00:00:00 --- log: started forth/08.02.27 00:00:21 --- quit: forther_ ("Leaving") 00:18:44 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@140.78.42.150) joined #forth 00:49:07 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 01:48:28 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:16:33 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:08:28 --- quit: sauvin (Remote closed the connection) 04:36:34 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124-121-210-185.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 05:28:34 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 06:05:54 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@p9120-adsau17honb13-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp) joined #forth 07:00:18 --- quit: proteusguy (Connection timed out) 07:06:26 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124-120-216-180.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 07:18:30 --- join: sexi (n=sexi@195.50.133.186) joined #forth 07:41:34 --- part: sexi left #forth 07:50:45 --- join: sexi (n=sexi@195.50.133.186) joined #forth 07:58:18 --- part: sexi left #forth 08:01:11 --- quit: proteusguy (Connection timed out) 08:06:04 --- join: sexi (n=sexi@195.50.133.186) joined #forth 09:14:38 --- join: forther_ (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 09:21:23 --- join: osh (i=74081307@206.172.95.17) joined #forth 09:24:44 --- part: osh left #forth 09:29:26 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-6c57c1ae2a8cb37f) joined #forth 09:59:50 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.140) joined #forth 10:10:55 --- join: tgunr (n=davec@70-41-219-155.cust.wildblue.net) joined #forth 10:41:40 --- join: JasonWoof (n=JasonWoo@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 10:41:40 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:53:24 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124-120-219-234.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 10:57:57 --- quit: Al2O3 (Remote closed the connection) 10:59:43 --- quit: slava (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:06:01 --- join: slava (n=slava@li13-154.members.linode.com) joined #forth 11:06:11 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 11:29:13 --- join: Bushmills (n=nl@verhau.de) joined #forth 11:29:18 g'day 11:29:23 slava: ping 11:39:46 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@205.205.50.1) joined #forth 11:41:28 --- quit: ramkrsna (Remote closed the connection) 11:47:06 for a good time: mplayer /usr/share/sounds/*.wav 11:47:29 might need KDE installed for the full effect 11:48:07 mplayer $(locate wav|grep wav$) ? 11:50:32 I don't want that much of my time to be "good" 11:50:56 I'm running an icecast server with some noise on 11:51:10 ahh, so you need tricks like that ;) 11:51:12 no noise no fun 11:51:22 is the name of it 12:03:07 --- join: GoNoGo (n=GoNoGo@cro34-3-82-236-93-215.fbx.proxad.net) joined #forth 12:22:42 --- join: neceve (n=ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 12:35:52 --- join: ncv (n=ncv@dyn-85.204.187.200.tm.upcnet.ro) joined #forth 12:36:00 --- quit: ncv (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:36:55 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@plc9-214.linzag.net) joined #forth 12:43:39 --- join: slava_ (n=slava@li13-154.members.linode.com) joined #forth 12:43:39 --- quit: slava_ (Client Quit) 12:43:58 Bushmills: pong 12:45:09 hi slava. I just found out that the initiator of the efte editor project on which I am busy too ... knows factor .. and knows you too ... 12:45:27 thought you might like to hear that 12:45:53 everyone knows slava 12:45:58 you were answering his many questions he had about factor, and stack programming in general 12:46:05 about one year ago 12:46:30 jeremy_c ... name rings a bell? 12:46:50 yeah 12:47:25 us two are the main activists on efte atm 12:48:10 (just got a does> - mimicking construct working) 12:49:55 so you have some role in this project coming together too ... because of factor, jeremy wasn't opposed as a matter of principle to RPN 12:49:59 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:50:05 heh 12:50:13 doe> isnt the most efficient way of doing things like that btw, its just easier in source. i prefer ;code and ;uses 12:50:22 which does> makes use of too.. 12:50:47 : contant create , does @ ; or : constant create , ;uses doconstant ; 12:50:49 I440r: this is for editor macros. no ;code or anything like it. 12:50:53 as an example 12:51:01 bush i know ;) 12:51:12 im just waffling 12:51:30 and this does is implemented in a very adventurous way. 12:51:33 hehe 12:51:37 errr : constant create , does>.. .. even 12:51:52 looks like this: 12:52:05 sub array { here swap allot does + } 12:52:16 sub myarray { 10 array new } 12:52:34 { ... 5 myarray @ .... 2 myarray ! .... } 12:53:45 in case you want to have a look at out progress, there is an #efte channel in this irc net 12:53:51 our 12:54:10 and who knows, maybe eventually that editor comes just natural to you 12:54:28 it is a full feature editor. 12:54:47 fte insired a few features in jedit 12:54:47 was just lacking powerful macros 12:55:02 fte had just sequential execution 12:55:13 and that is what we are tackling. 12:55:50 it also loads plain text config files now. no need to convert to binary config first. 12:56:10 i liked fte's folding and added similar features to jedit 12:56:22 of course we kept those :) 12:58:01 atm efte is probably the most full-feature programmers' editor with the most forth-like script language around. 12:58:32 does it still run on os/2? :-) 12:58:36 yes 12:58:42 wow 12:58:49 we have a developer on board who actively uses os/2 12:59:19 but no msdos... 13:00:25 therefore, OS/X 13:00:37 and Solaris 13:02:08 not sure about NCR and SCO status now 13:02:34 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 13:02:34 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 13:44:36 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 13:51:18 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 14:09:45 --- quit: GoNoGo ("ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]") 14:11:34 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 14:11:40 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@189.25.172.112) joined #forth 14:13:22 --- quit: JasonWoof ("Leaving.") 15:02:51 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:09:27 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5B104C4E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:19:54 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-059-100-196.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 15:20:13 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:27:45 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15:27:48 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 16:02:49 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@210.188.173.246) joined #forth 16:26:13 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 16:27:54 --- part: edrx left #forth 16:56:57 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:11:44 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 17:55:27 Hi. 17:56:41 Hi! 17:56:58 How goes it? 17:57:24 hi Quartus 17:57:29 Hey timlarson. 17:57:40 do you know a good alternative to Friendly Plastic? 17:57:54 I thought you might given some of your interests 17:58:13 Another brand of the same stuff, you mean? 17:58:45 well, I know of the names Friendly Plastic, Polymorph, and Shapelock 17:58:55 Those are the three I know, too. 17:59:04 What are you making? 17:59:10 but are there others (to help with googling) or other products with similar properties? 17:59:15 Quartus, it goes great! I have frozen off the thing that used to serve me as a face, and now I'm about to shove some dinner into the resulting hole. 17:59:20 How about you? 17:59:33 gnomon -- not too bad, thanks! 17:59:37 I am getting ready to do some fluid dynamics experiments 18:00:04 and am looking for a way to make some solid shapes with compound curvature, 18:00:27 which I can modify easily to experiment with how it affects the flow. 18:00:39 timlarson -- as far as I know those three brand names are the only ones, and it's all the same stuff. 18:01:34 is that what you would recommend using, or something else? 18:01:45 Depends on the shapes you want to make. 18:02:41 And the properties of the resulting objects. 18:02:42 compound curvature with such shapes as (approximately) hyperbolic and logarithmic curves and spirals. 18:02:57 Big shapes? 18:03:09 measured in fractional inches to several inches. 18:03:18 I'd probably use apoxy putty. 18:04:23 would that mean making multiple instances rather than incremental modifications? 18:04:24 Apoxy Sculpt, I think is the brand (can't see the cans from here). Two part stuff; non-toxic. You knead it together, and can shape it for awhile. Hardens like stone, and can be worked, sanded, etc. afterward. 18:04:47 You can add more to a finished piece. 18:05:06 add more and sand off, ok 18:06:25 how would you go abount making a surface of this electrically conductive? 18:06:33 s/about 18:06:53 Conductive paint. 18:07:18 thanks for the pointers 18:07:34 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096621269.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 18:07:42 Sure. It may be that it isn't the best road to Rome, but it'd be my first attempt at ti. 18:09:13 you think the properties of the Apoxy Sculpt would be better than the low temp thermoplastic, or just easier/cheaper to get ahold of? 18:09:31 Certainly cheaper, easier to work, easier to paint. 18:09:45 ok, good to know 18:10:15 The stuff is pretty handy. 18:10:32 likely to be found at a hardware store, hobby store, craft store, or where? 18:10:49 Hobby/craft store. 18:11:01 k, I will check in my area 18:12:03 milliput, was another brand for the same stuff that I used to use 18:12:17 thanks 18:12:19 Milliput is different stuff. It comes in a tube, and it's toxic. 18:12:33 Apoxy Sculpt is two tubs -- one smells like food, the other doesn't. Non-toxic. 18:13:04 I like non-toxic, both for me and because I have little 4 kids in the house. 18:13:11 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:13:20 what I remember as milliput was a 2-part epoxy, both pieces clay-like 18:13:46 it was expensive though 18:13:52 Oh hang on, you're right. I have some milliput here. It's an epoxy, to be sure. It's quite expensive. Green/white. 18:14:03 I see my typing grammar is having issues, oh well. 18:14:10 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5B104C4E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 18:14:29 little 4 -> 4 little 18:14:30 Apoxy Sculpt is superior stuff. It cures astonishingly hard. 18:15:17 does the Apoxy Sculpt do well when thin (e.g. edge of a thin fin) ? 18:15:26 * aspect files that away in case I ever need to do underwater repairs to high-pressure pipes 18:15:29 it can be sanded to a very fine edge. 18:16:03 and it can withstand a vacuum? 18:16:07 Never tested that. 18:16:13 Wouldn't surprise me, though. 18:16:26 if it's stronger than milliput, I'd be shocked if it couldn't 18:16:36 The stuff is stronger than dirt. 18:16:37 just mix thoroughly 18:18:19 With a long enough lever, you can move the world. With enough JB Weld, you can put it back together after you've cracked it. 18:18:52 --- nick: TreyB_ -> TreyB 18:18:53 JB Weld is ok for some things, but Apoxy Sculpt adheres better to a broader ranger of materials. 18:19:22 Interesting. 18:19:57 sounds very good: http://www.makezine.com/pub/tool/Apoxy_Sculpt 18:22:05 Comes in a bunch o' colours, too 18:29:47 --- quit: forther_ ("Leaving") 18:30:29 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@189.25.172.112) joined #forth 18:31:26 --- quit: edrx (Remote closed the connection) 18:35:21 *sigh* Time for more disk space: 18:35:23 Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on 18:35:23 /dev/mapper/vg-media 2.0T 1.9T 61G 97% /media 18:45:40 --- join: LOOP-HOG (n=jasondam@c-76-105-172-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #forth 18:48:17 any news? 18:50:20 --- quit: LOOP-HOG (Client Quit) 20:26:33 --- quit: proteusguy (Connection timed out) 20:27:34 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124-120-217-92.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 21:50:42 --- quit: proteusguy (Connection timed out) 22:08:54 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124-120-226-45.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 22:11:08 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 101 (Network is unreachable)) 23:14:22 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5B10547C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 23:25:28 --- quit: proteusguy (Connection timed out) 23:26:36 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124-120-226-45.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 23:31:42 --- join: sauvin (n=sauvin@c-98-213-64-53.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:34:21 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-76-120-54-133.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:46:35 --- join: ramkrsna (n=ramkrsna@unaffiliated/ramkrsna) joined #forth 23:47:22 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@140.78.42.150) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/08.02.27