00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.01.25 00:00:44 --- join: slava_ (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 00:02:50 --- quit: slava_ (Client Quit) 00:03:17 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 00:03:32 Guten Morgen! 00:08:16 --- quit: slava (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:22:07 JasonWoof: heh - well, if it's an approximation, it is could be considered an abstraction ("a general concept formed by extracting common features from specific examples"), but in truth, i'm not entirely sure what he intended by that statement 00:24:44 you could also abstract them by treating fp's as rational numerator/denominator pairs? theoretically anyway, whether it's practical is another matter :-) 00:25:09 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 00:25:37 I've advanced more in my fight against Gforth. 00:25:40 well, all rational numbers are so expressable 00:25:51 Now build stops at 'make checkone...' 00:25:55 but that leaves out a lot of numbers 00:26:30 fission: this set left is unpractical in great part of it. 00:26:55 right 00:26:57 fission: i meant that the type would store two rationals - hence 1/3 would be 1.0 and 3.0 :-) 00:27:19 The set of constructive numbers is enumerable. 00:27:19 ASau: but in many cases, irrational numbers are necessary 00:27:28 ASau: and an approximation is insufficient 00:27:57 grub_booter: oh haha 00:28:19 fission: Those necessary irrationals belong to very limited set. 00:28:20 grub_booter: doesn't that defeat the purpose? to store a rational as two rationals? 00:28:35 ASau: that doesn't obviate their necessary use 00:28:48 ASau: or provide a convincing argument to only store rationals 00:28:56 anyhow, this whole discussion is silly heh 00:29:21 fission: Actually, the only practical numbers are rationals. 00:29:36 heh you're missing my point 00:29:42 You never get irrational number in practice. 00:29:51 so I'll stop talking now 00:29:55 indeed :-) - i was just playing devils advocate for pv there... 00:30:03 grub_booter: haha you were filling in for him ;-) 00:30:05 Thus you don't nee to store irrationals. 00:30:12 fission: yup :-) 00:30:22 ASau: you're wrong 00:30:33 ASau: you need to store irrationals up to a certain precision 00:30:37 fission: I'm right. 00:30:41 --- join: uiuiuiu (n=ian@schihei.net) joined #forth 00:30:42 ASau: you're muted 00:31:00 umm - irrationals are all over the place in practice... 00:31:16 "Irrationals up to a certain precision" are rationals. 00:31:33 Thus there's still no need to store them. 00:32:01 well, i guess that backs up my abstraction case :-) 00:32:05 hahhaa 00:32:12 pv wins 00:32:14 :-) 00:35:33 and on another note... i upgraded my internet connection today - woot - 40 Mbit/s down 00:35:38 :-D 00:36:01 --- quit: uiuiuiu ("Lost terminal") 00:36:32 crappy 384 kbit/s up though (wah) 00:36:33 wow 00:36:36 what is it? 00:36:42 cable 00:36:46 nice 00:36:58 yeah - pretty good - apart from the up... 00:37:33 and the fact that i'm using dlan, hooked up to wlan and getting < 10 Mbit/s to this machine :-) 00:37:39 I was looking into SDSL, but it's hella expensive 00:37:46 how much do you pay, if you don't mind my asking? 00:38:01 70 euro/month for this package - not cheap :-/ 00:38:06 wowsa 00:38:06 yeah 00:38:13 is it worth it? hehe 00:40:24 and that's before VAT (or BTW as it's known here) - comes up to 85 all tolled.. 00:40:55 what does BTW mean? 00:41:03 well, in a way it is worth it - my company needs expenses (in order to recoup BTW) 00:41:24 hmm - ah... not a native speaker, so would be able to spell it... 00:41:31 oh heh ok 00:41:43 i just call it 'by the way' as in 'by the way, you owe us more money' 00:42:48 hahaha 00:42:53 Belasting over de toegevoegde waarde (BTW) 00:43:02 no wonder you can't spell it on-demand hehe 00:43:13 :-D 00:55:59 * grub_booter gives it a whirl with some bittorrents - purely for benchmarking purposes of course.. 01:23:33 grub_booter: that's the trouble with PoppaVic, nobody can ever be really sure what the heck he's trying to say 01:23:39 not even if you ask lots of questions 01:23:55 the problem isn't that he's wrong 01:24:04 it's that we can't make any sense out of anything he says 01:24:29 the only thing I understand from anything he's said is that he doesn't like auto-tools 01:24:47 well, that shows taste and maturity 01:24:51 :-) 01:25:06 not a great signal/noise ratio though 01:25:23 (rant: autotools are a complete pain in the arse...) 01:25:31 right 01:25:50 now imagine that you read 3MB of text, and that was the only part you cound make any kind of sense out of 01:26:09 and of course you could make sense out of it probably the first time 01:26:23 probably somewhere in the next 200 times you'd get sick of hearing it 01:26:30 well, i dunno - i hang out on #c sometimes, and i tend to find more fault in Zhivago's comments than i do in pv's 01:27:00 yeah, PV isn't horrible, it's just meaningless babble 01:27:25 trouble is, when he came in here and babbled the intelligence of the discussion in here would plummet 01:27:42 because people would either respond and/or get drowned out 01:28:35 fair enough i guess - he does have a case of verbal diarrhea 01:30:43 I think in a channel with much more traffic, it wouldn't be such a problem 01:30:51 but here he was more than half the traffic 01:31:25 and most of the rest was people saying things like "what?" and "no, " 01:33:04 possibly - and i confess that i find #c's traffic volume headache inducing - can only handle it for a short while - but then, i'm not particularly quick (at thought, reading and writing, or getting my shoes on when my wife insists on it... :-)) 01:41:11 you're wife makes you wear shoes? 01:41:34 it's times like these when I appreciate being single :) 01:45:03 :-) 01:45:17 she also insists i get out of my dressing gown in the morning... 01:45:42 (and into clothes in case that sounded like a good thing..) 01:48:44 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.130) joined #forth 01:48:52 hi 01:48:57 hi 01:49:37 can you take a look at http://schizohrenicprogrammer.info/store/index.php and see if it looks reasonably laid out? 01:49:58 Hmm. 01:50:11 My boostrapping Gforth does not pass tests. 01:50:16 Firefox can't find the server at www.schizohrenicprogrammer.info 01:50:16 aww 01:50:32 can you take a look at http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info/store/index.php and see if it looks reasonably laid out? 01:50:35 ASau: the one from netbsd? 01:50:39 Yes. 01:50:40 spelling 01:51:28 ah - yup 01:51:33 yeah - looks ok 01:51:33 seems fine here 01:52:05 just coded the page from scratch in about 2 hrs 01:52:08 Fine. 01:52:35 the database is from a place I can download the images and product data file. 01:54:30 got a script to reload the database automatically when I get new files. 01:55:41 thanks 02:02:48 grub_booter: shame about the clothes 02:02:50 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 02:03:16 ASau: it seems some of those patches have been integrated? 02:04:13 fission: That does not help. 02:05:13 First, Gforth still continues using "m4 -s" and does not 02:05:13 *** have make variable to simplify replacing m4 -> gm4. 02:05:35 hmm 02:05:57 Second, it looks there're problems with environment "poisoning". 02:06:27 Relatively sane environment does not help. 02:06:30 anything that has a build process of ./SOME-EXECUTABLE scares me 02:06:41 except maybe build.sh 02:06:42 Currently, I use this: 02:07:02 env -i PATH=$PATH GFORTH="`which gforth` -i /usr/pkg/lib/gforth/0.6.2/gforth.fi" sh -x BUI* --enable-force-regs 02:08:02 I have to specify Gforth image file, 'cause otherwise it 02:08:02 *** takes it from . 02:08:10 That's wrong, obviously. 02:08:14 right 02:09:32 Currently, I've stopped at checks. 02:09:45 make checkone check-nofast ENGINE="./gforth --no-dynamic" >/dev/null 2>&1 02:09:45 *** Error code 1 02:09:45 02:10:03 (End of make log) 02:14:30 Does anyone know what I may feed to "configure" to assure 02:14:30 *** it I do have all this ffcall stuff? 02:21:19 I would think you could just do CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/pkg/include LDFLAGS='-L/usr/pkg/lib -R/usr/pkg/lib' 02:21:37 er and ./configure 02:21:38 on the same line 02:24:54 hi again 02:25:06 found a little bug in the page and fixed it 02:25:28 have to urlencode the category before passing it to the next script. 02:30:29 fission: Thanks, that helps. 02:31:08 need some java now that that's done lol 02:32:14 fission: Though it results in build error. 02:33:10 what's the error now? 02:33:22 you building gforth? 02:33:41 fission: I need CFLAGS, not CPPFLAGS. 02:33:47 snowrichard: Yes. 02:34:04 I'm bootstrapping current Gforth on NetBSD. 02:34:19 oh ok I don't have a bsd install at all 02:34:38 Without much success. 02:34:58 Currently, bootstrapped Gforth does not pass its internal checks. 02:38:57 ASau: well, for include, it should be cppflags or cxxflags 02:39:02 ASau: but the makefile might be broken 02:40:23 fission: I don't know why, but with CFLAGS it builds and 02:40:23 *** with CPPFLAGS it does not. 02:40:36 ok 02:40:42 well so long as it builds :D 02:41:22 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 02:41:35 your IRC client has odd line-continuation 02:45:22 http://forth.pastebin.ca/327890 02:45:26 fission: I see. 02:45:38 I don't know why it happens. 02:46:06 It seems to depend on the phase of the Moon. 02:49:37 any way to tell at what point the test fails? 02:49:49 (is there a workable gforth bin there to play with?) 02:51:56 heh what's PATH=$PATH for? 02:52:58 "env -i" clears all the environment. 02:53:11 oh heh I didn't notice the env line 02:56:15 whoo I can almost go to bed 03:00:17 I'm busy finding this point of failure. 03:11:13 Hmmm. 03:11:24 0.6.2 does not pass failing tests. 03:12:17 hmmm 03:22:55 Current state of affair: 03:23:08 current CVS version 03:23:38 2 patches (Makefile.in and test/gforth.fs) 03:23:52 1 make file to rule them all. 03:24:17 and that works? 03:24:21 No. 03:24:36 There're failing tests, relating to: 03:24:44 / /mod */ sm/rem um/mod 03:24:50 some f.p. stuff. 03:25:04 / /mod */ sm/rem um/mod 03:25:36 If anyone is interested, I can publish my patches and make file. 03:25:52 E.g. shar file on forth.pastebin.ca 03:52:35 http://forth.pastebin.ca/327933 04:14:54 cool 04:15:49 There's nothing cool in program that does not work. 04:16:12 I think of going back in past in search for the version that works. 04:16:44 The problem is ... it's CVS. 04:23:19 is gforth really that good? heh 04:27:13 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 04:27:13 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 04:51:22 hi tathi 04:51:38 just finished my new web page design 04:51:52 http;//schizophrenicprogrammer.info 04:55:01 brb 04:56:42 http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info 04:58:13 hi php 05:01:04 hi snowrichard 05:04:49 sorry was in the wrong channel when I typed that 05:05:04 php 05:05:33 got my store online just now 05:09:06 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 05:09:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 05:19:23 fission: Gforth is really good. 05:19:41 Even if it's bloated etc. 05:20:45 hi quartus 05:20:51 Hi. 05:24:42 did a new web thing last night. 05:25:12 a store 05:31:04 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-69-149-52-25.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 05:31:53 http://forth.pastebin.ca/327933 05:32:23 Check on BSDs. 05:33:00 does it work for you then? 05:33:08 No. 05:33:19 I don't have Free/Open here. 05:33:48 Wait! 05:34:23 If you have Linux, the info may be very helpful. 05:34:45 At least, I'll be sure, the problem is BSD-specific. 05:35:27 You need to replace gm4 with m4 in Makefile.in 05:36:31 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 05:38:03 --- quit: snowrichard (Remote closed the connection) 05:46:30 --- quit: Raystm2- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:05:15 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 06:25:19 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #forth 06:42:53 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-68-93-113-111.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 06:51:56 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-b42b641257ee0335) joined #forth 06:52:28 --- quit: nanstm (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:04:33 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 07:13:04 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:18:44 Dobryj vecher! 07:30:49 anyone know of an usb mounted forth chip? (just curious) 07:33:04 what do you mean by "usb mounted"? 07:33:15 (and no, I don't) 07:34:31 http://www.mpeforth.com/usbstamp.htm <- might be what I am looking for 07:36:29 so...you meant "that can be programmed over USB?" 07:36:55 in big strokes, yes 07:52:41 dolche vita! 08:08:39 wewt just won 15c! 08:25:34 --- join: mark4_ (n=mark4@70.102.202.162) joined #forth 08:25:47 --- quit: mark4 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:38:50 --- quit: ASau (Remote closed the connection) 08:53:37 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 08:53:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 08:54:49 hey hey 08:58:36 hey hey sir, how are you. 08:58:49 ? 09:05:21 good thanks! You? 09:08:54 Well, well, thanks :) 09:09:04 Havn't seen zpg much last couple days. 09:10:22 We were talking about his list code end of last week, we promissed to get back together but... 09:12:54 MSNBC news... idiots... just reported that viagra is involved in the spread of AIDs because using Viagra in combination with crystal meth leads to unsafe sex. 09:30:19 --- quit: tattrdkat (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:37:53 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 09:46:40 thats along the same lines as "guns cause crime" lol 09:46:45 or... matches cause arson ? 09:47:31 does this only happen if you crush the viagra and smoke it ? 09:57:19 It would take less will power to lose weight if the taco truck down the street didn't make such a good torta. 10:04:16 hehe both. 10:04:19 hi both 10:13:02 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.130) joined #forth 10:13:10 hi 10:15:41 --- quit: snowrichard (Remote closed the connection) 10:18:16 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:18:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:23:49 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10:32:42 --- quit: virsys (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:32:42 --- quit: Cheery (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:32:42 --- quit: arke_ (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:32:42 --- quit: grub_booter (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:32:42 --- quit: crc (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:32:42 --- quit: Quartus (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 10:33:29 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 10:34:27 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 10:35:20 --- join: neceve (n=Clau@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- join: crc (n=crc@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- join: arke_ (n=chris@pD9E07544.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- join: grub_booter (n=charlie@d54C37EE9.access.telenet.be) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 10:39:17 --- mode: irc.freenode.net set +oo crc Quartus 11:01:53 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p54894DA8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 11:10:39 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:12:54 --- join: ASau (n=user@62.118.220.74) joined #forth 11:17:38 --- join: jacereda (n=jacereda@81-202-227-62.user.ono.com) joined #forth 11:37:40 jacereda: http://forth.pastebin.ca/327933 11:38:40 Check this on BSDs and Linuces, if possible. 12:15:48 ASau, where did you get that from? 12:24:38 ASau, did you fill a PR for pkgsrc? 12:25:14 he has been having trouble getting the cvs version of gforth to build under NetBSD 12:25:32 A believe that's his (not yet entirely successful) attempt at getting it to work 12:37:30 --- join: molokai (i=molokai@226.Red-81-40-192.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 12:38:51 Ah, ok... well, I wouldn't be surprised if a CVS checkout didn't pass regression tests, that's normal... OTOH it could be a good idea to notify that in the gforth mailing list 12:47:30 This is what I get on linux-ppc: 12:47:35 redefined { WRONG NUMBER OF RESULTS: { 1 0 ' / catch -> 1 0 -10 } WRONG NUMBER OF RESULTS: { 1 0 ' mod catch -> 1 0 -10 } INCORRECT RESULT: { 1 0 ' /mod catch -> 1 0 -10 } WRONG NUMBER OF RESULTS: { max-n invert -1 ' / catch 0= -> max-n invert -1 false } WRONG NUMBER OF RESULTS: { max-n invert -1 ' mod catch 0= -> max-n invert -1 false } INCORRECT RESULT: { max-n invert -1 ' /mod catch 0= -> max-n 12:47:35 invert -1 false } 12:49:45 1 0 / 12:49:54 seems seriously broken 12:50:13 with gforth-ditc 12:51:36 oddly enough, plain gforth seems correct 12:54:12 jacereda: That's CVS version, not pkgsrc. 12:56:53 I get the regression test problems above 12:57:11 it's due to gforth-ditc being compiled without -DGFORTH_DEBUGGING 12:57:29 if that's intentional, then those checks simply don't make sense 12:59:09 ok folks, here's for your ~/.vimrc: 12:59:10 "fix all the stupid meta-characters that word puts in: ~R-> ' ~V-> - ~S-> " ~T-> " ~E-> ... 12:59:13 noremap gw :%s/146/'/g:%s/150/-/g:%s/147/"/g:%s/148/"/g:%s/133/.../g 13:00:47 jacereda: cool, you have linux-ppc too? 13:00:55 yes 13:00:57 CVS version is far ahead of stable 0.6.2, I've got used to 13:00:57 year's 2006 features, so I'd like to have CVS Gforth. 13:01:36 jacereda: what distro? how do you like it? 13:01:43 asau, are you getting the same problems as me? 13:02:09 jason, gentoo, it's the less disgusting linux distro for me, as I'm a BSD guy ;-) 13:02:48 I have gentoo too 13:02:54 as does tathi 13:03:24 miles better than my crippled old yellow dog install 13:03:27 asau, if that's the case, simply defining the -DGFORTH_DEBUGGING in engine/Makefile for gforth-ditc.o and main-ditc.o fixes the regression tests 13:03:48 jason, which machine do you have? 13:03:54 I recently started using FreeBSD and I'm enthralled 13:04:02 dual G4 450 13:04:17 a mac? 13:04:30 my home computer with gentoo is a mac 13:04:30 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 13:04:39 I'm running FreeBSD on my x86 server 13:04:41 mine is an ODW 13:04:56 what's ODW? 13:05:03 Open Desktop Workstation 13:05:34 http://www.pegasosppc.com/odw.php 13:05:55 oh, pegasos 13:05:56 cool 13:06:02 how's that work? 13:06:11 slow :-) 13:06:15 heh 13:06:16 1 Ghz isn't much for today's standards 13:06:43 besides, we don't have good 3D acceleration 13:07:47 I've got dual 450MHz 13:08:20 so, that should teach me not to complain ;-) 13:08:38 heh. all depends on what software you're running. 13:09:28 personally I think 1 Ghz is much 13:09:48 I'm perfectly happy with it, I just need emacs, firefox, ion, gcc and forths 13:09:57 huh. That's pretty much what I'm running 13:10:04 except vim instead of emacs 13:10:25 firefox is slow, of course 13:10:37 I use dillo or lynx whenever possible 13:10:41 don't tell me you're also using a dvorak mapping ;-) 13:10:44 yes 13:10:52 well, firefox is a mess 13:11:05 I use dvorak too :) 13:11:09 me too! 13:11:13 and ion 13:11:20 when I would have the time to learn dvorak then I would try it. 13:11:22 yeah, firefox is not only slow, it has an atrocious user interface too :) 13:11:30 yeah 13:11:45 although said interface is considerably less buggy for me now that I upgraded to 2.0 13:11:56 (firefox) 13:12:16 I still hate it, but at least the interface mostly works the way it was (badly) designed 13:12:24 heh 13:12:40 I can't stand it when it freezes saying "looking up host xxx" when I hit the "back" button 13:12:41 one of these months I'll get around to upgrading my software 13:12:45 really I will :) 13:12:46 guys, we should create a club, ppc+dvorak+forth+ion users... I think we would have 3 members at most ;-) 13:13:02 oh, at least! 13:13:05 heh 13:14:02 as for the browser, my preference is links -G (not lynx) 13:14:29 that is, links compiled with graphics support 13:14:35 ah 13:15:00 can you have a links.conf file that specifis run in gfx mode so you dont have to keep typing -G ? 13:15:04 I think I decided links's key bindings were too annoying and I didn't want to take the time to change them :) 13:15:08 i use -G too occasionally 13:16:11 mark, I don't know, I usually start all my programs from my .xsession, so it doesn't bother me 13:17:00 I haven't tried links -G in many years 13:17:13 I tried it on my yellow dog arount 2000 or 2001 13:17:18 didn't work that well 13:17:38 I submitted a patch so it would get the 15-bit (or was it 16-bit) colors right 13:17:56 it got the bit-pattern wrong so white showed as bright yellow 13:17:57 etc 13:18:10 I just installed elinks yesterday, and it seems pretty good 13:19:20 does elinks also have graphics mode? 13:19:54 yeah, I think so. I haven't tried it though 13:20:06 it apparently has some CSS and javascript support 13:32:54 --- quit: ygrek () 13:35:31 --- join: timlarson__ (n=timlarso@user-12l325b.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 13:44:35 --- join: zpg (n=user@90.241.26.221) joined #forth 13:50:16 --- quit: timlarson (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:09:31 * Ray_work is not a club member :( 14:09:52 I do use dvorak, well, a form of it. 14:11:50 * Ray_work doesn't think he really belongs here. not yet anyway. Goes back to learking 14:12:04 is that lurking or learning? 14:12:16 yes 14:12:21 how have you been 14:12:23 ? 14:12:23 :) and hello there. 14:12:28 okay thanks, yourself? 14:12:48 excellent. Way behind in everything I owe the world. 14:13:06 a sense of debt? 14:13:15 Not at all. 14:13:33 A sence of trying to accomplish more then a life time will allow. 14:13:51 Not debt but deficit. :) 14:14:37 heh. 14:16:12 in order to program in my favorite language everyday I have to find a way to be payed for it, or build a business that allows me a walk away income. 14:17:19 you want to programme professionally? 14:17:32 I believe that I missed my calling, yes. 14:18:06 it came down to a decision when I was in eight grade. 14:18:33 I picked electronics as my HighSchool focus when I had the chance to program instead. 14:27:10 ok so clf has just been spammed totally to death, i dont even know why i keep looking in there 14:32:14 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 14:35:17 --- quit: crest_ ("Leaving") 14:40:09 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p54894DA8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 14:40:14 join #dylan 14:40:32 sry error in my **** script 14:44:56 dylan as in apple? 14:44:56 Crest: did you see I posted a tarball of my assembler? 14:48:57 how would you recursivly delete every single .svn directory under a given path? 14:49:10 ive got a tree thats got about 4000 odd sub dirs and every sub dir has a .svn 14:49:13 and i want to remove those dirs 14:49:43 I'd probably use find 14:49:58 erm. yea - im not good at shell :) 14:50:24 sorry, had to check it myself 14:50:51 rm -rf `find . -name '.svn'` 14:51:00 also, svn has an export command 14:51:08 like checkout, but makes a source tree without the .svn dirs 14:51:30 too late. i already got the svn dirs. and it takes 3 days to check this repo out :) 14:51:36 which is why im creating this local copy 14:51:39 I figured 14:51:42 ill update it every now and then 14:51:47 but it was worth mentioning :) 14:52:39 ya :) 14:53:42 your assembler a ppc assembler ? 14:54:15 yes 14:54:35 I think it's complete (for Motorola 32-bit CPUs) 14:54:48 url ? 14:54:51 Forth syntax, of course :) 14:54:59 i knew it would be :P 14:55:03 http://qualdan.com/forth/ppc-asm-0.1.tar.gz 14:55:56 oh. don't look at the code, it's ugly. :) 14:56:35 uses two-level defining words 14:56:50 and it defines the variant forms automatically 14:57:12 the syntax is nice, but the code to do it is pretty scary 14:58:44 svn export isn't like checkout, it's applied to a currently checked-out source tree to save it in another location without the .svn directories 14:59:37 aha NOW you tell me lol 14:59:45 thats how i can do this 14:59:48 I was coding :-) 15:00:32 oh. 15:01:00 i think originally it only worked on a url 15:01:07 svn update first repo. svn export it over the top of the second repo. svn commit second repo 15:01:13 ill have to test that :) 15:01:15 nope, a checked out copy suffices 15:01:24