00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.06.20 00:07:59 --- quit: skas_wk ("Leaving") 01:11:30 --- nick: yumehito_ -> yumehito 02:10:06 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5489FA72.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 03:35:13 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 03:47:36 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@202-90-54-135.static.linearg.net) joined #forth 03:49:17 --- quit: Raystm2- ("Should have paid the bill.") 03:56:48 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-164-248.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 05:05:07 --- quit: slava () 05:06:17 --- join: jns (n=jens@p57B0507A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 06:07:04 grrrrr 06:10:17 doesn't anybody use tabs anymore? 06:10:23 I'm trying really hard here 06:12:49 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #forth 06:12:52 I can only conclude that vim is broken 06:14:02 not the most common feature I must admit, but frustrating none the less 06:14:21 I'm trying to get auto-indent to work properly for my bulleted lists 06:14:51 I can't get it to stop turning things that must clearly be spaces into tabs 06:15:02 it looks like this: 06:15:10 | 1) sthaou staoeu stnheus ntheunsth 06:15:18 | te tem n m nm mn cn 06:15:59 everyone knows that tabs are for indentation, and spaces are for vertical allignment. thus the whitespace under the "1) " must be spaces 06:17:21 with one set of settings, I got it to work so long as there are spaces to the left of "1)". But that's usually not the case 06:17:27 is that your interpretation, or are you being sarcastic? 06:17:48 I'm not being sarcastic 06:17:59 some people use tabs for indentation, some people use spaces 06:18:07 but if you want something to line up, you've gotta use spaces 06:18:16 why? 06:18:39 because tabs show up as different widths for different people/editors/output-mediums 06:19:30 the ascii-era convention has tabs every 8 chars 06:19:46 yeah, it's often 8 06:19:53 but I prefer 4 06:19:58 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 06:20:27 so if my stupid editor turns the four spaces under "1) " into a tab, it won't line up for other people 06:20:35 unless they have their tab width set to 4 too 06:20:43 You can't turn that off? 06:21:32 can't seem to 06:21:45 crappyv editor. 06:21:50 it's only breaking it when I use the "autoindent this paragraph" feature 06:21:53 not while I'm typing 06:22:38 I've tried two ways, one where I give it a regular expression to recognize such "ordered list" headers 06:22:57 JasonWoof: I 06:23:04 and another where I tell it if the first and second lines of a paragraph are indented differently, keep it different, and indent the rest of the paragraph the way the second line is 06:23:13 JasonWoof: oops 06:24:14 --- quit: jns (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 06:24:38 --- quit: rabbitwhite (Client Quit) 06:27:09 --- quit: skas_wk ("I'm outta here.") 06:27:35 --- join: jns (n=jens@p57B0507A.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 06:36:28 the vim help page even says: It might be nice to have tabs after the first non-blank inserted as spaces if you do this though. Otherwise aligned comments will be wrong when 'tabstop' is changed. 06:51:58 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-9d97f3bc24705a70) joined #forth 07:00:34 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:12:47 --- quit: gnomon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:15:28 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM001692f57b56.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 07:18:03 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 07:38:44 --- quit: rabbitwhite ("New look! Same great product.") 07:40:21 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 07:54:46 --- quit: gnomon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:57:02 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM001692f57b56.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 08:06:18 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@205.205.50.1) joined #forth 08:10:02 so what's the score? Still vim 1, jason 0? :) 08:11:53 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:13:17 --- quit: rabbitwhite (Client Quit) 09:38:12 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:49:01 --- join: edrx (i=edrx@201.5.12.247) joined #forth 10:07:26 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 10:07:32 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 10:32:27 --- quit: jns (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:14:01 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-68-95-161-155.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 11:14:21 --- join: RayS (n=Ray_stma@adsl-68-95-161-155.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 11:22:45 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:23:41 --- quit: rabbitwhite (Client Quit) 11:39:11 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@205.205.50.2) joined #forth 11:44:57 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:45:50 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 11:46:12 --- quit: madwork ("?OUT OF DATA ERROR") 12:28:04 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 12:36:24 --- join: PGR (i=opera@91.145.240.181) joined #forth 12:37:38 --- part: PGR left #forth 12:46:31 --- quit: rabbitwhite ("New look! Same great product.") 12:56:29 --- quit: ygrek () 12:56:58 --- quit: Snoopy42 () 13:15:12 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-152-076.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 13:29:20 --- quit: timlarson_ ("Leaving") 13:38:57 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:42:40 --- join: jns (n=jens@p57B0707C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 14:19:46 --- quit: jns (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 14:20:03 --- join: jns (n=jens@p57B0707C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 14:31:18 --- join: Zarutian (i=c290e6fd@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-5f9f463fca1409e7) joined #forth 14:32:34 Does anyone know where one can obtain the Harris RTX-2000 (or RTX-2010) hardware specification and/or programmers handbook online? 14:34:05 oh, and h'lo all ;-) 14:34:21 hi 14:37:22 hi 14:37:43 --- quit: ccfg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:40:24 --- quit: rabbitwhite ("New look! Same great product.") 14:53:01 hi. 14:53:05 hi ray 14:53:23 What's going on in the fine world today? 14:53:31 Not too much I hope. 14:53:38 Agreed! 14:54:17 A sentiment for quick responders eveywhere. 14:54:31 --- join: rabbitwhite (n=Miranda@c-24-126-64-144.hsd1.md.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:54:53 Hey rabbitwhite 14:54:58 hey 14:55:08 What's new in cube land? 14:55:27 * RayS just saw that "Flat Land" episode of Cosmos. 14:55:52 nothing right now 14:55:56 i'm getting ready to move to nyc 14:56:18 No kidding? Long Island? 14:56:51 When do you go? 14:57:07 Flying? 14:58:29 no brooklyn 14:58:38 but it is to live with the same guy from long island 14:58:53 and probably by truck 15:00:24 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 15:00:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 15:08:13 were gonna have this huge apartment that has a storefront 15:08:30 2100 a month split between 3 roommates 15:10:08 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489CD54.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:14:28 Hey, that' s not bad. Got work lined up? 15:18:25 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:21:17 well i'm about to go work at this computer camp tomorrow and spend 6 weeks there 15:21:44 after its done i'll have $2700 in the bank to live off of for a while , while i look for something else 15:32:42 * Zarutian cd ~ 15:32:59 --- quit: Zarutian ("CGI:IRC") 15:43:11 --- quit: rabbitwhite ("New look! 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