00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.01.29 00:21:13 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 00:47:20 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 01:18:25 --- quit: arke_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 01:33:19 --- join: arke (n=chris@x501.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined #forth 01:33:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 01:52:19 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 02:17:49 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 02:18:39 Guten Tag! 02:20:21 hey ASau 02:58:56 --- join: tgunr (n=chatzill@70-41-217-184.cust.wildblue.net) joined #forth 03:20:32 --- quit: arke (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03:56:11 --- join: arke (n=chris@pD9E04A76.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 03:56:11 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 04:03:19 --- quit: ayrnieu (Connection timed out) 04:08:07 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 04:08:08 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 04:10:47 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.12.67) joined #forth 04:11:04 Good afternoon, edrx! 04:11:44 hi ASau! 04:11:55 good morning :) 04:12:08 What's new in Forth? 04:20:48 I tend to do things in a way that is very different from what's usual in the community 04:21:26 link: (then I'll have to disconnect for a while - dial-up here - and next time you show me your stuff) 04:21:38 http://angg.twu.net/miniforth/miniforth3.abs.txt.html 04:21:39 http://angg.twu.net/miniforth/miniforth3.lua.html 04:22:06 ttyl, sorry :-\ 04:22:13 --- part: edrx left #forth 04:26:12 damn... 04:26:30 me and him have a similar line of thought... 04:27:57 I don't like the way. 04:28:13 How much would it take to bootstrap Lua? 04:28:34 probably not much :-) - could probably be done in forth quite easily... 04:30:07 and that'd be kinda perverse - forth, implementing lua, running miniforth3 (running lua etc) 04:30:33 * grub_booter sees lots of twisty corridors and mirrors 05:05:16 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 05:05:59 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 05:16:33 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 05:16:33 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 05:58:21 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #forth 05:59:01 Guten Abend! 06:16:16 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #forth 06:16:55 Good morning. 06:17:13 Hi Ray 06:17:23 hi all 06:25:52 The work week begins. 06:26:03 Hello tathi, hello grub_booter. 06:26:12 Hope ya'll had a good week end. 06:26:44 likewise 06:27:52 It was good. I was lazy. I made an appeal to whomever happened to take control of the colorforth google group to allow me access to pages and files, but i've had no response. 06:28:08 Somehow, when I started it, I messed up securing it. 06:28:12 ah 06:28:33 From the looks of it, it's happened to a great many managers. 06:29:05 * Ray_work went thru the google help channels. Still waiting for resolution. 06:41:11 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 07:49:23 --- nick: crest_ -> Crest 08:57:13 --- quit: tathi ("bbl") 09:07:32 --- quit: tgunr (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:42:17 --- quit: Quartus_ ("used jmIrc") 09:42:37 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 09:42:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 09:43:54 what excitement today? :) 09:50:59 --- quit: Oyd1111_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:12:32 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:12:32 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:18:36 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 10:18:36 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 10:37:10 * grub_booter plays the star wars lego game on the ps2 with his kid 10:37:32 really impressed with that one 10:37:36 hehe 10:43:07 that's one of the great things about having kids - you can convince your wife/partner that you *must* buy and play video games (it gets harder to justify as you get older - and then kids come along, and whee... second childhood time...) 10:45:07 * tathi isn't so much for playing video games 10:46:02 my family was a late adopter on the technology thing 10:46:53 I like writing and tinkering with them though :) 10:47:00 me neither to be honest - last time i got addicted to anything was quake i think... and even then, it wasn't the game play which hooked me - just the graphics and feel 10:47:13 heh 10:47:42 I like little tiny games with some interesting dynamic to play around with 10:48:34 well, i've certainly have had more out of tetris and minesweeper than any of the big action games 10:48:50 :) 10:50:03 xkobo was my favorite game for quite a while 11:08:26 --- quit: cmeme (Connection reset by peer) 11:10:46 --- join: jacereda (n=jacereda@81-202-227-62.user.ono.com) joined #forth 11:13:59 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 12:25:57 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-bfb89c4d2f50ea55) joined #forth 12:26:34 --- part: ygrek left #forth 13:00:11 --- join: Oyd1111_ (n=oyd111@89.0.170.59.dynamic.barak-online.net) joined #forth 13:25:44 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 13:31:24 --- quit: timlarson_ ("Leaving") 14:14:51 --- join: Baughn_ (n=svein@195134062077.customer.alfanett.no) joined #forth 14:15:12 --- quit: Baughn (Nick collision from services.) 14:15:21 --- nick: Baughn_ -> Baughn 14:22:41 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 14:22:41 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 14:25:34 --- quit: ecraven ("bblr") 14:36:56 finally - in the new office :-D 14:39:32 hey all 14:39:53 hi Quartus_ 14:42:13 hi Quartus 14:58:01 --- quit: crc (Remote closed the connection) 15:01:40 --- join: Qfoo (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 15:02:20 hey. The joys of mobile connectivity. 15:02:28 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:02:42 --- quit: Qfoo (Client Quit) 15:03:00 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 15:03:00 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 15:03:35 whee! 15:07:14 any werties today? I'm out of the loop. 15:08:47 ARM is not regulated as its made in 20 countries . 15:08:47 USA govt can not send military to the ARM countries like its doin in Iraq , and Saudi Arabia and Iran to tax them , steal petroleum ... 15:08:59 hehe 15:09:44 i wasn't aware the US govt sent military to Iran, or that they were collecting taxes from Saudi Arabia. 15:10:08 good thing werty is here to educate you! 15:12:19 Educate werty on the great CPU wars of the late 1970s, where the superpowers risked mutual destruction over the 8008. 15:12:58 haha 15:13:02 luddites 15:14:16 and while we're making shit up, the silicon embargo of 1994 that nearly depleted the Netherlands' national calculator supplies. 15:19:00 lol 15:21:25 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Success) 15:22:00 --- quit: Ray_work ("User pushed the X - because it's Xtra, baby") 15:36:28 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-149-162.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 15:42:22 --- join: arke_ (n=chris@pD9E07AE8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:45:22 --- quit: arke (Nick collision from services.) 15:45:23 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 15:45:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 16:00:13 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-132-17.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 16:29:56 --- join: bjorkBSD (n=bjork@ip70-178-168-191.ks.ks.cox.net) joined #forth 16:35:48 --- join: zpg (n=user@90.241.26.221) joined #forth 16:36:36 hi 16:37:13 --- nick: nanstm -> Raystm2 16:37:27 hi :) 16:38:19 hey Raystm2 16:38:43 How are you today, zpg? 16:38:49 not bad thanks -- yourself? 16:39:03 Similar. ;) 16:39:13 good good. 16:39:17 fairly productive day. 16:39:28 I'm still behind in everything I do. 16:39:29 :) 16:39:34 heh. 16:39:37 aren't we all? 16:39:57 I'm sure you are correct. 16:40:30 oh yeah. Red Dwarf. Liked it? Liked the book better? Where do you lay? 16:41:02 ( it was part of the conversation yesterday and I distinctly remember looking for you) 16:41:29 heh, okay. never read any of the books, quite enjoyed the TV show, excluding the latter series. 16:41:38 *later 16:41:55 later as in like from what 7th or even earlier? 16:42:32 When Kochanski joins and they end up recreating Red Dwarf? That stuff? 16:42:58 yeah the reintroduction of red dwarf i found weak. 16:43:07 i recall series 5 being pretty good. 16:43:13 agreed. 16:43:38 most memorable though was ace "smoke be a skipper i'll be back for breakfast" rimmer. 16:43:47 Quartus_ hit the book first and that ruined the show for him. I believe he said something to that nature. 16:44:04 Well, the show really isn't all that strong. The book wasn't amazing either, just better than the show. 16:44:32 I should read it. 16:44:40 Some witty bits. 16:44:50 Kind of a Douglas Adams imitation. 16:45:02 --- quit: jacereda (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:45:08 if you're going to imitate someone... 16:45:14 I suppose if you had Doug first... 16:45:35 If you're going to imitate someone, stop. Do something else. 16:45:49 * zpg shrugs 16:46:07 * Raystm2 hides Quartus_ suit behind back. 16:46:09 like i said, i didn't read the book. 16:46:35 Let me see if I remember the names. Grant Naylor ... and somebody else. Co-authored. 16:46:56 That's right so far as I remember. 16:47:21 Rob Grant and Doug Naylor 16:47:23 Ah ok. Wikipedia says "Grant Naylor was the collective name used by writers Rob Grant and Doug Naylor for their collaborative work, particularly the television series Red Dwarf. " 16:48:01 cool cool. 16:48:23 what brought about the red dwarf discussion? Quartus reading the book? 16:48:33 no, ray made some reference to it 16:48:51 I read it years back 16:49:04 ok. 16:49:08 --- part: bjorkBSD left #forth 16:49:12 I was going to quote something from it yesterday when I first qualified the referance by asking Quartus_ if he'd seen it. 16:49:22 I read Grant' 16:49:30 Grant's "Incompetence" too. 16:49:36 Though I'd be challenged to remember the plot of it now. 16:51:40 --- join: bjorkBSD (n=bjork@ip70-178-168-191.ks.ks.cox.net) joined #forth 16:51:47 is red dwarf a good tv show or something? 16:51:52 ... like dr who? 16:52:07 I remember an interview with Patrick Steward, talking about the first Red Dwarf he'd seen. He states that he was about to call some big wigs at StarTrek to tell them that Red Dwarf was ripping of a story... then he realized what it was... 16:52:38 hi bjorkBSD 16:52:56 Ya that's right, a BBC series. SciFi Space Spoof. 16:52:58 'sup 16:53:06 ah. i'm watching it now. 16:53:12 where? 16:53:16 ... tv-links.co.uk 16:53:17 online. 16:53:21 You know I think I read Better Than Life, Backwards, and Colony, too, and I'm damned if I can recall a thing about them. 16:53:23 I may own them. 16:53:43 Yup, I do. 16:53:47 hehe. 16:53:51 how much? 16:54:03 How much do I own them? I own them all the way, baby. 16:54:44 No, how much to take them off your hands. Remember, I buy the books you no longer need, right? 16:55:04 True, you are the final stop . 16:55:15 true about cars too. 16:55:18 Let me assemble my Naylors and I'll let you know. 16:55:42 cool cool. 17:02:12 if you don't make room for new stuff... 17:03:20 bjorkBSD, hey, thanks for that link. Lots of stuff i'd like to see there. 17:03:50 yeah sorry about that. 17:03:54 it's distraction central. 17:03:57 is there a new BSD variant centred around icelandic pop? 17:03:59 worse than the web itself. 17:04:00 heh. 17:04:10 zpg there'll be once bjork gets here :D 17:04:10 sure. I know. I grew up with the habit. 17:04:23 Raystm2: icelandic pop? 17:04:28 hard to shake. 17:04:30 hehe. 17:04:31 tv 17:04:41 you could combine your two interests. 17:04:45 watch bjork on tv. 17:04:48 I'm generation-tv 17:04:48 Ragnarcoke. 17:05:05 whosh.. right over head. :) 17:07:56 Raystm2: see Rather's post? 17:08:07 http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/msg/0956d4bc44db67c5 relevant to your queries. 17:08:30 (perhaps) 17:08:47 ty going. 17:08:50 I agree with Passaniti's reply 17:09:00 Quartus_: sure. 17:30:04 * Raystm2 got into the thread. 17:30:55 I liked that Hendix bit about the web server. 17:32:57 I found a bug. I found a bug. 17:33:09 huh? 17:33:14 Click open that zpg link above. 17:33:18 Then. 17:34:32 go to the thread by choosing the link "Message from discusion "not enough forth projects" 17:35:05 at the top of the thread choos More options 17:35:38 then choose "show message list." 17:35:44 and tell me what you get. 17:36:31 * Raystm2 gets the very last page that I ever had the list loaded. 17:36:47 NOT the actual list for the thread that we were reading. 17:37:34 err, this topic is a subthread. 17:37:36 scroll down the list 17:37:53 to #263 17:39:05 I'd have found that post if I wasn't talking in this chat. I had that very thread open on my desktop since sat-nite. 17:39:18 :) 17:39:23 Man I was duped I tell ya! :) 17:40:25 I should prob'ly go back to watching tv for a hobby. Apparently, it's more my speed. :) 17:41:00 * Raystm2 wishes he'd start making money for a hobby so that he can hobby for a living. 17:43:50 brb, fat cat wants in. 18:11:49 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 18:23:10 --- join: arke_ (n=chris@pD9E07AE8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 18:23:52 --- quit: arke (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 19:23:51 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 19:27:25 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@200.217.105.30) joined #forth 19:57:35 --- part: bjorkBSD left #forth 19:57:41 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.130) joined #forth 19:57:47 hi 20:06:12 --- quit: edrx (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 20:10:47 Quartus: so i've started work on the arm port, finally. 20:11:15 Hey slava. Going well? 20:11:37 i've hardly done anything yet. got the C code to compile and run, which entailed a few fixes 20:11:45 stubbed out the compiler backend 20:11:49 i'm writing the assembler tomorrow 20:11:58 what are you building on? 20:12:09 writing my own. i've been reading the specs 20:12:25 hardware, I mean? 20:12:27 --- quit: segher (Nick collision from services.) 20:12:38 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-143-251.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 20:12:46 an emulator for now 20:13:10 at some point in the near future i'll reflash my gumstix and develop on that 20:13:18 the emulator i'm using is qemu, and its dreadfully slow, i'm afraid 20:14:05 its probably as fast as a 20mhz chip 20:15:37 i wouldn't mind the speed if gcc wasn't so slow 20:15:46 I can imagine. 20:15:48 and yes, i tried to set up a cross compiling arm gcc on my debian box, and it didn't work, i'm going to try again later 20:16:08 You'd definitely want to run cross if your emu is that slow. 20:16:24 well, i don't really have to change much in the C code 20:16:26 Or a way lighter C compiler. 20:16:57 heh, do any exist for arm? 20:17:39 Probably, but I wouldn't be able to point at one. 20:18:16 no problem 20:18:34 gcc-cross-arm didn't compile because of some header file issues. shouldn't be too hard to sort out 20:18:56 That's the right route. 20:36:12 --- quit: snowrichard (Remote closed the connection) 22:07:03 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.130) joined #forth 22:07:08 hi 22:07:14 hi 22:08:13 got a netbsd vax install running on simh in another window 22:14:13 oh yes. 22:18:09 --- quit: Crest ("Leaving") 22:21:26 so what's new? 22:22:21 Nothing too exciting. 22:22:23 How about you? 22:22:35 my kittens have their eyes open now :) 22:23:01 neat :) 22:25:36 got to stretch a bit my legs hurt 22:25:43 k 22:31:22 I bought a VAX architecture manual on Ebay 22:31:41 replacing one that burned a few years ago 22:31:59 Everything's on ebay. :) 22:32:19 america's garage sale 22:36:02 dog wants in 22:36:33 too stupid to use the pet door, the cats use it though 22:42:33 packages all unpacked 22:48:12 simulated vax booted and I logged in. That was faster than the real one 23:27:18 --- quit: snowrichard (Remote closed the connection) 23:32:19 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.01.29