00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.11.18 00:31:05 --- quit: Raystm2 ("Should have paid the bill.") 01:27:29 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 01:27:35 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 02:19:15 hmmm... maybe I'll switch my server to php5 now 02:46:11 --- quit: Off_Namuh (Success) 03:13:14 --- join: dyganynjya (n=Administ@cpe-76-167-152-135.socal.res.rr.com) joined #forth 03:13:47 anyone alive? 03:19:19 --- join: roxirc (n=Administ@cpe-76-167-152-135.socal.res.rr.com) joined #forth 03:20:11 --- nick: roxirc -> dyganynjah 03:29:33 and kickin! 03:30:21 goin for a walk though 03:36:27 --- quit: dyganynjya (Connection timed out) 03:41:33 nice 03:50:30 --- join: roxirc (n=Administ@cpe-76-167-152-135.socal.res.rr.com) joined #forth 03:52:44 --- nick: roxirc -> dydaninjah 04:05:28 back 04:05:33 sun's coming up 04:05:37 pretty pretty 04:05:40 and drn cold 04:07:54 --- quit: dyganynjah (Connection timed out) 04:08:44 4am 04:08:56 read some jeff fox stuff on forth databases 04:08:58 cool stuff 04:09:41 ahh 7am here 04:10:00 I went to bed wicked early (9pm) 04:10:13 I was out daning with gf 04:10:24 now home puttin on puter 04:11:43 dating? 04:11:52 dancing 04:11:58 ahh 04:12:04 well done :) 04:12:06 pats play today eh 04:12:17 "dining" was going to be my next guess :) 04:12:30 footbal? 04:12:39 ;) 04:14:03 my interest in watching strangers play sports (especially ones that are booring to play, like baseball) is pretty low 04:15:47 well 04:15:58 what are you interested in? 04:16:00 :) 04:20:37 dancing, programming, biking, sex, food, forests, mountains, friendship, play, sillyness 04:21:07 enlightenment, building, inventing, imagining 04:21:38 solving problems, jokes, contact improv, sailing, laughing, hugs 04:21:51 :0 04:21:55 good night 04:21:57 purple, eye contact, art 04:21:59 420am 04:22:04 goodnight :) 04:22:08 --- quit: dydaninjah (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:17:26 --- join: Off_Namuh (i=GPS@gateway/tor/x-bca0859331895252) joined #forth 05:27:05 --- quit: Quartus 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join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@209.sub-70-192-89.myvzw.com) joined #forth 18:39:40 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:49:00 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@0.sub-70-192-99.myvzw.com) joined #forth 18:51:08 --- join: Al2O3__ (n=Al2O3@131.sub-70-192-234.myvzw.com) joined #forth 18:53:25 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:54:25 --- quit: Al2O3__ (Client Quit) 19:13:48 --- quit: Al2O3 (Connection timed out) 19:16:50 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:24:28 this is not a very good lisp, and i think it's not very good forth style, but i still enjoyed it: http://www.complang.tuwien.ac.at/schani/oldstuff/#schemeinforth 19:24:39 is there a better scheme-in-forth? 19:24:58 maybe not more complete, but statically scoped and without deep binding would be nice 19:25:56 --- join: arke_ (n=arke@p54A7CCA4.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 19:43:49 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:53:57 Scheme and forth are pretty incompatible IMO. :/ 19:54:13 Oh, scheme in forth. 19:54:15 Never mind. 19:54:22 I thought you meant a combination. 19:54:24 My bad. 20:02:42 heh 20:03:00 they are pretty incompatible in worldview in some ways 20:03:21 I made my own forth spec that better fits me. 20:03:27 Well, I have it assembled in my head. 20:03:37 I will make a document of it whenever I get around to it. 20:04:51 heh 20:04:57 you should implement it a few times first ;) 20:05:22 or maybe write some application programs in pfe or bigforth or gforth first 20:05:31 and see if you can find ways to live with their weaknesses 20:05:59 Well, I am almost done with my editor. 20:06:02 --- join: saon_ (n=saon@207.138.42.211) joined #forth 20:06:28 So might as well go through and finish it, then if I find a flaw in my own specification, modify it from there. 20:06:46 I don't even know if I will make it public or not. 20:10:36 It uses color a lot. 20:10:48 As part of the language. 20:11:19 Not quite in the same way as chuck more though, he uses it in place of punctuation, I use to actually convey a property to the interpreter. 20:11:27 s/more/moore 20:15:10 in a way, that's what he uses it for too 20:15:17 Yeah. 20:15:21 have you seen GlyphicScript? 20:15:29 it used font for that 20:15:30 I haven't. 20:15:36 it's kind of like a dialect of smalltalk, but not really 20:15:44 Interesting. 20:15:54 an editor is probably a good application to write to feel out a language 20:16:10 i think mark finally got around to open-sourcing it and putting it on his web site 20:18:10 My spec uses green to symbolize a procedure pointer, where red evaluates the procedure, then a number is pushed into the stack, followed by calling an operator that boxes that many values together is used to create new procedures, then that procedure is pushed into the stack, and can be used or defined by another special word that assigns a value in the dictionary. 20:18:22 Well, I am not making the editor in forth. :/ 20:18:41 Maybe I should, but it is a little late along now. 20:18:47 I have already worked on it for several hours. 20:19:00 And it opens files and displays the menus and everything. 20:20:08 I was planning to rewrite the editor after I write the language. 20:20:10 Hmm. 20:20:52 --- nick: saon_ -> saon 20:27:39 cool 20:28:27 I still haven't quite decided how to represent string literals, but that isn't really important quite yet. 20:31:00 i've found that writing a bunch of code that i later throw away is often an extremely effective way to think about things like that 20:31:32 :) 20:32:06 I seem to use code as a storage medium I think, I continue coding until I finish the program in my head, once it is finished in my head, I rarely care enough to finish it in code. 20:32:24 i have that disease sometime too. it sucks. 20:33:11 usually when i actually do finish it in code, i learn that the version in my head wasn't quite right. 20:33:13 Leonardo Davinci did the same thing with his paintings until he started the Mona Lisa. 20:33:34 and actually there are a lot of details that only actually come out when i write the code for real. 20:33:36 Then he never finished the Mona Lisa, a constant work. 20:33:44 but it could be that you're just smarter than i am and don't have that problem 20:34:25 I doubt I am smarter, we prolly just think differently. 20:34:38 Most people see me as stupid, writing useless code. 20:34:39 * Deformative shrugs. 20:35:34 oh, i've written lots of useless code ;) 20:35:39 i have a whole mailing list devoted mostly to that 20:35:48 although occasionally i post useful code to it instead 20:36:21 Sometimes I wish I could stay interested, just a little bit longer, long enough to make a record of it, that way I have a backlog to see all my past work. 20:36:40 But I usually just forget that it will come back to haunt me, and rm -r it. 20:36:43 D: 20:38:00 oh, that's too bad 20:38:19 you should share it with other people, so they can tell you what's wrong with it and what's interesting about it 20:38:29 That, or, I keep putting it off, I want to put it in svn, but I say "Oh, I will do it later" and I forget where I had it when I finally get around to putting it in svn. 20:38:39 Or that computer gets reformatted or something lame like that. 20:39:34 That is a good idea, except I am too obsessed with making it to think about that. 20:39:41 Sigh. 20:40:06 Which reminds me... I have svn commits to make on 3 different computers. 20:40:08 Fuck... 20:40:37 * Deformative puts it on urgent in his organizer. 20:42:12 Which of course, means it will never get done! ;D 20:45:58 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 20:45:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 20:46:37 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 20:50:18 Well, Imma sleep now, talk to you later. 20:53:12 night. 20:53:44 too obsessed with making the programs? 21:12:00 --- join: Quartus___ (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 21:25:37 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:29:12 --- quit: doublec () 21:31:42 --- quit: Quartus___ () 21:31:55 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 21:31:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 22:11:36 --- join: Quartus___ (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 22:26:10 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:38:22 --- join: doublec (n=doublec@203-211-86-55.ue.woosh.co.nz) joined #forth 23:06:25 --- quit: doublec () 23:06:30 --- part: saon left #forth 23:10:03 --- quit: Quartus___ () 23:10:15 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 23:10:15 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 23:45:52 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:49:09 --- quit: Off_Namuh (Remote closed the connection) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.11.18