00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.03.09 00:06:20 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-01d4eaa4f0927356) joined #forth 00:06:26 --- join: crest__ (n=crest@p5489C9DB.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 00:22:20 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:24:27 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-5af20efb.tcl108.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 00:24:32 hi 00:28:54 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489EB4B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 00:34:48 --- part: zpg left #forth 00:36:24 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5489EDB6.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 00:43:08 --- quit: crest__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:47:17 --- join: Snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-175-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 00:49:21 --- join: crest__ (n=crest@p5489FC76.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 00:49:50 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:55:33 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489F3C2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 00:58:04 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:04:57 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:05:10 --- nick: Snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 01:08:43 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5489D1C3.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:09:45 --- quit: crest__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:12:55 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:17:03 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-5af20efb.tcl108.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 01:17:06 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:29:26 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489D8D2.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:44:04 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:44:29 --- join: crest__ (n=crest@p5489FEC1.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:53:33 --- quit: crest_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:11:00 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@ggsn2inet7.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 02:17:53 --- join: imaginator (n=George@georgeps.dsl.xmission.com) joined #forth 02:18:00 hi 02:18:21 Dobry den! 02:18:45 Hey, ASau, you're back. 02:19:05 I'm looking for a way to get the xt for a word prior to ; and after : I'm basically building an idle callback facility, and I want to get the xt for the current word being compiled. 02:19:43 :NONAME or LATEST ? 02:20:14 :noname would probably work. I don't seem to have latest 02:20:34 'profit, I'm only half back. 02:20:53 I was hoping I could do it with the standard : word. I can show you what I'm trying to do, and maybe you can give me some advice. 02:20:59 I access the channel from my Palm 02:21:33 I'm sorry for line breaks and speelling. 02:21:44 ASau, how's your manifest doing?.. 02:22:31 Forthers of all lands, unite! 02:22:40 I've written it, in half, but I don't have time for it now. 02:22:45 I d 02:23:03 I have sporadic access to 'net. 02:23:05 L 02:23:18 You see Palm only. 02:23:37 That is PalmOS -> mobile phone. 02:25:44 Actually, this is not a manifest, but very critical article. 02:26:14 "In werty's defense" 02:27:04 I think I should rewrite it in English. 02:27:07 http://forth.pastebin.ca/387404 02:27:24 ASau, what for?.. 02:27:50 Isnt your TA -- russian speaking forthers? 02:28:36 I think, I can kill two birds with one stone. 02:28:47 BTW, about RuFIG. 02:30:05 My friend, journalist, decided (not without my help) to write about Il'ja Tarasov 02:30:12 and his CPUs. 02:30:27 aha, I found a way: win xincr yincr x y [ last-word , ] 6 nxf_idle_callback ; Sorry if I wasted your time. 02:30:47 imaginator, if you have last-word it should give you an NFA, which you .. 02:31:02 I hope he really will write the article. 02:31:11 Oh.. Hmm, strange.. Does your code work?.. 02:31:20 yes, seemingly 02:31:25 should I be using literal instead? 02:31:55 I dunno. I've never worked with FICL. 02:32:42 btw what's an NFA? 02:32:55 Name field address 02:34:42 Russian Forthes are very conservative. 02:35:29 You better understand them with early 80's books 02:35:32 l 02:35:49 than with modern articles. 02:36:02 Probably it's because it's only books on Forth we have.. 02:36:50 I mean printed books. 02:37:45 Right, that is the problem. 02:37:49 Language. 02:38:30 It looks I have to interrupt. 02:38:40 Probably, L 02:39:00 I'm in single task mode. 02:39:18 Sorry for line breaks. 03:06:07 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 03:09:43 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@iggsn1inet2.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 03:16:33 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 03:25:19 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 03:25:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 03:28:47 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:54:19 --- join: frankho (i=frankho@nat/sun/x-7d9ba375a8f36dc3) joined #forth 04:20:19 --- quit: clive-h (Remote closed the connection) 04:24:03 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@ggsn3inet4.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 04:43:33 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p5489CEFC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 04:52:33 --- quit: crest__ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:00:29 --- quit: ASau (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 05:21:10 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 05:28:38 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@ggsn1inet3.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 05:29:21 --- quit: ASau (Client Quit) 05:30:35 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@ggsn1inet3.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 05:40:27 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 05:40:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 06:00:30 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #forth 06:07:19 morning 06:17:12 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 06:25:56 --- part: ASau left #forth 06:26:50 morning 06:28:20 morning 06:28:53 top of the dead of night to you, gov'ner. 07:10:01 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@200.217.105.47) joined #forth 07:10:41 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:15:39 --- quit: edrx (Remote closed the connection) 07:16:06 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@200.217.105.47) joined #forth 07:26:05 --- quit: edrx ("rcirc on GNU Emacs 22.0.93.1") 07:27:44 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@200.217.105.47) joined #forth 08:12:43 --- part: frankho left #forth 08:21:28 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@iggsn1inet2.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 08:23:43 --- quit: ASau (Client Quit) 08:29:44 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 08:30:09 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@ggsn3inet8.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 08:36:18 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 08:36:18 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 09:13:38 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 09:15:00 --- join: iano (n=chatzill@gw-pdx.extensis.com) joined #forth 09:31:56 --- quit: ASau ("Leaving") 09:32:47 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-83-233-103.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 10:01:07 --- join: yumehito (n=yumehito@b-internet.87.103.254.70.snt.ru) joined #forth 10:14:25 --- quit: vatic ("*poof*") 10:18:58 --- join: tgunr (n=davec@72-173-45-71.cust.wildblue.net) joined #forth 10:24:48 --- join: mark4 (n=mark4@70.102.202.162) joined #forth 10:32:07 --- nick: mark4 -> I440r 10:32:20 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 10:33:29 --- mode: ChanServ set +o hyrax_ 11:20:21 --- join: tgunr_ (n=davec@72-173-45-71.cust.wildblue.net) joined #forth 11:20:35 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:59:48 --- quit: tgunr_ () 12:05:50 --- quit: ygrek () 12:19:39 --- quit: I440r ("bbl") 12:37:09 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-5af20efb.tcl108.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 12:52:45 --- join: ASau (n=upirc@iggsn1inet1.beelinegprs.ru) joined #forth 12:53:12 hi 12:53:31 Good evening! 12:53:46 and to you ASau 12:54:32 Anything new in this area? 12:54:46 the evening? 12:54:55 same as ever. 12:56:35 Gents! 12:56:56 hey Ray, how've you been keeping? 12:57:40 spoiled as usual, yerself? 12:58:58 My mouth is burning from jalapeno katsup. 13:00:34 heh. okay thanks, albeit tired. 13:01:28 What has had your attention of late? 13:03:05 sleep :) 13:05:34 --- quit: ASau ("Leaving") 13:19:21 --- quit: zpg ("bed") 13:28:44 --- quit: timlarson_ ("Leaving") 14:06:53 hey 14:22:03 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 14:22:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 14:36:28 --- quit: ayrnieu ("after four -long- outages in three days, I now have: a scheduled motherfucking 0830-1900 loss of power.") 14:59:31 hey 14:59:58 Quartus: ever written an automatic code formatter for forth? 15:16:54 slava, that's tough to do beyond an approximation. 15:17:37 I aim to factor small enough to obviate a pretty-printer. 15:22:56 poor Mitch Bradley... 15:23:30 He's the Open Firmware master, so he gets to field three must-fix-right-now requests at once on #olpc 15:24:45 slava: the formatting in gforth's SEE is pretty nice 15:28:14 it gets some things wrong, but it's not horrendous 15:29:48 but it's easier to go from compiled->formatted than from source->formatted 15:38:00 good evening 15:40:20 --- join: Quartus__ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 15:52:47 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:56:06 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:56:52 why do you ask, slava? 16:10:43 just curious. i'm working on factor's formatter myself. 16:10:54 it processes the in-memory representation, not text. 16:25:37 ah. 16:44:07 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p5489D44C.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 16:52:39 tougher yet to go from native-code back to source. You might embed links to the actual original source. 16:53:14 probably just factor's parsed representation, not native code. 16:53:33 right. 16:53:49 going from factor-generated native code to source is non-trivial. 16:54:16 --- join: Amanita_Virosa (n=jenni@adsl-70-242-7-95.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 16:54:17 you'd have to reconstruct stack shuffles from register usage, among other things. 16:59:41 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:09:46 yes, and you'd as often as not fail to match the orignal 17:21:03 --- quit: iano ("Chatzilla 0.9.75.1 [SeaMonkey 1.1.1/2007022206]") 18:27:08 --- quit: Quartus () 18:33:45 --- quit: Amanita_Virosa ("Wewps.") 18:50:06 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:50:26 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096668571.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 18:53:21 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 19:05:22 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:05:40 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096668571.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 19:12:12 --- quit: madgarden ("?OUT OF DATA ERROR") 19:14:38 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096668571.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 19:55:21 --- quit: virsys (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19:55:21 --- quit: TreyB (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19:55:21 --- quit: unfy (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 19:55:41 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 19:55:41 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 19:55:41 --- join: unfy (n=unfy@69.60.116.93) joined #forth 20:05:32 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 20:05:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 20:07:42 --- quit: TreyB (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:07:42 --- quit: virsys (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:07:42 --- quit: unfy (calvino.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 20:09:10 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 20:09:10 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 20:09:10 --- join: unfy (n=unfy@69.60.116.93) joined #forth 20:13:10 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 20:13:57 --- quit: hyrax_ (Remote closed the connection) 20:14:42 --- join: hyrax_ (n=dschauer@cpe-76-187-163-5.tx.res.rr.com) joined #forth 20:14:43 --- mode: ChanServ set +o hyrax_ 20:21:55 --- join: tattrdkat (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 20:24:08 --- quit: virsys (Connection timed out) 20:44:48 --- nick: tattrdkat -> virsys 22:50:15 --- quit: azekeprofit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:29:56 --- join: azekeprofit (n=azekepro@82.200.251.18) joined #forth 23:41:08 --- part: azekeprofit left #forth 23:41:45 --- join: azekeprofit (i=azekepro@82.200.251.18) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.03.09