00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.04.30 00:11:34 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:14:14 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:26:01 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 00:44:42 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-993f81853cd6f678) joined #forth 00:47:33 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A7AD92.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 00:52:15 --- join: brx`` (n=brx@p57A7831F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 00:56:30 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:58:28 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 00:58:30 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 01:02:26 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A79C46.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 01:07:35 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:10:20 --- quit: brx`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:28:04 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57a7aefa.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 01:43:24 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:54:59 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 01:58:01 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-d1f163206c07422a) joined #forth 02:24:20 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 02:30:29 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A7ABEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 02:38:29 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:44:17 --- join: eForth64IRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 02:45:29 --- quit: eForth64IRC (Client Quit) 02:51:37 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A7A1B2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 03:07:24 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:35:44 --- nick: ccfg_ -> ccfg 03:42:20 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57a7b0cc.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 03:50:12 --- join: brx`` (n=brx@p57a79874.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 03:52:10 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:05:47 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:10:55 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A7962C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 04:18:36 --- quit: brx`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:29:08 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A78F52.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 04:44:43 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:50:56 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57a78b71.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 04:54:10 --- join: brx`` (n=brx@p57A78AB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 04:58:43 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:09:37 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:18:57 --- join: ForthIRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 05:19:38 --- quit: ForthIRC (Client Quit) 05:47:38 --- join: ForthIRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 05:48:22 --- quit: ForthIRC (Client Quit) 05:49:28 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A783C3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 05:58:08 --- quit: brx`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:01:42 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57a7c69d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 06:10:05 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #forth 06:17:22 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:50:31 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57a7b453.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 06:53:54 --- join: brx`` (n=brx@p57A799D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 06:58:27 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:59:18 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 07:03:58 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 07:09:23 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:35:22 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57a7b627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 07:42:37 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@202-90-54-135.static.linearg.net) joined #forth 07:42:45 --- quit: skas_wk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:43:35 --- quit: brx`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:06:43 --- join: ForthIRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 08:07:03 --- quit: ForthIRC (Client Quit) 08:25:31 --- join: ForthIRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 08:25:43 --- quit: ForthIRC (Client Quit) 08:39:18 --- join: ForthIRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 08:39:46 --- quit: ForthIRC (Client Quit) 09:05:14 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-a65e811282a75b6d) joined #forth 09:09:58 Hi. 09:13:36 yo 09:14:38 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A7A4D6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 09:16:28 how goes it? 09:16:35 still alive 09:16:59 you yourself? 09:19:46 same. 09:25:14 boring eh 09:29:35 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:43:15 --- join: ForthIRC (n=mhx@g143105.upc-g.chello.nl) joined #forth 09:43:35 --- quit: ForthIRC (Client Quit) 09:58:46 well, it's a start :) 10:17:35 --- join: TreyB_ (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 10:17:44 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:24:28 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A79B06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 10:32:29 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:34:46 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 10:41:03 --- quit: TreyB_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:17:12 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A78E2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 11:28:33 --- join: brx`` (n=brx@p57a78e61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 11:31:53 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:36:18 --- quit: brx` (Connection timed out) 12:03:46 --- join: yumehito_ (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 12:14:20 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@fosforo.k8.com.br) joined #forth 12:15:15 --- quit: yumehito (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:28:32 --- quit: ygrek () 12:50:47 --- nick: brx`` -> brx 13:10:26 --- join: iano (i=me@sub26-46.member.dsl-only.net) joined #forth 13:34:23 --- quit: timlarson_ ("Leaving") 13:44:00 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A7BF4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 13:52:37 --- quit: iano () 13:59:05 --- quit: brx (Connection timed out) 13:59:16 --- join: segher_ (n=segher@dslb-084-056-137-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 14:09:01 --- quit: segher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:17:29 --- join: timlarson__ (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 14:18:48 --- quit: timlarson (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:43:19 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A7BB65.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 14:51:20 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:58:11 --- quit: Quartus__ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:10:57 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489f52c.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:15:24 --- quit: Quartus () 15:18:15 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:32:06 --- quit: timlarson__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:58:53 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:58:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 16:03:21 --- part: edrx left #forth 16:21:51 --- join: sszukalski (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 16:22:46 --- quit: sszukalski (Client Quit) 16:23:20 --- join: sszukalski (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 16:30:36 --- quit: sszukalski ("Leaving") 16:30:47 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 16:32:18 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 16:48:29 --- join: sszukalski (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 16:48:46 --- quit: sszukalski (Client Quit) 16:48:55 --- quit: skas_wk ("Leaving") 16:49:10 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 17:17:22 --- join: virl (n=virl@62.178.85.149) joined #forth 17:17:22 --- mode: ChanServ set +b *!*@62.178.85.149 17:17:22 --- part: virl left #forth 17:49:19 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.8.146) joined #forth 18:48:46 --- quit: Quartus () 19:00:23 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 19:00:23 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 19:19:42 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A7A835.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 19:35:42 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:10:32 --- part: edrx left #forth 20:29:09 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 20:29:31 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A7BEC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 20:37:49 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 21:53:47 --- join: brx` (n=brx@p57A792E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 22:07:18 --- join: brx`` (n=brx@p57A7A890.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 22:09:02 --- quit: brx (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:11:04 "you should try to observe the 22:11:05 Principle of Least Astonishment when implementing macros." 22:14:22 --- quit: brx` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:31:06 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 22:48:03 --- quit: skas_wk (Remote closed the connection) 22:58:13 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 22:59:03 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:09:09 --- quit: skas_wk ("Leaving") 23:11:47 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 23:13:54 --- quit: skas_wk (Client Quit) 23:16:50 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 23:23:33 slava: sbcl sucks interactively 23:23:44 it's got no commandline history, or even a decent readline 23:23:46 did you try using the slime package for emacs? 23:23:50 eg my left arrow key doesn't work 23:23:53 no 23:24:00 emacs makes my hands hurt 23:24:01 you can get a readline library that adds command line history 23:24:23 or you can run it from emacs 23:24:30 also I can't find a keystroke that'll exit sbcl when it's got the debugger open 23:25:01 best I've come up with so far is to keep pressing ^D until it exits 23:25:14 but I have to be careful not to hit it too many times or I'll close my terminal too 23:25:20 (quit) 23:25:41 that's a pita 23:25:57 what I really want is for it to exit by itself 23:25:58 why are you quitting it so often? 23:26:08 I'm running code I have in a file 23:26:16 (load "foo.lisp") 23:26:18 I want it to run, print debugging messages if nessesary, and then quit 23:26:47 with commandline history I'd be happy with such a solution 23:26:52 how do I get that? 23:27:33 i don't remember the details, ask in #lisp 23:27:38 ok 23:27:45 or just use emacs 23:27:50 M-x slime 23:28:01 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-55f5a299f5c91110) joined #forth 23:28:07 with emacs you get some nifty features, like the backtarce in the debugger becomes clickable and then you can jump to source file, etc 23:28:40 that's cool 23:29:20 the thing that sounded most useful that I've read about so far is some key-command to run macroexpand-1 on the expression at the cursor 23:29:39 another useful one is M-. which takes you to the dfinition of the function at the cursor 23:30:28 --- join: brx (n=brx@p57A7A2B8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) joined #forth 23:30:58 --- part: skas_wk left #forth 23:40:01 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 23:40:10 --- quit: skas_wk (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:41:32 --- join: skas_wk (n=skas@121.127.198.32) joined #forth 23:46:24 --- quit: brx`` (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 23:53:38 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 23:57:06 slava: that's a great feature 23:57:19 vim has a jump-to-definition key 23:57:34 but you have to have compiled a list of definitions ahead of time with exhuberant-ctags or some such 23:58:03 sometimes I make a Makefile to generate that list 23:58:16 sbcl tracks this info dynamically 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.04.30