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set +o tathi 14:28:56 tathi: sup 14:29:50 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 14:30:18 hey slava 14:30:33 not so much...how's by you? 14:30:42 have a good vacation? 14:32:08 i'm still on vacation :) 14:32:17 went snorkeling today 14:32:30 had to get up at 6am for that... now i'm just relaxing and reading my email :) 14:32:53 where are you? 14:32:59 dominican republic 14:33:02 sweet 14:33:12 very 14:33:21 oh, very nice :) 15:02:17 --- quit: mrsbrisby (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:24:46 --- join: arke (n=arke@p54A7CE43.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:24:46 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 15:38:11 --- join: tgunr (n=davec@70-41-240-186.cust.wildblue.net) joined #forth 16:06:39 --- join: erider__ (n=chatzill@dialup-200-112-207-177.scbbs-bo.com) joined #forth 16:23:40 --- quit: erider (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 16:29:14 --- join: Deformative (n=joe@c-68-61-240-49.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:40:00 --- join: chatralias (n=Ray_stma@c-76-120-22-110.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:46:38 Hi Ray. 16:52:36 Hello, Quartus. I hope you had a pleasant, peaceful, holiday. 16:52:46 Thanks! Hope yours was too. 16:52:55 'twas. 16:55:28 hi ray :) 16:55:51 hi Ray 16:56:15 Hello timlarson. Nice to see you. I hope your holiday was peaceful as well. 16:56:27 yes, it went well 16:56:45 crc. :) your holiday went well too? 16:56:49 the kids loved the remote control trainset 16:56:55 neat! 16:57:08 I love that kind of thing. 16:57:13 chatralias, yes 16:57:27 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 16:57:51 Nan says hello to all. 16:58:11 say hi back for me 16:58:15 did :) 16:58:55 I miss ya'll, miss being here regularly. 16:59:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 16:59:17 What keeps you away? 16:59:18 you are free to wander by 17:00:01 I suppose it's my medication. My closest Texan friends wouldn't recognise me. I don't do anything like I used to. I don't enjoy doing the things I once enjoyed. 17:00:17 Shame. 17:00:38 Nan had said that I'd been out of here for a while and so I joined. 17:01:15 I was just thinking about you today...about an hour ago, hoping you would show up tonight, and here you are :) 17:01:23 Today, I'm not able to hold down any food. 17:01:45 Sounds like you're on strong stuff. 17:06:13 lol, timlarson, I've developed a sensitivity to that kind of co-incidence boardering on some sort of circumstancial ... what?... superstition? My brother needed Chianti for Christmas dinner to go off with out a hitch. I brought it with out communication. There are several moire boring examples that I could rattle off, but you get the point. :) 17:06:33 :) 17:08:19 what have you been up to? do you have interests that have replaced your previous interests? 17:08:20 I got Nan one of those turntables that has the CDwriter onboard. Antique look with stand... 17:09:07 And we are converting her 78's to CD. She litterally has hundereds and hundreds of pounds of 78's. I know, I moved em. lol 17:09:41 heh 17:09:52 gotta preserve all the clicks and pops 17:10:13 Remember that writable CDs aren't forever; might want to back up copies of them to hard drive 17:10:56 Tim, I seem to be doing one of 3 things lately. Driving a family member or one of their friends around in the snow. Sleeping. Thinking. Of the same crap. over and over and over... ad nauseum. 17:11:05 Great tip, thanks Quartus! :) 17:12:19 chatralias: bf computation machines? :D 17:12:25 chatralias: or more boring stuff? 17:12:57 even more boring then that. lol 17:13:17 one of the things is Greg Shorthand. I keep writing in shorthand. 17:13:37 arke Nan says hello and How was Christmas? 17:13:52 arke says Hi Nan, good, how about yours? :) 17:14:03 ah greg shorthand 17:14:08 lol was thinking of using glypher to program in shorthand. 17:14:16 you talked about that 17:15:09 i meant to investigate, completely forgot >_< 17:15:48 arke NanSays: It was good. :) 17:15:58 yay :) 17:16:27 I got a bunch of money from the house, and I'm looking for ways to make it make more money on it's own. 17:17:07 I thought I'd record myself playing the Tabs on the web and let people join a onetime fee access site? 17:17:42 You know, case you wanna learn how to play from how it looks. I'd do several cuts per song breaking it down to make it easy. 17:17:50 I am working on an editor (tui and gui versions) to allow editing structured data, such as structured source code. 17:18:02 neat! 17:27:25 what language tim? 17:28:02 coding in C 17:28:11 but this project has several parts 17:28:16 the browser/editor 17:28:29 I spent way too much time looking for a crossover cable to connect another computer to this one. 17:28:41 a multi-mini-paradigm language (good parts of the stack-based and list-based parts are made) 17:28:58 and various storage/query systems being experimented with. 17:29:05 chatralias: why not simply use a router? 17:29:21 chatralias: (actually, didn't you have one already? I don't remember) 17:29:32 I don't have one. :( 17:29:34 when the language parts are further along some/all of the C will be converted 17:29:39 atleast I don't think so... 17:29:42 chatralias, cheap. $20 for a hub 17:29:44 or less 17:30:19 Quartus: I agree, and that is why i didn't spend more then that on anything I found locally. All way too expensive. 17:30:36 I'll find something online, pay freight, and be more the miser. 17:30:40 hehe 17:30:47 waste of Gas? ya... 17:30:49 colorado is so much cheaper than CA it's not even funny 17:30:50 crossovers often cost more than regular cables, and then you have to muck about with the communications 17:31:05 but seriously I think i remember you having a router 17:31:09 hmmm. 17:31:13 cable? dsl? 17:31:19 think it was the neighbors. 17:31:23 cable. 17:31:27 integrated into the cable modem 17:31:32 the cable modem has ports? 17:31:32 if I remember correctly 17:31:48 yeah, easiest check (all ray has to do is lean over to look :)) 17:32:17 Your choise of network or usb. Either or. Not both. 17:32:24 only one. 17:32:40 ah. 17:32:47 parts of the C code look more like a c-syntax of lisp 17:32:52 there's more computers in here now. I'm surrounded. 17:33:20 chatralias: and where do you sleep? :) 17:33:28 chatralias: or is it in another room now? 17:33:36 you must like EM radiation ;) 17:33:41 lol 17:33:45 hehe 17:34:00 maybe the EM is interacting with the meds? 17:34:06 lol 17:34:33 which reminds me, I should take some pseudophed, or whatever they call it 17:34:46 hub is the best idea sofar, thanks Quartus. points for thinking ahead for expansion. 17:35:09 * chatralias gives up on the patch cord idea. 17:35:16 chord even. 17:36:28 I have a 25 foot chord. I 'could' rewire it... 17:37:13 that'll stretch across the entire apartment and back :D 17:37:27 oh, foot, not meters >_< 17:37:29 nevermind :D 17:37:37 Twice. And still have room to hang yourself. :) 17:38:06 that depends on the circumference of your neck 17:38:17 unless you were thinking by your thumbnails 17:38:32 * chatralias = pencil neck geek active cardholding member emeritus. 17:38:48 I can confirm that. :) 17:38:52 lol 17:39:35 With gold clusters. 17:42:29 random neat site to share: http://amasci.com/ 17:42:46 bring your own salt and enjoy :) 17:43:02 I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what the heck Steven Hawking meant when he anounced he had an answer to the "Nut-uh, you don't really lose the information when the information disappears into the black hole that evaporates and leaves no information". He said that the information is saved in a parallel universe where it would be improblable that the same information would be lost to a black hole. 17:43:32 or, that's what I think he said. 17:45:38 Now, that being said... 17:46:18 Can I get my old harddrive back from a "parallel U" harddrive? 17:47:27 Even theoretically? 17:47:44 it is hard to reach through a black hole to get it 17:50:00 it just takes so long to reach the event horizon ;) 17:50:15 I'm confused, because i've never really quite got the connection between "thru a black hole" and that somehow being the way to connect parallel universes. 17:50:47 I think that connection is...tenuous at best 17:50:51 lol I like that one timlarson :) 17:51:33 A parallel universe is just that. Closer to you then your shirt. 17:51:53 farther away then God. 17:52:06 well, that's not right. 17:52:12 that's the opposite. 17:59:18 I wonder what's eaiser. Going back in time to when my harddrive was right, or going to a parallel harddrive that is as close to my harddrive as my harddrive is only that it contains the correct information at this very moment. 18:01:25 taking an occasional backup is probably easiest. 18:01:37 * arke falls off the chair 18:01:40 Again! tip. 18:01:40 :D 18:01:43 lol 18:02:09 * chatralias saw... Jesus Saves, Budda does incremental backups. 18:03:02 jesus saves, passes to moses, SCOOOOREEE 18:03:17 ...and evolution preserves by mutation 18:03:22 Goooooaaaaaaaal 18:04:47 Dna is a weird form of backup. 18:04:57 2% of it is relevant 18:04:57 Chemical backup. 18:05:01 98% of it is junk 18:05:07 6% of the junk used to be relevant 18:06:33 sheesh, 10 minutes to rebuild all dependencies 18:06:40 yum. 18:06:56 that "junk" is probably a database of partially tested variations to be used when the environment changes. 18:07:02 of those 10, 7 are in C and 3 are in C++ 18:07:06 which took the longest? ;) 18:07:29 the 3 C++ projects took individually probably about as long as all 7 C projects together to compile 18:07:33 >_< 18:07:45 really. 18:07:50 what is it? 18:08:09 what are the projects, I mean? 18:08:32 it's begining to look a lot like pizza... 18:09:28 starting on an entirely new codebase of an OSS game 18:09:38 (knowing myself, I'll put in about 5 hours worth of work then forget it) 18:09:40 Friday routine is to wait as long as possible to take something out of the fridge for dinner hopping someone will cave and suggest pizza. 18:09:53 haha 18:10:14 I'll suggest pizza :) 18:10:25 pizza is popular here, Deb loves it. 18:10:46 just had some reheated tonight 18:11:29 As often as I've been warned against it, dayoldcold pizza is a top ten breakfast item. 18:11:41 that's the best possible breakfast 18:11:43 cold pizza 18:11:43 :D 18:12:40 cold pizza is the breakfast of the gods 18:13:03 when god rested on sunday, he had cold pizza from the night before for breakfast 18:13:19 lol. 18:13:37 and to think I had the priviledge of delivering pizzas for 2 years :) 18:13:55 pizza delivery - fun job :) 18:14:01 yeah, I liked it 18:14:12 It was so good to God, that he was tortured to share it until some how a lousy version of it was leaked to drive-in theaters. 18:15:14 Eventually, American cities would claim best pizza but we all know that the best pizza is the piece going into your mouth. 18:15:30 haha 18:15:31 yep :D 18:17:09 We know now that it was Satan that allowed lousy pizza to clog up the tire treads of 50s-70's automobiles while children begat children behind foggy windows. 18:17:25 I'm not ready to mix Judeo-Christian mythology with pizza. 18:17:42 I prefer my toppings untransubstatiated. 18:17:57 the "of the gods" parts sounded more Greek 18:18:07 Will you fungus? On a pizza? 18:18:51 Some will not. Nan must. It is her single item choise when money is tight. 18:19:03 cheese pizza ftw 18:19:30 cheese, then pepperoni, then bannan peppers, then supreme 18:19:58 unsubterrainian pizza. no shrooms dude. 18:20:43 shrooms <3 18:20:56 cheese and shrooms 18:21:05 that 18:21:12 's Nan's/ 18:21:17 I still kiss her. :) 18:22:08 altho I do like them when they are part of a pizza, just not the feature. 18:24:00 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:28:40 crc still here? hows sugar control? 18:30:24 * arke goes to bed. Good night :) 18:30:24 sugar is normally below 200 now 18:30:51 Gn arke. 18:31:06 Well done crc! 18:31:37 easy to control? sticking to a diet? 18:33:05 my diet has improved, and I take medication twice a day to keep it down 18:33:22 to keep it down? 18:33:24 I'm still higher than I should be, so my medication may be changed in January 18:33:30 to keep the blood sugar down 18:33:40 oh to keep sugar down ya, what? 500 mg Metformin? 18:33:42 if I don't take the meds, it'll be over 300 18:33:49 yeah, 500mg twice a day 18:33:50 yikes. 18:34:23 I've been taking the 1000 once a day. 18:34:30 with breakfast. 18:35:49 but I also take a couple more for the neuropathy, one with breakfast and one before bed, because that one, while it doesn't keep my legs from hurting, it does keep me from caring abou t the pain long enough to get to sleep. 18:36:28 :( 18:36:31 but I suspect that one also keeps me from careing about much else as well. 18:36:40 I see my doc on the 2nd. 18:37:32 I havn't taken it since Christmas ( forgot to take them with me to brothers, then just omitted since) and now I'm back on the web even. 18:37:56 Scary, right? lol :) 18:38:10 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:38:50 so your interest in activities might be picking up? 18:39:05 due to lack of suppression 18:39:16 I suppose so. :) I do want to try to make a dime some how. 18:48:50 * chatralias is looking for an economical 4wd, second hand. 19:00:06 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote closed the connection) 19:01:48 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201-43-185-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined #forth 19:02:44 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 19:04:32 --- join: arke_ (n=arke@p54A7FBE2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 19:05:17 --- quit: edrx (Remote closed the connection) 19:06:10 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201-43-185-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined #forth 19:20:59 --- quit: timlarson (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:21:41 --- part: chatralias left #forth 19:21:45 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 19:22:38 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:48:46 --- quit: edrx (Remote closed the connection) 19:55:26 --- quit: nighty^ (Remote closed the connection) 19:56:52 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 20:00:16 --- quit: madgarden (SendQ exceeded) 20:00:37 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096752101.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 20:13:35 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 20:24:28 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201-43-185-157.dsl.telesp.net.br) joined #forth 20:25:29 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 20:26:02 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 20:55:44 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124.120.220.58.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 20:57:55 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:58:16 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@d206-116-76-51.bchsia.telus.net) joined #forth 22:24:35 --- quit: omg911 (Remote closed the connection) 23:01:37 --- part: edrx left #forth 23:56:18 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.12.28