00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.01.16 00:00:22 yesss 00:00:23 did my work 00:00:27 earned my keep 00:02:04 and for my next trick, I'll fail to go to bed when I should (now) 00:11:49 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 00:46:36 --- quit: slava () 00:54:14 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:14:36 --- quit: arke_ (Connection timed out) 01:32:53 --- join: arke (i=chris@x268.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined #forth 01:32:53 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 01:59:04 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:08:20 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 02:55:19 --- quit: ayrnieu (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 03:25:11 --- quit: arke (Connection timed out) 04:03:03 --- join: arke (i=chris@130.83.72.18) joined #forth 04:03:03 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 04:55:56 --- quit: arke (Connection timed out) 05:33:34 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 05:33:34 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 05:33:43 --- join: zpg (n=user@90.240.56.211) joined #forth 05:41:29 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #forth 05:49:56 --- nick: Raystm2- -> nanstm 05:57:55 hey 06:11:42 good morning 06:15:16 how goes it? 06:16:40 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 06:25:17 it goes well 06:25:40 finally getting down to the part where I get to actually generate a target Forth system. :) 06:27:18 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #forth 06:28:05 I should have done this years ago. It's so nice not to have to fight with a standard assembler/C toolchain. 06:28:44 hey 06:29:38 hi zpg 06:29:57 hi tathi 06:44:22 --- join: madwork (n=foo@204.138.110.15) joined #forth 06:52:19 --- quit: zpg ("be back later") 07:11:44 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:52:02 --- quit: timlarson_ ("Leaving") 10:20:20 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 10:20:20 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 10:28:41 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.162) joined #forth 10:29:54 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 10:43:36 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 10:54:55 --- join: MagicuserLevel3 (n=gschuett@4.38.41.141) joined #forth 10:54:55 --- mode: ChanServ set +b *!*@4.38.41.* 10:54:55 --- part: MagicuserLevel3 left #forth 10:58:23 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 10:58:47 --- mode: tathi set -b *!*@4.38.41.* 11:02:31 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-144-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:29:29 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-d133e37ae6e928f3) joined #forth 11:50:30 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 12:01:14 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@200.217.105.90) joined #forth 12:14:02 --- part: ygrek left #forth 12:15:15 --- part: edrx left #forth 12:35:05 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 12:35:05 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 13:06:59 --- join: Jules_ (i=Jules@cp550544-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) joined #forth 13:10:10 --- join: dextrogiro (i=dragon@185.Red-81-40-192.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 13:22:29 --- quit: Jules_ ("Ik ga weg") 13:32:04 --- quit: dextrogiro () 13:43:21 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:45:26 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 13:45:26 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 14:09:12 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 15:01:47 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.137) joined #forth 15:02:37 --- join: arke (n=chris@pD9E07EDC.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:02:37 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 15:06:49 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:07:27 what is a good forth for windows ? 15:07:46 For what, writing turnkey GUI apps? 15:07:53 yes 15:08:10 SwiftForth. 15:08:14 I need to access the TCP/IP stack 15:08:28 you have to pay for it ? 15:09:29 SwiftForth isn't free, no. 15:09:35 Win32Forth is free. 15:22:38 --- quit: Ray_work (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:23:41 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:23:41 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 15:23:42 Quartus: i 15:23:46 i've figured it out! 15:23:50 werty developed the apple iphone 15:23:53 heh 15:24:02 doubt levels rising 15:26:03 --- part: edrx left #forth 15:56:57 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 15:56:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 16:18:08 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-54438354.lns4-c8.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 16:18:30 hey hey 16:18:33 hi Quartus 16:18:48 How's it going? 16:19:07 it goes. You/ 16:19:10 ? 16:19:17 Well thanks. 16:20:27 It's also in transit here. 16:20:53 meaning...? 16:21:12 it goes. 16:23:44 been battling with the palm pilot today, which seems to have reset itself in my absence. 16:24:05 though amusingly i looked over the list code written on-board, and furrowed my brow at the terrible factoring :) 16:24:21 review is always useful. 16:25:01 very much so. and self-criticm. 16:25:07 which is much like self-criticism. 16:25:14 just quicker. 16:25:32 heh 16:25:42 what's new at your end? 16:25:52 Nothing noteworthy, today. 16:25:58 and yesterday? 16:26:14 nor then. You? 16:29:08 zilch-o 16:29:14 an exciting life i lead. 16:40:53 * slava is learning about the arm 16:41:07 fun? 16:41:15 yeah, writing an assembler for it will be tricky though 16:41:35 there are some existing ones in Forth, if that helps. 16:41:53 actually, a quick google search didn't turn up any 16:41:54 got links? 16:42:04 One ships with Quartus Forth, albeit 16-bits. 16:42:28 It's in the library archive in the evaluation version. 16:42:52 thumb? 16:43:18 No. 16:43:35 so what does 16 bits mean? 16:43:44 I mean it's written for a 16-bit Forth. 16:43:51 but arm is 32-bit...? 16:44:03 Yes. The assembler generates 32-bit code, but it is written for a 16-bit Forth. 16:44:05 i must be thick 16:44:23 oh, ok, so it only supports 16 bit operands? 16:44:43 No. It supports 32-bit operands. It is written to run in a Forth with a 16-bit stack width. 16:44:59 ah! 16:45:05 you run it under quartusforth? 16:45:12 Right. That's why it ships with Quartus Forth. :) 16:45:24 any plans to ditch the m68k? :) 16:45:34 That's the VM for Palm apps, so no. 16:46:13 one cannot write arm palm apps? 16:46:56 You can write arm subroutines. But the system is not built for full arm apps, not as it stands. Doubtless the future Linux-based variants from ACCESS will change that, but under Palm OS, the limitations hold. 16:47:06 so is palm OS being phased out? 16:47:38 No -- Palm owns a perpetual license to Palm OS 5.x and can build on that. What ACCESS will release remains to be seen. 16:47:51 so what are your long-term plans? 16:47:59 stay the course? 16:48:00 To see what happens and adapt accordingly. 16:49:28 To write an app for the Palm, today -- an app you want both backward and forward compatability for -- you write to the 68K API. 16:49:42 It's the widest target. 16:50:05 just as well. i don't ever plan to target 68k with factor, so we won't be in direct competition with each other :) 16:50:08 If you have optimization requirements (and not too many apps do), you can write ARM-specific subroutines to optimize. 17:14:06 --- join: Jenn5 (i=UNXI@74-132-206-111.dhcp.insightbb.com) joined #forth 17:36:20 --- nick: nanstm -> Raystm2 17:37:12 TDTUD fin. 17:37:37 the day the universe doodled? 17:38:06 Ya, why did I think died as the last word. Is that Freudian? 17:38:16 Changed. 17:39:52 First one that answers "No, that's idiocy, gets to here about you know what for 20 minutes straight. :) hehe 17:40:05 forgot the endquote there. 17:40:17 hear even. whoa. 17:40:23 guys, stop slacking 17:40:29 werty is faster than Chuck Moore, leaping tall buildings in a single bound! 17:40:42 lol. 17:44:06 Hey, hows about wertybot. It takes a new email from a werty post and compiles a new email based on words and phrases used in previous posts. Then, it compares the current post to the calculated "average" one, and gives werty a score based on the comparision. 17:44:35 and appends the score to the wertybot calculated average post. 17:47:14 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 17:48:29 Hi Ray. 17:48:53 Hi Marc. What's been going on? 17:49:20 Not too much here -- yourself? 17:50:40 Busy. we just closed December at work, plus I've got the new catalog, print and web, a corporate home page, heck a server, all to do and I'm in the throws of arranging all that. 17:50:59 Interesting work? 17:51:10 Plus my normal sales load and training two newbs. 17:51:18 I hate it, truth be told. 17:51:27 I'm an industrial salesman. 17:51:37 I sell materials handling devices. 17:52:08 I suppose I'm bored out of my gourd. 17:52:48 Been there, done that was fired and re-hired on three occasions, I should have never gone back. 17:53:07 so change. 17:53:13 Indeed. 18:10:25 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-181-141.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:13:20 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:18:45 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 18:19:07 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 18:27:43 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 18:28:31 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096668571.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 20:09:42 --- quit: segher (Nick collision from services.) 20:09:53 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-132-007.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 20:13:14 i see they're going for pedantry again on usenet. 20:26:00 --- quit: slava () 22:44:47 --- join: JasonWoo1 (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:46:31 hi Jason. 22:49:33 hi 23:00:00 Quartus: ping? 23:00:05 JasonWoo1: how's it going? 23:02:19 gak, where's my nick? 23:02:46 --- quit: JasonWoof (Nick collision from services.) 23:03:12 --- nick: JasonWoo1 -> JasonWoof 23:03:18 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 23:03:24 ahh 23:03:27 feel better? 23:03:28 goin' good 23:03:35 gust had a fun game night 23:04:04 one new guy who was cool, and one regular didn't come 23:04:07 playing? 23:04:11 fun different dynamic 23:04:30 we played Light Speed a couple times, then a game of Settlers of the Stone Age which took forever 23:04:39 (3 hours maybe) 23:04:51 that was fun 23:05:02 then we played light speed a bunch with just 2 or 3 people 23:05:05 that was really fun 23:05:23 been a while since I've been able to get someone hooked on lightspeed 23:05:32 great game 23:05:44 i've not come across it. 23:07:08 http://www.cheapass-games.com/products/hippocket/cag964.html 23:07:45 I gotta go clean up the kitchen 23:08:00 btw the little box of all the hip-pocket games is well worth the price 23:08:14 they range from mindly interesting to very cool 23:08:20 heh, looking. 23:08:23 I love light speed 23:08:29 bbl 23:08:45 ok. 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.01.16