00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.12.02 01:41:57 --- join: doublec (n=doublec@203-211-106-97.ue.woosh.co.nz) joined #forth 01:50:42 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:51:02 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 01:51:02 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 02:14:42 --- quit: doublec () 02:54:49 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-088-068-221-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 03:03:00 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03:03:25 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 03:51:34 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:51:55 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 03:51:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 06:21:09 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:36:24 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 06:49:03 --- quit: nighty__ (No route to host) 07:08:14 --- quit: ncv (Remote closed the connection) 07:24:24 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:25:10 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@7.sub-75-202-47.myvzw.com) joined #forth 09:54:44 --- join: manic12_ (n=manic12_@c-71-194-18-28.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:02:09 --- join: neceve (n=ncv@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 10:13:47 --- quit: manic12_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:18:30 --- join: manic12_ (n=manic12_@71.194.18.28) joined #forth 10:34:17 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 10:38:44 --- quit: manic12_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:43:23 --- join: manic12_ (n=manic12_@71.194.18.28) joined #forth 10:45:20 --- join: manic12__ (n=manic12_@71.194.18.28) joined #forth 10:46:38 --- quit: nighty^ (No route to host) 11:00:14 --- join: manic12 (n=manic12@71.194.18.28) joined #forth 11:03:43 --- quit: manic12_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:04:15 --- quit: manic12__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:18:30 --- quit: manic12 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:53:17 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:33:27 forth time! 12:34:45 --- join: manic12 (n=manic12@71.194.18.28) joined #forth 12:37:44 --- quit: manic12 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:10:29 hammer time! 13:12:05 :) 13:12:22 "If I were a carpenter I'd hammer on my piglet 13:12:39 I'd collect the 7 dolars and I'd buy a big prosthetic forhead and wear it on my real head." -- TMBG 13:16:26 ok, built my first keybinding table with my now table code 13:37:27 man, people can be such assholes 13:37:58 I'm not big on people accusing me of being moody 13:38:22 this kid who I don't know is asking me to test yet another website he's building 13:39:00 I say that I don't really understand our relationship and "seems like you're calling in favors, but I don't think I owe you any" 13:39:14 to which he responds "ok...someone is obviously not in a good mood" 13:39:39 was I being impolite? 13:40:01 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:40:17 --- join: neceve (n=ncv@dyn-85.186.138.32.tm.upcnet.ro) joined #forth 13:41:13 I really don't understand his expectation that since I'm a professional web developer that I'd want to test his sites and give him feedback for free 13:41:18 we even had a discussion about that 13:41:23 and how consulting is very expensive 13:41:39 which as a professional architect he totally understood 13:41:44 then he called me moody again 13:42:38 maybe if I had some kind of sponsor paying my rent I could spend all day helping random strangers online 13:43:06 but even then, I'd help random people that are doing something I place value and/or interest on 13:43:14 like forth, free software, environment, etc 13:43:18 not car parts 13:55:17 --- join: doublec (n=doublec@202.0.36.64) joined #forth 13:56:47 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 13:56:47 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 14:24:18 JasonWoof, it happens all the time, I think. 14:26:34 --- join: Quartus___ (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 14:27:18 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 14:27:36 --- join: Quartus____ (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 14:27:46 JasonWoof -- mooching is a way of life for some people. 14:43:54 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:44:04 --- join: aguaithefreak (n=aguaithe@host86-136-132-227.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 14:45:32 --- quit: Quartus___ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:45:38 --- quit: Quartus____ () 14:45:55 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 14:45:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 15:08:19 --- join: manic12 (n=manic12@c-71-194-18-28.hsd1.il.comcast.net) joined #forth 15:52:15 --- quit: Quartus () 15:52:28 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:52:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 16:30:44 --- join: Quartus___ (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 16:44:42 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:47:57 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 17:02:42 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:03:35 --- quit: nighty__ (Connection timed out) 17:26:25 --- join: doublec_ (n=doublec@202.0.36.64) joined #forth 17:27:34 --- quit: nighty^ (Client Quit) 17:32:55 --- quit: doublec_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:33:35 --- join: doublec_ (n=doublec@202.0.36.64) joined #forth 17:34:05 --- quit: doublec (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 17:34:18 --- nick: doublec_ -> doublec 17:38:47 Hi. 17:53:25 mooching I understand 17:53:38 but getting pissed at people who say no to your mooching after a while, doesn't 17:53:49 was he trying to manipulate me into doing it? or just piss me off? 17:53:51 well, some people are thick 17:53:55 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@189.25.7.53) joined #forth 17:54:31 well, yeah 17:54:49 sometimes I get curious, and want to understand this world in a little more detail that "people are stupid" 17:54:56 though that certainly suffices sometimes :) 17:55:15 ahh, I feel so much better now 17:55:15 Sometimes you can refine it down to specifically in what way a given person is stupid. 17:55:24 right :) 17:55:45 or I could just get back to my programming 17:55:53 or help make cookies 17:56:00 So many choices. :) 18:04:53 yeah. Think I can get another step closer to a good keybinding system 18:05:14 Soon you will master keybondage. 18:06:11 hehe 18:06:38 I'm thinking of naming this word "word-up" 18:06:53 but might go with the more specific "ed-word-up" 18:07:02 guess that's still funny 18:07:13 You probably had to be there. :) 18:07:56 it's the action for the "up" key(s) when you're working on the level of words 18:08:05 (as apposed to characters, or whole definitions) 18:08:14 ah 18:09:03 I was intelligent enough to make constants for things like "go up" 18:09:20 so I can map keys to the "go up" action, and define what "go up" means for different contexts seperately 18:09:57 so, eg, later when I feel like it I can make the up arrow do the same thing as alt-c, and not have to change the jump table for every mode 18:10:41 so far all I've done is make the table that translates keys to those constants 18:11:18 I still think you should go for the grand event->action FSM 18:16:52 --- join: doublec_ (n=doublec@202.0.36.64) joined #forth 18:25:03 --- quit: doublec (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:32:13 --- nick: doublec_ -> doublec 20:12:17 --- quit: manic12 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:47:45 --- quit: doublec () 20:49:02 the FSM would be sets of (key, action, next state) ? 20:49:30 arranged by the state which that binding applies to 20:49:32 right? 21:07:45 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@ip70-162-227-19.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 21:45:52 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 21:49:57 Quartus___: I have two concerns with the FSM method: 1) I don't know if my editor can handle editing such a thing well at this point 2) I don't always know ahead of time what mode a given keypress will switch to 21:50:12 the "go back" key is a good example 22:20:56 --- part: aguaithefreak left #forth 22:24:49 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 22:43:19 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124.120.229.3.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 23:10:10 --- quit: crc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:11:22 --- join: crc (n=crc@70.110.139.45) joined #forth 23:41:43 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:56:03 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@65.127.79.7) joined #forth 23:56:06 hi 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.12.02