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--- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@158.sub-70-192-230.myvzw.com) joined #forth 15:51:34 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:52:36 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:10:49 forth databases 16:10:54 lets open a discussion 16:13:34 databases written in forth, or just usable from forth, e.g. sqlite? 16:18:21 written in forth 16:18:35 sqlite is usable from forth? 16:18:38 thats interesting 16:18:53 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@250.sub-75-216-83.myvzw.com) joined #forth 16:34:28 Are there any databases written in Forth? 16:40:25 if the forth you are using provides an ffi for calling into a C library then you could use sqlite from forth 16:41:21 it is nice because it is a no-maintenance, single-file database library with no server to setup 16:42:06 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@75-162-103-49.slkc.qwest.net) joined #forth 16:45:30 --- join: Al2O3__ (n=Al2O3@226.sub-70-192-229.myvzw.com) joined #forth 16:49:20 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:50:56 all databases are usable from forth :> 16:51:57 hmm 16:52:11 more power captn!1 16:53:38 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@3.sub-75-216-44.myvzw.com) joined #forth 17:02:01 --- quit: Al2O3 () 17:04:47 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:10:43 --- quit: Al2O3__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:30:32 --- join: slava (n=slava@75-161-181-97.mpls.qwest.net) joined #forth 17:31:56 sup 17:33:12 --- part: edrx left #forth 17:33:19 --- join: forther (n=forther@207.47.34.100.static.nextweb.net) joined #forth 17:38:41 --- join: OrngeTide (i=orange@rm-f.net) joined #forth 17:51:30 --- join: maht_ (n=maht@85.189.31.174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk) joined #forth 18:02:46 --- quit: maht__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:05:20 slava whats up 18:08:28 --- part: renevannt left #forth 18:11:49 --- quit: forther (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:15:48 hacking 18:16:02 --- join: LOOP-HOG (n=jasondam@c-76-105-172-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 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I'll read that now 18:45:38 :^) 18:48:28 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 18:51:49 "I've always known Forth permitted greener computing. This is tangible proof. 18:52:03 24a would as well I think 18:52:09 55millawatts 18:55:17 --- quit: Captain_Thunder (Remote closed the connection) 19:09:00 so, if you have 128 bytes of RAM, and 128 bytes of ROM, then can you get special versions of the forth chip with your words in ROM so that you can use the RAM for data? 19:09:58 128 words times 4 givces 512 because you can cram 4 instructions into a single cell 19:10:42 I have not tried out the VentureForth simulator that was downloadable, does it supply extra Forth words that are macros of the simple primitives? 19:11:27 "Dr. Ting offered some barbeque beef strips and chicken legs to absolutely die for." 19:12:05 Oh oh, I am a vegetarian, If I attended, I would have to decline. Would I be accused of being a C programmer and then ousted from the event? 19:12:06 LOL 19:12:52 Here, I'm going to comb my hair and then use the static electricity to power my Forth chip with. No, wait. I could use a rotting potato to power my Forth chip with 19:15:43 brb 19:21:31 I could use the ambient electricity in my own body to power this thing, could I? 19:22:01 ever hook yourself up to an oscilloscope 19:23:08 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:26:39 --- quit: slava (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:40:17 actually, with thin film CIGS solar panels taking off, you could create a real solar powered computer for cheap 19:40:56 Not relyable enough for me, but I guess there could be a battery backup or such. 19:41:23 like a lithum battery 19:41:33 I suppose it would depend on the application 19:43:26 In my view, the ultimate hardware would be a living, organic, organism. 19:43:42 A "computer" that could grow. 19:43:48 how? 19:43:48 because then it would get old, sick, and die. 19:43:59 True. 19:44:08 a replicant? Roy Batty? 19:44:17 So 'ultimate' in some way that doesn't mean what it actually means. 19:44:22 --- join: arke_ (n=arke@p54A7C133.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 19:44:40 a computer or android that could turn on it's maker and rip it's eyes out, lol 19:45:28 I was thinking more along the lines of a primitive organism, without a brain, no turning. 19:45:37 More like a plant or such. 19:45:50 But yeah, Quartus is right, it would die. 19:46:03 Or get Dutch Elm disease. 19:46:12 In theory, plants don't really have a reason to die. 19:46:28 Well, some plants live thousands of years. 19:46:50 A computer than could multiply and evolve, quickly. :D 19:46:56 some do, many only live a year :] 19:47:13 that would be incrediable 19:47:16 arcus_: Yeah, don't base computers on those. :D 19:48:00 I suppose that it's possible, I mean, scientists just found a way to turn skin cells into what are basically stem cells, biological science is really moving ahead 19:48:27 But our knowledge of dna and stuff is way too premature for that. 19:48:38 Especially our knowledge of stuff. 19:48:49 :D 19:48:54 * Deformative cuddles Quartus 19:49:59 I like that, that was quite likely the best possible response. "Especially our knowledge of stuff." 19:50:58 it sounds like transhumanism 19:52:42 I remember there being a star trek episode where a scientist created a computer using his own brain cells 19:53:22 Hmm, how should I represent colors? 19:53:23 Ansi? 19:53:45 I don't really like ansi. 19:53:46 :/ 19:54:37 represent colors for what? 19:55:11 Similar to 4color9Forth. 19:55:21 How does colorForth do it? 19:56:05 * Deformative googles. 19:56:27 You don't bloody know, do you. You want to make something similar to something else, but you've not even looked at it. 19:56:54 I don't want to make it similar to colorforth, I just want color. 19:58:28 the colors are part of a database. The colorforth code isn't ascii text, it is entrys in a db if I remember correctly 19:58:51 you could just alter the headers of regular Forth and use a few bits to specify a color for a word I suppose 19:59:01 If you have a metacompiler, you can do th 19:59:04 do that 19:59:06 Yeah see, that won't work for me. 20:00:06 what won't work, either the way ColorForth does it, or the metacompiler approach? 20:00:27 Both. 20:00:56 I suppose that if you have control over the GUI, you could scan the current screen and then look up each word on the screen in a table, and then color the screen appropriately 20:01:15 then change the definition of : and other compiler words to add the word to the table 20:01:35 But see, I am not working on a forth. 20:01:43 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:02:00 I don't know then 20:02:14 Interesting concept though. 20:02:29 Sticking the color itself into the dictionary. 20:04:29 I would need to have alot more detail about what you are trying to do 20:04:31 brb 20:05:02 Alright, somewhat offtopic though. 20:05:17 I will /msg you in hopes of not pissing off Quartus further. 20:09:49 --- quit: forther (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:19:17 http://www.moller.com/ 20:19:55 another possiable use for power lightweight and power efficient computers, an array of processors for an onboard flight computer for controlling a skycar 20:20:06 powerful lightweight 20:20:37 moller is a quack. He's been working on those things for, what, 12 years now? 20:20:44 And still has barely managed to get one off the ground. 20:22:04 --- quit: tathi ("And on that note...") 20:24:58 true, I have my doubts myself 20:25:24 if some other company would create something like this, for say a flying ambulance, then it might make sense 20:25:46 LOOP-HOG: did you get my /msg ? 20:25:48 We have flying ambulances. 20:26:47 Deformative, yes I did, didn't you read what I had to say? 20:27:00 I mean flying ambulances which are not heliocopters 20:27:20 What, they should have wings that flap? 20:28:17 no 20:28:21 they should be 20:28:41 they should be VTOLs so that you can set down in a crowded area, and take the person to a hospital 20:29:05 set it down in a place where a heliocopter would have a hard time landing 20:32:06 I once saw a person being taken to a hospital in a a heliocopter, and it needed a fair amount of space to land, and it really kicks up alot of wind when doing so 20:32:18 This was in a camping situation, and thankfully there was room 20:35:20 Why do you think helicopters are universally used for this, instead of VTOLs? 20:36:52 good question 20:37:27 ?? 20:38:18 maybe it's because VTOLs are much more expensive? 20:38:32 I say they should just have enormous cannons on the top of every major building. 20:38:41 and big nets at the hospitals. 20:39:00 EVIL!!!! 20:39:02 lol 20:43:42 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:47:09 which building would have the data stack of patients and which the return stack? 20:47:37 haha. 20:48:42 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 21:09:01 --- join: slava (n=slava@75-161-181-97.mpls.qwest.net) joined #forth 21:17:56 --- quit: doublec () 21:44:02 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:55:49 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 22:06:31 --- quit: Deformative (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:20:30 24a! 22:44:33 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 23:01:08 --- quit: LOOP-HOG () 23:23:58 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 23:35:40 --- join: LOOP-HOG (n=jasondam@c-76-105-172-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:41:32 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:50:43 --- quit: LOOP-HOG () 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.11.20