00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.11.12 00:27:53 --- quit: Quartus (Remote closed the connection) 00:28:07 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 00:28:07 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 00:56:34 --- join: CyberKid (i=HydraIRC@c-68-63-244-236.hsd1.ky.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:11:31 --- quit: CyberSpace (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:11:31 --- nick: CyberKid -> CyberSpace 01:24:41 --- join: H4ns (n=hans@p57BBBD60.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 01:58:43 --- quit: H4ns ("Leaving.") 01:59:54 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-099-194.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 02:32:11 --- join: ccfg_ (n=pitkajus@tuomi.oulu.fi) joined #forth 02:46:38 --- quit: ccfg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:57:54 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@c-75-70-5-69.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 03:22:30 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:52:30 --- quit: ygrek (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:53:21 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-3b8b1102490eb6df) joined #forth 05:07:18 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@189.25.49.43) joined #forth 05:09:57 --- join: iano (n=iosgood@sub26-46.member.dsl-only.net) joined #forth 05:38:23 man, the paypal website is really horrid 05:38:33 I haven't been this frustrated in a long time 05:45:09 whatcha ordering? an xo-1? 05:53:14 --- part: edrx left #forth 06:01:21 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 06:04:15 I'm making a payment page 06:04:33 the forms they have to generate the HTML for you are infuriating 06:05:38 oh, as a vendor 06:06:02 eventually I found the technical manuals and my life became much more pleasant 06:17:05 --- nick: ccfg_ -> ccfg 08:07:12 --- quit: timlarson (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:09:22 ? 08:09:48 paypal was bought by payflow of some craziness 08:38:41 this recent? 08:38:47 I thought they were bought by ebay 08:38:58 er 08:39:32 payflow and ...er ... verisign oops 08:39:54 thier tek support has a guy named atul, who was a major tool 08:40:12 took me 3 weeks to get him to admit they had bad member of a cluster on thier end 08:54:05 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:54:25 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 08:54:25 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 08:56:36 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489C0D2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:05:22 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:11:54 --- quit: crest__ (Connection timed out) 09:16:10 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM000f9f776f96.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 09:18:29 --- quit: madwork ("?OUT OF DATA ERROR") 09:18:57 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 09:28:06 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:30:13 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 09:50:54 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 09:56:31 --- join: crest__ (n=crest@p5489C085.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 10:02:49 --- quit: crest_ (No route to host) 10:33:37 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 10:35:09 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 10:35:37 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-d568b378b874c94f) joined #forth 10:37:37 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 10:38:46 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-2aec00f7b4f1fa15) joined #forth 10:40:00 --- quit: Quartus__ ("used jmIrc") 10:40:15 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 11:18:13 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-118-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:18:46 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 11:18:54 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 11:20:12 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@189.25.207.172) joined #forth 11:21:59 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 11:32:36 --- quit: iano () 12:09:19 --- log: started forth/07.11.12 12:09:19 --- join: clog (n=nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 12:09:19 --- topic: 'Welcome to #forth. We discuss the Forth programming language and a variety of technical subjects. Introduction and Helpful Reading: http://forthfreak.net/index.cgi?FnFC | ANS/ISO Forth Standard doc: http://tinyurl.com/nx7dx | Gforth compiler: http://tinyurl.com/s8uho | http://quartus.net/search | Paste: http://forth.pastebin.ca' 12:09:19 --- topic: set by tathi on [Fri Aug 24 08:25:49 2007] 12:09:19 --- names: list (clog ecraven edrx Snoopy42 Quartus__ timlarson crest__ madwork gnomon @Quartus Al2O3_ ccfg CyberSpace Deformati saon uiuiuiu mem4tim TreyB_ crc schemelab @JasonWoof Baughn uiuiu Fractal Robert gavino1 linxu nighty-- @kc5tja rbarraud warpzero mrsbrisby) 12:24:35 --- join: Deformative (n=joe@c-68-61-240-49.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:41:16 --- quit: schemelab (" HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- IRC for those that like to be different") 12:54:44 --- join: doublec (n=doublec@202.180.114.137) joined #forth 13:17:07 --- join: maht (n=maht@85-189-31-174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk) joined #forth 13:30:27 --- join: iano (n=iosgood@sub26-46.member.dsl-only.net) joined #forth 13:36:24 --- join: Off_Namuh (i=GPS@gateway/tor/x-edd58c7af4b441a6) joined #forth 13:38:58 hey. 13:41:42 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_OS 13:41:45 this is soo cool 13:41:48 I want one for xmas 13:56:05 oow expensive though 800 pounds 14:05:07 --- join: maht_ (n=maht@85.189.31.174.proweb.managedbroadband.co.uk) joined #forth 14:08:04 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:15:14 --- quit: maht (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:23:36 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 14:34:22 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 14:34:23 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 14:34:26 --- join: lucca (n=lucca@kuu.accela.net) joined #forth 15:03:03 Hello, Kuu. 15:07:10 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 15:07:51 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5489C211.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:23:28 http://www.riscos.org/articles/pv_nov2006.html 15:23:31 one angery guy 15:23:56 --- quit: Robert (".") 15:24:43 --- quit: crest__ (Connection timed out) 15:41:08 --- quit: crc (Remote closed the connection) 15:45:23 a guy who thinks risc os has superior jpeg compression abilities, which causes me to doubt his rationality 15:49:32 even more entertainingly, his follow-up article indicates that he thinks the dithering algorithm used by a given paint application is a function of the underlying OS. 15:51:05 heh heh 15:51:17 so he could be on shaky ground technically 15:51:26 you think? 15:57:24 . I can take any image, be it JPEG, PNG or GIF straight from a camera or something like Photoshop on a PC. Simply resave it from RISC OS and immediately it will be smaller and leaner - yet with the same, or even improved quality (examples coming soon for those who can't seem to grasp this!). 15:57:27 this bit? 15:58:08 yup 15:59:20 he thoroughly discredits himself with that, and nails the lid on in the followup article 16:13:18 I just grabbed the source file, used a paint program on a PC to size it down to 400x300, saved at 60% jpeg, and it's 11.4K. So I'm not even sure what he's on about. 16:13:37 lol 16:13:45 hes a funny bugger though 16:15:32 in fact I'm quite sure the resulting image has better definition than his. 16:15:53 he did try and make his case technically though in his d fense 16:16:14 just another deluded time-waster who diminishes the very thing he's trying to promote. 16:17:53 sure, he tried. He failed, because he's ignorant of a number of key points. So he winds up looking the fool, despite his bluster about the superiority of his toys, and how everyone else is a blinkered idiot for not seeing the light. 16:18:56 A "best viewed on Internet Explorer" banner on a web site is a bit like a "Keep Out" sign on a park - a single click and I'm viewing an alternative site - their loss, not mine! 16:18:57 lol 16:27:29 wow he does claim to have smaller file sizes on the mac, where else does he technically discedit himself? 16:29:20 eh? He claims smaller ones under RiscOS, proclaims them of higher quality, backpeddles on some consideration of sharpening filters, and fails to due any more than compare two paint programs' implementations of jpeg compression and dithering. 16:29:37 heh 16:30:20 I fired up photofiltre and got a superior 60 16:30:20 % jpg at under 12k. 16:30:45 Worse, he thinks jpg compression is an attribute of the OS. 16:31:46 his rant doesn't warrant any deeper analysis. RiscOS may be dandy, but with friends like this guy, it doesn't need enemies. 16:32:20 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096752101.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 16:32:24 --- quit: Crest (No route to host) 16:32:44 I think guys rearin for a fight are funny. 16:33:08 I don't. 16:33:21 I should say amusing. 16:33:24 it's a dangerous mindset that should not be encouraged 16:33:30 --- quit: madgarden (Client Quit) 16:33:32 indeed. 16:33:48 whats photophilter...? 16:34:03 first, spell it right. Second, google. 16:35:20 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096752101.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 16:40:44 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5489C211.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 16:46:36 hm 16:47:29 archlinux is fine for me.... 16:49:08 --- part: edrx left #forth 16:53:12 taygeta.com's webserver seems iffy 16:53:20 is this normal? 17:00:29 not sure 17:05:41 darn on linux my app wont save that jpg as a jpeg 17:05:59 only as a 400x300 jpg at 267k 17:06:29 jpg and jpeg are the same bloody thing 17:07:11 hm 17:07:21 maye this graphics app stnks. 17:07:38 I need to find out what kind of compression or whatever got it down to 12k. 17:09:47 ah I 'scaled' it and got 19k 17:10:27 wonder waht bi-cubic interpolation is 17:11:11 if only there were some kind of online encyclopediia 17:12:04 --- quit: iano () 17:17:20 16k with smoothing. 17:26:39 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0007e97df149-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 17:26:39 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 17:26:44 anybody have forth cgi apps? 17:27:01 i'm adding cgi support to factor's httpd and i thought of no better way to test it than by trying a forth web app. 17:28:36 (staying calm) 17:28:45 fastcgi or jsut cgi 17:28:48 just cgi. 17:29:05 regular cgi is supposed to stink performance wise.... 17:29:23 I do, but nothing all wrapped up neat with a bow. I launch gforth from cgi to do a few things. 17:29:56 trivial to reproduce on your end 17:32:27 linxu: yeah but i'm doing this mostly so that i can use git-web.cgi 17:37:56 --- quit: Al2O3_ ("Eggplant & SenseTalk: Driving Success Through Automation") 17:42:51 --- quit: gavino1 ("Leaving.") 18:16:40 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:25:29 hm what aprt of paint lets you scale? 18:25:36 I dont see the option? 18:31:34 --- join: Quartus____ (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 18:38:16 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:28:26 --- quit: saon (Remote closed the connection) 19:28:46 --- join: saon (n=saon@207.138.42.211) joined #forth 19:44:22 --- quit: Quartus____ () 19:44:41 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 19:44:41 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 20:40:15 --- quit: doublec () 20:50:07 --- quit: uiuiu (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:33:10 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:33:59 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 21:33:59 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 21:44:01 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 21:54:40 --- join: LOOP-HOG (n=jasondam@c-76-105-172-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:03:12 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@c-75-70-5-69.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:08:48 --- join: Al2O3_ (n=Al2O3@133.sub-70-209-187.myvzw.com) joined #forth 22:08:58 --- quit: Al2O3_ (Remote closed the connection) 22:25:33 --- quit: Al2O3 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:36:39 --- quit: slava () 22:37:38 --- join: Al2O3 (n=Al2O3@133.sub-70-209-187.myvzw.com) joined #forth 23:03:33 --- quit: Quartus () 23:03:43 --- join: LOOP-HOG2 (n=jasondam@c-76-105-172-75.hsd1.or.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:03:49 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 23:03:49 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 23:15:09 --- quit: LOOP-HOG (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:23:46 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:30:25 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-fb7b39d25f145ed7) joined #forth 23:43:09 --- quit: LOOP-HOG2 () 23:45:22 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.11.12