00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.03.25 00:22:11 --- join: nighty^ (n=nighty@211.154.202.98) joined #forth 01:46:58 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 03:02:49 ASau - ... ah. You know, OpenBSD has also ported itself to Zaurus, which I already knew about. Yes, I've found some of this icache stuff in its kernel. 04:04:26 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 04:04:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 04:38:52 --- join: yumehito (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 04:44:14 Privet! 05:08:29 --- quit: tathi (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:08:29 --- quit: gnomon__ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:08:29 --- quit: unfy (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 05:08:36 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 05:08:36 --- join: gnomon__ (n=gnomon@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM001692f57b56.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 05:08:36 --- join: unfy (n=unfy@69.60.116.93) joined #forth 05:08:36 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +o tathi 05:12:43 --- join: yumehito_ (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 05:15:39 --- quit: yumehito_ (Remote closed the connection) 05:18:32 --- join: yumehito_ (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 05:24:36 --- quit: yumehito_ (Remote closed the connection) 05:26:57 --- quit: yumehito (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:36:01 --- join: yumehito (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 05:54:40 --- quit: yumehito (Connection timed out) 06:00:28 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.253) joined #forth 06:21:57 pah, gforth-cvs is incompatible even with the latest release. 06:22:31 oh? 06:22:48 yes. 06:23:05 how so? 06:23:52 not trying to say you're wrong, just that I haven't noticed any outright incompatibilities yet 06:25:22 tathi - kernel/int.fs has: require some/file.fs a comment -- which kills gforth 0.6.2 06:26:45 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 06:27:48 huh 06:29:30 ayrnieu: Sorry? 06:29:42 I haven't seen that. 06:30:26 haven't seen what? 06:30:40 tathi - kernel/int.fs has: require some/file.fs \ a comment -- which kills gforth 0.6.2 06:30:56 I build current CVS with 0.6.2. 06:31:01 yeah, I don't see it either -- the 'require' lines in kernel/int.fs here are the same in cvs as in 0.6.2 06:31:38 Only if it was introduced in recent two days, I could not see it. 06:31:51 I just updated before checking 06:32:08 I'm not that fast. 06:33:50 tathi - you're right: int.fs also has the broken lines that I describe. 06:34:50 ah, nevermind, those should work. 06:35:33 ayrnieu: I've built CVS Gforth successfully. 06:37:22 ASau - I am trying to use gforth on one machine for the parts that CVS needs gforth, for a build on another machine. My complaint came from an error in this process. 06:38:49 ayrnieu: I'm sorry for my English, but I don't understand your last two sentences. 06:39:10 Please? 06:40:24 I've run "cvs up", Gforth did not change recently. 06:41:23 ASau - translataion: I am building gforth on machine A. machine A does not have gforth. I have a process, by which I try to use machine B (which does have gforth) to do some of the work for machine A. 06:42:04 Ah! 06:42:53 yeah, I wish they'd clean up their build machinery. 06:43:50 I'd be happy enough with a release, every once in a while. 06:44:31 yeah, or that. :) 06:46:20 I did use 'make dist' to make a snapshot of the CVS version that I have installed...I could post it if you think that would be any help at all... 06:47:03 Does that create something like the latest 0.6.2 tarball, that doesn't require gforth to build? 06:47:39 I have to admit I'm not clear what's different in the dist tarball, but I did find it easier to build from there than to build straight from the CVS directory. 06:48:24 I'll check. 06:48:26 Hold on. 06:50:57 nevermind, this doesn't even build on machine B. I'm not going to waste any more time on gforth. 06:51:15 fair enough 06:52:12 I'm interested in tarball distribution, so I'm checking. 07:16:30 Alright. 07:16:31 Fine. 07:16:40 I've got it finally. 07:16:51 --- quit: skas (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:17:07 HOW TO GET GFORTH TARBALL FROM CVS 07:17:11 In 3 lines. 07:17:18 1. Check the source out. 07:17:24 2. Build Gforth. 07:17:30 3. make srcdist 07:18:26 The 2. step maybe is not needed, but I have not checked it yet. 07:45:22 Teckla - no, trunc() comes from ANSI C, and doesn't deal with files. man -k truncate , too. 07:45:31 mischan. 07:47:25 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 08:19:26 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-fc0818af69f08edb) joined #forth 08:23:06 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.12.6) joined #forth 08:40:52 Buenas noches. 08:40:57 Dobryj vecher. 08:57:03 pfe-fig is strange: http://paste.lisp.org/display/38672 08:59:15 How do you get this? 08:59:35 I mean, what's "pfe-fig"? 09:00:54 --with-fig use FIG-like word-header (and consequences) 09:01:20 I chose to build and install all the variants of PFE, including this one. 09:01:56 FIG dictionaries have a count and then the first three characters, IIRC, but the behavior in that paste still seems odd. 09:04:02 I know FIG pretty well. 09:04:25 It's against all of my FIG Forth experience. 09:15:45 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09:22:16 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.106) joined #forth 09:26:24 Goodd evening! 09:26:58 "AAnndd wwhhaatt iiss dduupplleexx??" 09:45:42 --- join: segher_ (n=segher@dslb-084-056-193-107.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 09:47:32 good afternoon 09:49:20 What's new in RF? 09:53:42 What to do with average load 6.5. 09:55:21 --- quit: segher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:58:42 I'm making slow progress towards a 9.3 release 09:59:40 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-107-060.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 09:59:45 It's been long time since I last looked at RF. 10:00:03 Do you support NetBSD? 10:00:23 In any way. 10:00:31 yes 10:00:46 I remember you supported FreeBSD with libc version. 10:00:55 9.2.x has a netbsd port 10:01:17 9.2.x supports net, free, and dragonfly bsd ports natively and with syscalls 10:01:30 Wah! 10:01:32 9.3 has a libc dependency for all ports 10:01:34 That's nice! 10:03:13 there's no pkgsrc package for it though 10:03:36 That's not a problem. 10:03:47 I've learned how to do it. 10:04:17 Thouogh, it is less convenient in RF case, 10:04:32 ok 10:04:46 you almost provide separate source. 10:09:02 if you want to try the 9.3 release, a source tarball is at http://charleschilders.com/repos/snapshot/retro-9.3.tar.gz 10:09:18 it won't run Quartus's ANS layer yet, but otherwise seems to work well 10:09:51 Thanks. 10:13:28 np 10:14:22 --- part: edrx left #forth 10:22:29 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:22:49 --- nick: Snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 10:29:10 --- join: timlarson__ (n=timlarso@user-12l37rb.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 10:31:36 --- quit: timlarson (Nick collision from services.) 10:31:43 --- nick: timlarson__ -> timlarson 10:44:50 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 10:52:11 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 10:54:07 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-0311ed8ee80557a6) joined #forth 10:57:14 Privet! 11:45:28 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 11:45:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 11:55:09 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 11:56:10 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-698961b9d10833bb) joined #forth 12:03:20 --- join: lyn (n=chatzill@ip68-8-228-101.sd.sd.cox.net) joined #forth 12:03:37 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:03:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 12:07:38 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 12:27:09 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.64) joined #forth 12:33:54 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 12:33:54 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 12:35:41 hey tathi 12:35:50 Hi Quartus_ 12:59:24 --- quit: ygrek () 13:01:34 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:07:23 --- join: TheBlueWizard (i=TheBlueW@ts001d0596.wdc-dc.xod.concentric.net) joined #forth 13:09:09 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:35:02 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13:36:57 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 13:55:02 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:10:03 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 14:10:19 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 14:15:40 --- part: TheBlueWizard left #forth 14:24:46 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:26:57 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-168-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 14:33:24 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 14:33:45 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-168-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 14:45:45 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:45:57 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-157-100.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 14:50:46 --- quit: ASau (Remote closed the connection) 15:04:17 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:04:46 --- nick: Snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 15:10:37 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:10:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 15:13:37 Hey slava 15:13:40 hi 15:54:49 --- quit: gnomon__ (Remote closed the connection) 16:13:10 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 16:29:00 --- join: gnomon (n=gnomon@CPE0050eb372bdb-CM001692f57b56.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 16:49:49 --- quit: nighty^ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 16:57:05 --- join: hyrax_ (n=dschauer@cpe-76-187-163-5.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 16:57:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +o hyrax_ 17:09:17 --- quit: hyrax_ (Remote closed the connection) 17:20:08 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 17:22:04 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:22:22 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-160-190.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 17:41:04 --- join: hyrax_ (n=dschauer@cpe-76-187-163-5.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 17:41:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +o hyrax_ 18:02:42 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.10) joined #forth 18:05:08 --- quit: hyrax_ (Remote closed the connection) 18:06:53 hi 18:12:30 hi 18:12:35 what's up? 18:12:54 just got an e-mail from an old friend 18:13:12 haven't seen her for ages 18:13:23 first I heard she was living in mexico or somewhere in that vacinity 18:13:24 then Boston 18:13:41 I gotta make a call before it's too late to be polite 18:13:44 brb 18:14:30 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 18:14:30 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 18:15:32 hey Quartus_ 18:16:16 Hey 18:22:06 what's the news of the world? 18:22:55 writing docs. kind of bored 18:36:46 heh 19:14:29 any new werty? 19:15:58 nope. 19:16:14 now i'm refactoring my cocoa binding to make it independent of the factor ui. 19:16:22 hopefully this will encourage people to write some cocoa apps. 19:33:06 time will tell! 20:20:22 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 20:37:28 --- join: yumehito (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 21:20:14 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-136-041.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 21:28:14 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 21:28:19 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-139-125.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 21:31:37 --- quit: Snoopy_1711 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 22:06:20 --- part: edrx left #forth 22:09:16 --- quit: slava () 22:42:47 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-92e8161083d85be0) joined #forth 23:52:39 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:55:24 --- quit: lyn (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.03.25