00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.09.30 00:04:06 --- join: H4ns (n=Hans@68.15.56.211) joined #forth 00:04:07 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0007e97df149-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 00:04:08 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 00:04:17 wow, more people here than #concatenative 00:04:19 that's a first 00:04:32 --- join: wossname (n=w@CPE00195b252b77-CM001a666a6e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 00:04:32 heh 00:04:43 maybe they're the same people ;) 00:05:11 ah, doublec, well-known troll.... /kick doublec 00:05:21 haha 00:05:43 did you code anything with 4p? 00:06:56 i wrote some code to pull data from postgres and produce it in other formats 00:07:06 did the same in Vodka, Javascript and Factor for comparison 00:07:12 cool 00:07:18 you should blog about it 00:07:37 i plan too 00:07:41 vodka compiles to jvm right? 00:07:45 yep 00:07:56 It's very basic at the moment - you have to call to Java to do a lot 00:08:07 but I wanted to play around with its concurrency ideas 00:09:21 is 4p ans? 00:09:29 looks like its from the author of helforth 00:09:30 no 00:09:36 4p is nice - i like it 00:09:58 it has some interesting control structures and an x86 jit 00:10:10 does it use vmgen? 00:10:20 not that i'm aware of 00:11:22 --- part: edrx left #forth 00:11:52 http://maschenwerk.de/repository/?p=4p;a=blob;h=a861726a85e187e2192e3b1faca71e19d78eccfd;hb=d3bc79e58f69b09f5327507a0e48d2b21b911873;f=src/4p.ci 00:12:02 look for "--- terse definitions - prepared by a script for usage." 00:13:17 hah, its not vmgen, it's a perl script 00:13:17 http://maschenwerk.de/repository/?p=4p;a=blob;h=c5b75cdaf80c286331956b32338538bba937eb28;hb=d3bc79e58f69b09f5327507a0e48d2b21b911873;f=src/helper/ciic.pl 00:26:09 --- join: mr_proteus (n=proteusg@ppp-124.120.223.80.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 00:26:09 --- quit: proteusguy (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:32:30 --- quit: doublec () 01:31:19 --- join: ncv (n=ncv@86.104.205.201) joined #forth 01:31:21 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:41:27 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:51:59 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@72.0.72.123) joined #forth 03:18:27 --- quit: nighty^ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:18:54 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@72.0.72.123) joined #forth 03:23:45 --- quit: nighty__ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 03:24:01 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 03:34:58 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:39:51 Hi. :) 04:24:00 --- join: wossname (n=w@CPE00195b252b77-CM001a666a6e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 04:42:48 --- quit: H4ns (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 04:43:44 --- join: H4ns (n=Hans@68.15.56.211) joined #forth 04:55:41 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 04:55:41 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:37:00 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 05:37:00 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:59:52 --- quit: H4ns (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:01:51 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 06:11:50 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:31:28 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 06:31:28 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 06:55:30 --- quit: nighty^ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 07:40:50 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 07:44:13 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:55:56 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 08:12:50 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:44:27 --- join: wossname (n=w@CPE00195b252b77-CM001a666a6e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 09:51:54 --- join: rutlov (n=voltur@217-68-166-106.dynamic.primacom.net) joined #forth 10:03:54 --- part: rutlov left #forth 10:49:08 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 11:32:42 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:21:18 --- quit: wossname (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:40:52 --- join: wossname (n=w@CPE00195b252b77-CM001a666a6e78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 12:47:16 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-7c92b766071e6cbc) joined #forth 13:05:02 --- nick: Raystm2- -> Raystm2 13:25:34 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 13:37:28 --- join: H4ns (n=Hans@pool-70-23-227-196.ny325.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 13:39:40 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 13:39:54 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:40:16 --- quit: forther (Client Quit) 13:40:25 --- quit: Raystm2 ("Should have paid the bill.") 13:40:29 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:42:47 --- quit: forther (Client Quit) 13:43:01 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-150-67.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:49:04 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 14:02:52 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-182-184.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 14:03:29 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 14:03:37 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 14:13:55 --- join: foucist (n=wunderwa@bespin.org) joined #forth 14:13:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +o foucist 14:14:14 howdy 14:19:21 hi foucist 14:19:31 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 14:20:33 crc: are you using darcs these days for retroforth? 14:20:52 because i wasn't able to find the darcs repo the other day 14:23:14 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 14:25:42 I only use darcs on my local machine now 14:33:04 darcs is crap 14:33:05 i suggest git 14:33:58 I have yet to try git 14:35:25 we swiched factor to git recently 14:35:29 it's working really well 14:35:30 i haven't used git yet, but it seems a bit harder to setup a server... with darcs you can just put the repo directory up and then other people can darcs pull from that 14:35:33 darcs couldn't handle >3000 patches 14:35:41 with git you run git-daemon 14:35:43 it uses its own protocol 14:35:46 ah ok 14:35:46 its very fast 14:35:59 only makes one connection per pull/push 14:36:03 darcs makes an http request per patch 14:36:07 and darcs' merging algorithms really suck 14:36:29 yeah, git was designed to be super fast.. 14:36:30 if you have <100,000 lines of code and <1000 patches its fast enough i guess 14:36:35 darcs i mean 14:36:43 but git scales way better 14:36:45 slava: do you have to do all the merging yourself? how do you have it setup? 14:36:53 no it's pretty automated 14:36:59 ah 14:37:02 i prefer git to darcs in terms of user interface actually 14:37:07 there are some things it does better 14:37:11 and it has more features, like branching 14:37:17 who deals with merging conflicts though? 14:37:31 the maintainer of the 'official' repo or the contributor? 14:37:43 like if soemobdy sends you a patch that conflicts? 14:37:48 you tell them to resend? 14:37:55 i can deal with it or they can 14:37:58 its just like darcs in this respect 14:38:22 been a long time since i've touched darcs, mainly using svn myself 14:38:35 i've used svn before, i didn't like it 14:38:37 slacking on switching to git ;) 14:38:46 beats cvs though 15:01:55 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489C409.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:07:43 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 15:07:43 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 15:18:48 --- quit: crest__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:43:10 --- part: foucist left #forth 15:56:21 --- join: doublec (n=doublec@202.180.114.137) joined #forth 16:37:56 --- join: tomodiz (n=tom@ool-4351edb7.dyn.optonline.net) joined #forth 16:38:23 --- part: tomodiz left #forth 17:23:06 --- quit: ncv ("Konversation terminated!") 17:25:43 --- quit: Off_Namuh72 (Remote closed the connection) 17:48:37 --- join: Off_Namuh72 (i=GPS@gateway/tor/x-48655291ae2a1046) joined #forth 17:56:06 --- nick: mr_proteus -> proteusguy 18:00:15 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:00:43 --- quit: proteusguy ("Leaving") 18:03:56 --- join: proteusguy (n=proteusg@ppp-124.120.223.80.revip2.asianet.co.th) joined #forth 18:25:40 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:27:00 --- quit: Off_Namuh72 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:52:30 --- join: Off_Namuh72 (i=GPS@gateway/tor/x-a1289dedce854e6f) joined #forth 19:07:05 --- join: H4n1 (n=Hans@cpe-69-203-74-50.nyc.res.rr.com) joined #forth 19:25:17 --- quit: H4ns (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 19:47:56 --- join: Raystm2 (i=NanRay@c-24-8-127-241.hsd1.co.comcast.net) joined #forth 20:02:53 --- part: slava left #forth 20:05:22 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@72.0.72.123) joined #forth 20:17:03 --- quit: H4n1 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:03:47 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@189.25.0.229) joined #forth 21:05:33 --- quit: doublec () 21:36:15 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM001947482b20.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 21:36:15 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 22:21:37 --- join: go (n=blaumag@190.55.4.27) joined #forth 22:29:12 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:41:53 --- quit: edrx (Remote closed the connection) 23:07:33 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:39:04 --- join: crc_ (n=crc@70.110.169.71) joined #forth 23:40:48 --- quit: crc (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:54:45 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@205.205.50.2) joined #forth 23:57:16 --- quit: go ("0.2.3") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.09.30