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You? 10:38:11 good thanks. 10:41:07 Quartus_: do you know whether it's possible to iterate over a given wordlist? 10:41:24 i.e., with ( wid -- ... ) 10:45:02 not portably. Why? 10:50:27 i'd quite like to clone a wordlist. 10:50:32 (copy) 10:51:40 Out of curiosity, why do you want to do that? 10:52:11 an oop experiment. 10:53:02 functions needn't be copied, but instance variables need to be cloned. 10:54:31 Generally, instance variables resolve to offsets from the base of the object. 10:55:45 Those offsets wouldn't change in a derived class (again, generally) so you don't need to clone the wordlist, just add it to the search order. 10:56:20 hmm, that's a very good point. i can maintain the wordlist model for the xt's and use a separate technique for the instance variables. 10:56:36 it's amazing how much clarity comes from a brief discussion of a simple point. 10:59:42 :-) 11:04:38 anyhow, i'm being rude. how're you TreyB? 11:06:42 I feel just fine. And yourself? 11:07:57 still good :) 11:08:35 enjoying my hacking 11:16:38 best head off -- have a good one. 11:16:39 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.0.4 $Revision: 1.726.2.19 $ (IRC client for Emacs)") 11:30:57 --- quit: ecraven (Remote closed the connection) 12:04:26 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-69-149-51-183.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 12:04:43 --- quit: ygrek () 12:10:19 Hey all. 12:12:01 hi Ray :) 12:12:15 Hey Josh, How are you? 12:15:00 I'm good. 12:15:30 How's by you? 12:15:34 I'm in a funk, but not so much today. :) 12:16:23 hmm 12:16:49 I'm going to ask crc if he'll let me point folendar.com his way, and start trying to earn some money from it. 12:16:53 Thanks for testing it. 12:17:20 I guess I should have told you that the easiest way to use it is a several lists that you can "bring to the top"/ 12:18:29 That is the only benifit I see it has in comparison to your "3x5" idea. 12:18:35 ah. 12:18:45 I like the 3x5 idea as well, and have used it too. 12:18:52 I like to use it for the inventory of things. 12:18:53 may have use for it soon; I'm moving to Maine in a couple of months. 12:19:00 ook 12:19:03 cool. 12:19:07 Maine, ya? 12:19:10 to train and take over operation of a farm my folks are buying. :) 12:19:18 on a lake, no less. :) 12:19:21 WHOA 12:19:25 great pond? 12:19:38 Where? 12:19:41 looks like it. 12:19:44 Near Bangor? 12:19:57 hmm. dunno where Bangor is. 12:20:02 Great Pond is where we used to vacation. 12:20:08 it's about 40 minutes NNW from Augusta. 12:20:21 I see. That would be about right. :) 12:21:19 We used to rent the Main House of a camp site on Great Pond. It would easily sleep 30-40 people. 12:21:24 nice 12:21:39 I loved Maine. 12:22:07 I think ( still ) that that forest is the scariest place i've ever been. :) 12:23:50 hehe 12:24:42 ah. Found Great Pond. 12:25:01 Yeah, pretty close. I think we drove by the corner of it on the way to look at this place. 12:25:27 COOL> then I know just about where you are going to be. 12:25:41 small world :) 12:25:58 Man, some of the houses there are so old that they have like 12" wide floor planks or even wider. 12:26:20 yeah. 12:27:49 My grandfather ( now deceased) built a log cabin kit up there some where. Next time I have some time to stay with family in Mass. I'm gonna see if we can go up and stay there. 12:28:49 cool 13:05:17 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 13:23:47 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.221) joined #forth 14:29:01 hey ray 14:43:17 Hi Quartus_ :) 14:43:27 How are you this fine day? 15:06:13 Cold! 15:06:14 You? 15:11:16 --- quit: crc () 15:13:28 71F here. 15:13:47 After a week of cole. 15:13:51 cold even 15:15:39 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-130-121.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:16:25 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 15:20:48 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 15:22:42 * Raystm2 looking forward to finding out what devices he owns that will have a problem with the NEW daylights savings time, Sunday. 15:58:15 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@ool-45740b1c.dyn.optonline.net) joined #forth 16:12:25 Hey vatic. 16:12:29 How ya been? 16:13:04 Raystm2: I've been good! I passed my oral exams at school! 16:13:29 I had to give oral to pass my exams too, :( 16:13:32 lol 16:13:40 Hey, congrats!!! 16:14:03 Raystm2: guess that depends on who your prof was... 16:14:13 hehe 16:14:26 Raystm2: you sure it wasn't an aural exma? 16:14:36 exma = exam 16:17:41 10-12 or so, I had a case of ecxema so bad that I had to have my legs wrapped in plastic cling wrap before bed so I couldn't scratch untill it cleared up. Never came back either. 16:18:19 knees an ankles especially. I'd scratch them till they bleed. 16:18:29 bled? ya bled. 16:18:34 Raystm2: that's probably what they told Cheney to do for his leg at Walter Reed... 16:18:42 hehe 16:18:50 got bled? 16:19:06 Raystm2: not time for bed. 16:19:10 "We can rebuild him. We can make him faster. " 16:19:17 not just yet, no. 16:19:21 Raystm2: Hahaha! 16:19:47 Raystm2: I know, it's still high noon or something... 16:19:53 What was the sneaker brand that made you "run faster and jump higher" ? 16:20:05 Keds? 16:20:10 6:16pm 16:20:14 Converse? 16:20:24 Raystm2: Wonder Bread also made that claim when I was young... 16:20:28 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 16:20:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 16:20:33 Keds? I don't know. Did we have Keds in the olden days? 16:20:38 did I miss anything? 16:20:42 OH it was wonder bread. 16:20:48 YES q 16:20:54 AH 16:21:10 Raystm2: Builds your body in 12 different ways! 16:21:10 My wife just came in and told me to "make a plate" so you're missing dinner. 16:21:16 I'm making my own. 16:21:33 vatic: It does, doesn't it. I can't have it any more. 16:21:40 Quartus: what are you having? 16:21:48 * Raystm2 goes to make a plate. 16:21:53 brb 16:22:15 What's everyone's opinion of FICL? 16:22:26 It's easily swayed and seldom loyal. Fickle. 16:24:40 Quartus: Is that how it's pronounced? 16:25:26 There's a really great sound editor that now offers a version of FICL as the script lang... 16:25:38 Vatic, I think so. Seems like it would be. 16:26:00 ya I can't imagine a long i sound 16:26:02 FICL is pretty sound, quite fortherrific 16:26:15 Clean code, easily made use of. 16:27:11 http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html 16:28:08 http://sourceforge.net/projects/fth 16:28:16 Just FYI 16:28:46 Thanks for the link! 16:29:02 Snd is the emacs of audio editing, a major piece of work. It's historically used Guile, but there are others such as Forth now intergrated 16:29:03 I thought that snd was Scheme-based 16:29:10 ah, nice 16:29:34 edrx: Guile, Ruby, Forth (FTH) and Gauche, I believe now... 16:30:46 Ya vatic, great links there! 16:31:20 Quartus: FTH isn't happy compiling on OSX right now, but I imagine it's a quick fix... 16:33:00 I'm not an OSXer, I wouldn't venture a guess. 16:33:59 Quartus: not a prob. For me it some weird interaction with Apple's underlying definition of (FILE *) and stdin stdout stderr. 16:35:24 I've been learning a bit more Guile than I would care too. ;-) 16:35:56 Along with Deception and Prevarication? 16:36:47 What's the computer language with the longest name? How many are more than 3 syllables? 16:37:52 hmm. 16:38:09 There are some multi-word ones, but I suppose those don't count 16:38:53 Well, we can make up rules as we go along... 16:39:13 Oberon. There's a 3 syllable one. 16:39:21 'Visual Basic' is 5 syllables, for instance, but that's not fun. 16:40:11 Raystm2: didn't you used to program in Aural Basic? Oral Basic? 16:40:39 INTERCAL, Plankalkul, APL, etc. 16:41:10 Quartus: Major points for Plankalkul! 16:41:25 Visual basic 5 16:41:28 Pepsi Free 16:41:42 Modula-2 or 3 4 each 16:42:06 Whats the name of the longest spelled programming language that is only TWO syls? 16:42:13 POSTSCRIPT maybe? 16:42:23 --- part: edrx left #forth 16:42:28 Raystm2: good answer! 16:42:49 Assembler 16:42:56 3 syllables 16:43:12 'Sembler 16:43:16 hehe vatic just saw your aural comment :) 16:43:34 just saw that Quartus had Vbasic first :( 16:44:30 Sequentielle Formelübersetzung, from the guy who invented stacks 16:44:32 --- join: nighty-- (n=nighty-@66-163-28-100.ip.tor.radiant.net) joined #forth 16:45:05 Mathematica 16:45:28 vrml is 12 16:45:40 vrml isn't even one 16:45:58 sorry, what it stands for ( /me was cheating) 16:46:03 great! Mathematica... 16:46:31 either 5 or 3 there depending on pronunciation. 16:47:02 virtual reality modeling language ( I get to use language in this case because it is part of VRML) 16:47:39 Mathematica has five syllables, regardless of pronounciation. 16:47:52 Indeed you are again correct! 16:49:36 --- quit: nighty- (Read error: 148 (No route to host)) 16:50:43 * Raystm2 goes to microwave to re-heat the meal that got cold during language search. 17:14:01 --- join: xiq_ (n=pix@p213.54.139.151.tisdip.tiscali.de) joined #forth 17:14:10 --- quit: xiq (Nick collision from services.) 17:14:17 --- nick: xiq_ -> xiq 17:22:31 --- quit: Snoopy42 () 17:24:09 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-162-247.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:06:45 --- join: arke (n=chris@pD9E04FFA.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 18:06:46 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 18:46:55 --- quit: azekeprofit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:54:49 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:58:24 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 19:32:13 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 19:32:14 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.98) joined #forth 19:33:14 --- join: Quartus (n=neal@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 19:33:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 19:46:45 --- quit: xiq (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:06:16 --- quit: vatic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 20:19:02 Calling Quartus. Come in Quartus. Are you receiving? Over. 20:19:32 'ere I am, J.H. 20:19:53 J.H. ? :) 20:20:05 Movie. What's up? 20:20:15 Oh that's the title? 20:20:20 Pm please? 20:20:22 Brazil. 20:46:22 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 22:40:22 --- join: arke_ (n=chris@pD9E068E8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 22:48:54 --- quit: arke (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 23:15:29 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 113 (No route to host)) 23:56:16 --- join: ecraven (i=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.03.05