the things that do and don't get a response on comp.lang.forth. 18:08:40 if you agree you don't need to post a response right? 18:09:07 hehe 18:09:35 what's funny about it? 18:09:44 (I've still not ever looked through clf) 18:09:51 it's very true 18:10:26 I posted the code for my new tester yesterday, and not one response. 18:10:45 unit testing? 18:10:51 But there's always some endless discussion about what is or isn't wrong with Forth and why it is or isn't dead. 18:10:59 yeah 18:11:17 do or say something stupid, that'll probably get a response 18:11:41 I sort of expected someone to at least point out why they didn't need such a thing. 18:11:51 hehe 18:11:59 --- quit: parodyoflanguage () 18:12:15 I guess I'm still thinking of it as a Forth community and not as a debate club. 18:18:01 mmm 18:40:00 ok, think I'm done for today 18:40:32 http://home.jasonwoof.org/html/color_picker/ 18:40:45 it pops up dialogs, it pre-loads them with the correct color, and all that 18:40:55 trouble is, I feel the saturation bar is not immediately obvious 18:41:09 great when it starts all the way down, as with the foreground color 18:41:15 but confusing when you start with white 18:41:23 since clicking on the hues does nothing 18:41:39 should I reset the saturation bar all the way down whenever there's a click on the hues? 18:42:01 --- join: Quartus` (n=Quartus`@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 18:42:04 most color pickers just leave it up, don't they? 18:42:07 should I try putting a semi-transparent overlay over the hues that whitens them? 18:42:18 dunno 18:42:26 gimp doesn't have this type of picker 18:42:34 I should look at inkscape 18:52:54 --- quit: tathi ("goodnight all") 18:53:33 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:59:56 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 19:09:57 --- quit: Quartus` (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:18:34 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:25:14 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:39:38 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:45:02 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 20:00:40 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:06:13 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:23:45 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:30:52 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:46:47 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:53:10 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:39:51 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:46:42 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 22:56:52 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.04.05