00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.01.13 00:34:21 --- quit: absentia ("Leaving") 01:04:33 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 01:16:54 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 01:34:56 --- quit: madwork (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 02:29:13 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 04:01:00 --- join: Jules_ (i=Jules@cp550544-a.landg1.lb.home.nl) joined #forth 04:43:54 --- quit: Jules_ ("Ik ga weg") 05:29:41 --- join: snowrichard (n=guest@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 05:29:47 hello 05:32:39 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 05:37:42 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 05:37:42 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 05:43:04 --- join: snowrichard (n=guest@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 05:43:07 hi 05:45:19 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 05:45:46 --- quit: ttuttle ("leaving") 06:41:32 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:41:58 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 07:52:23 --- join: zpg (n=user@81-179-176-71.dsl.pipex.com) joined #forth 07:53:08 --- join: Quartus__ (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 07:53:37 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:53:39 --- quit: Quartus__ (Client Quit) 07:54:04 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 07:54:04 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 07:54:21 Hi. 07:55:35 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:55:49 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 07:55:49 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 08:00:35 hey Quartus 08:01:46 hey 08:02:12 connection troubles? 08:02:19 Guess so. 08:42:36 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:00:32 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p54897379.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:17:10 --- join: grfrblshntz (n=smee@66-168-78-251.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) joined #forth 09:23:04 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 09:40:25 --- quit: TreyB ("leaving") 09:54:12 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 09:54:12 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 10:12:05 --- quit: Crest ("Leaving") 10:44:52 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 10:52:03 --- quit: JasonWoof ("reconfiguring network") 10:56:13 --- quit: grfrblshntz (Connection timed out) 11:03:35 New Burke! 11:03:43 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:03:43 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 11:09:40 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:13:23 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:14:24 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 11:14:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 11:16:03 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 11:16:27 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:16:27 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 11:28:23 --- quit: Quartus (Connection timed out) 11:28:39 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:31:53 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@70.102.202.162) joined #forth 11:32:22 --- mode: ChanServ set +o I440r 11:34:16 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 11:34:16 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 11:38:16 --- join: spear_ (n=x@host86-143-103-165.range86-143.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 11:47:40 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 11:54:54 --- join: arke_ (n=chris@pD9E04C2B.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:02:07 --- quit: arke (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 13:20:18 hey 13:21:54 hey 13:53:27 what's up? 14:07:17 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.14.137) joined #forth 14:10:16 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:11:04 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:13:21 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:13:21 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 14:14:51 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 14:15:57 " Nothing can evolve faster than software , its not like making babies ( 9 months ) . " 14:17:50 " And when people switch to the new computers that have no s/w ....they remember those who belabored .... " 14:17:54 belabored? 14:18:22 he likes that word 14:18:31 I have no idea what he thinks it means 14:19:05 it means to argue pedantically, i think 14:20:39 bye all 14:20:40 --- quit: slava () 14:20:44 but how about "Interupt a thread ? Thats dumb , belabor , Luddite ." 14:20:55 oops 14:21:13 --- part: edrx left #forth 14:22:40 I think of "belabor" more as arguing at unnecessary length "belabor the obvious" 14:23:09 or to beat someone, as in "She belabored him about the ears with a fresh haddock." 14:23:45 but whatever 14:35:16 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:43:27 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.2) joined #forth 14:43:27 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 14:47:24 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:50:28 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 14:50:28 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 14:53:20 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:53:22 how in god's name did "software" get abbreviated "s/w"? 14:55:20 hmmm... I guess other things get abbreviated with a slash that don't have one to begin with 14:55:23 like n/a and w/o 14:55:37 without is even one word to begin with, not unlike software 15:02:44 I think it's a corruption of sw/hw 15:16:36 is my connection dropping a lot? or is there network issues on freenet? 15:27:07 --- join: zpg (n=user@81-178-236-44.dsl.pipex.com) joined #forth 15:31:10 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 15:37:21 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 15:52:24 --- join: Quartus__ (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 15:52:31 what the hell? somebody is using my registered nick. 15:54:38 any clue as to what I'm supposed to do about that? how can it even happen? 15:56:55 you're referring to Quartus_? 15:57:00 No. Quartus. 15:57:14 Quartus_ is fine, that's my mobile. Do a whois on quartus. 15:57:26 quartus is n=user@c83-252-78-72.bredband.comhem.se * t.rudin@gmail.com 15:57:29 That ain't me. 15:57:30 just did, yeah. try /msg nickserv recover Quartus 15:57:32 then 15:57:33 That's a registered nick -- what's the deal? 15:57:41 /msg nickserv release Quartus 15:58:07 --- nick: Quartus__ -> Quartus 15:58:28 Curious. 15:58:30 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 15:58:35 Got it. Thanks. 15:58:57 Sure. 15:59:06 Fun with netsplits I guess. 15:59:10 So apart from not being yourself today, how're things? 15:59:21 Bit tired. Otherwise ok. You? 15:59:31 Well thanks. 15:59:44 Nearly time to start doing something productive. 16:00:34 ffoooo 16:02:32 bless you. 16:05:28 what productive thing will you do? 16:05:31 --- quit: JasonWoof (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 16:06:25 Goodness knows. Might opt for the lesser-productive activity of reading. 16:07:14 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:07:14 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 16:35:03 --- quit: JasonWoof ("guess I should stay offline until I can get this stupid router working properly") 16:45:57 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-30-169.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 16:45:57 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 16:48:27 1 hour and 15 minutes on the phone with tech support yields... gold! 16:48:57 now supposedly I can make internet connections that don't time out 16:49:04 well, not right away anyway 16:49:15 --- quit: I440r ("Reality Strikes Again") 16:49:17 this is my voip provider Lingo 16:49:37 they sent me a box with the voip hardware/software in it, which includes a router 16:49:47 which provides one port 16:49:55 you're supposed to plug your computer or router there 16:50:04 so their box is plugged directly into the router 16:50:19 it needs to be this way so that the phones get priority 16:50:32 (otherwise the phones scip when someone downloads/uploads too fast) 16:51:09 (unless (unlike me) you have a router what can give priority to a certain network node) 16:53:15 I was afraid it'd be a pain, but I eventually I decided to hook it up that way so the phones would be more reliable 16:53:31 and suprise-suprise, it has a crappy firewall in it 16:53:36 which: 16:53:48 1) doesn't pass incoming connections through 16:54:05 2) has an unreasonbaly short timeout on idle connections 16:54:18 so, eg IRC was getting disconnected regularly 16:55:17 I google it, and find the username and password to access the router config 16:55:36 it's got a port forwarding feature, but it wouldn't let you put in a range 16:55:56 also firefox asks you for your pasword again every time you click a link/button 16:56:25 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 17:05:02 --- quit: ayrnieu (Connection timed out) 17:19:04 blah bla blah 17:19:13 no more blah blah blah! 17:19:22 anyway, it apparently works now 17:19:46 I feel like I should post my hard-earned knowledge to a forum or something 17:20:11 sell it on turkwad.com or whatever that thing is that ttuttle uses. You may make 37 cents! 17:20:37 I missed that 17:20:43 life goes on 17:47:35 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 17:47:35 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 17:48:19 what up, tathi? 17:48:43 not too much 17:48:59 sound familiar. hey tathi 17:49:17 hey zpg 17:49:36 still working on this cross-compiler 17:49:47 think I have the interpreter part working correctly 17:49:52 isforth on linux/ppc ? 17:50:30 no, running under gforth. 17:50:44 I was trying to stick to standard forth for a while, but it was more trouble than it was worth 17:50:56 cross compiling to? 17:51:26 trouble? supporting CORE? 17:51:41 currently ELF files for Linux PPC 17:51:56 oh i see. 17:52:40 Quartus: I decided I preferred to use gforth's execute-parsing-* words to implement INCLUDE and EVALUATE and such. 17:52:51 rather than rolling my own input-source-handling stuff. 17:52:56 ok. 17:53:04 and thereby losing all of gforth's error reporting etc. 17:53:08 --- join: Raystm2- (n=NanRay@adsl-68-93-112-207.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 17:53:14 hi Ray 18:03:02 Hi Marc. Winter here today. 18:03:34 --- quit: Raystm2 (Nick collision from services.) 18:04:50 --- nick: Raystm2- -> Raystm2 18:05:37 How are things your way? 18:07:16 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-160-009.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:07:39 Not bad thanks, quite mild and uneventful :) 18:08:01 Still haven't done anything today. Perhaps some tea-construction will help things along. 18:08:40 You construct things out of tea? :) 18:09:06 The still point. 18:09:11 * zpg zens out 18:10:00 Wars are won on coffee and chocolate. I image more delicate things are built with tea. 18:10:13 Yeah, we're more effete out here. 18:10:35 "A day's daisy picking was made more efficient with a carefully cultivated brew" 18:11:19 heh 18:11:34 * zpg prances around 18:13:08 Down about these parts it's... "Turpintine and dandylion wine, I'm turning the corner and feeling fine. Shootin' at the birds on the telephone line, pickin' 'em off with this gun of mine. Got a fire in my bellie and fire in my head. I'm goin' higher and higher 'till i'm dead." 18:13:34 :) 18:14:07 source say: Randy Newman 18:14:18 source being sources being google. 18:18:23 Yes, indeed. My dad, a big Johnny Cash fan, would sing this at least once a sitting, always to great effect. 18:18:37 "sitting"? 18:20:26 I suppose I mean when the family all got together for the big Sunday dinner. After, we'd gather and sing till the we hours. 18:20:44 hey, that sounds neat. 18:21:27 I had missed that, being away from home more then 20 years. I've carried a few tunes around like a security blanket. 18:24:05 :) 18:24:51 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:25:10 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 18:35:31 Another starts, "Your so sweet, horseflies keep hanging 'round your face, Kentucky moonshine could never take your place. And your eyes give me goosebumps down my toes. Like the only rooster in the hen house I guess it shows." 18:35:59 moving :) 18:37:02 For an accountant, my dad was quite the popular folk and country-western singer. Everybody knew him, he never strayed from home. Always asked to perform at any occasion he attended. 18:38:12 --- join: absentia (n=scott@ns6.lobodirect.com) joined #forth 18:38:33 hi absentia 18:38:52 hi, absentia 18:41:49 hi! 18:56:42 --- quit: tathi ("'night all") 19:13:19 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 19:16:47 hi ayrnieu. 20:01:26 --- join: edrx (n=Eduardo@201.5.11.171) joined #forth 20:22:31 --- join: snowrichard (n=guest@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 20:22:35 hello 20:22:54 hi 20:23:04 hey zpg 20:23:30 I ordered a camcorder today 20:24:09 with anything particular in mind? 20:24:19 family gatherings 20:24:20 and such 20:24:32 I 've a video capture card already 20:24:51 neat. 20:25:43 $139 vhs - c ? tapes, I think wally world carries them 20:26:06 if not best buy will 20:33:56 "wally world"? 20:40:06 WALMART - the evil empire that is letting china buy our economy 20:41:18 the biggest sellers in the walmarts in china are food items. Here its chinese electronics and stuff 20:42:04 do i detect a smattering of reagan in your comments? 20:42:53 actually I do a lot of shopping there I just saw some videos from people that didn't like them 20:43:31 said they encourage their employees to get food stamps , government benefits 20:44:01 and make people work off the clock 20:44:50 walmart has a terrible reputation internationally. 20:45:01 namely, in terms of workers rights. or their lack. 20:45:03 but I live on a government disability pension so I can't blame them. 20:45:28 from the veterans affairs dept 20:45:41 how is that related to walmart? 20:46:23 about the employees getting food stamps and medicaid 20:46:58 because they don't get paid enough 20:48:32 20:48:54 so what's going on in the forth world lol I don't want to be like poppavic 20:49:40 not much to report from out here. 20:49:53 you were using Gforth some? 20:50:11 yeah, i don't use anything else. 20:50:25 well, on the laptop. i have Quartus Forth on the palm. 20:50:56 I've seen some small form factor ARM linux boxes 20:51:05 on web sites 20:51:44 with flash instead of hard drives 20:52:58 * zpg nods 20:53:01 been writing any code of late? 20:53:32 actually in the middle of an LFS install, I want to make a LIVE CD with my media stuff 20:54:01 "linux from scratch"? 20:54:07 yea 20:54:16 i wasn't aware that still existed. 20:54:37 they just released a x86_64 pre release 20:55:17 good stuff. 20:56:36 there's a cross-compile book to for other architectures 20:57:06 mips, sparc, ppc 20:57:33 none of which I have :) 20:58:28 yeah, i was going to ask. is cross-compilation at all relevant for you? 20:58:53 I did some when I was toying with the linux-vax port 20:59:11 for fun? 20:59:16 but the vax burned in a fire 21:00:18 lost my house 21:01:36 that's just material things though, replaceable 21:04:46 when was this? 21:04:54 I've bought a vax architecture book on Ebay 21:05:04 the fire, 2002 I think 21:05:20 * zpg nods 21:05:20 yeah because I had my car and it was new 21:06:12 --- join: I440r__ (n=foo@ip70-162-111-107.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 21:06:18 hello 21:06:22 hi 21:06:29 --- nick: I440r__ -> I440r 21:08:02 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 21:09:44 night. 21:09:44 --- part: zpg left #forth 21:16:44 --- join: snowrichard (n=guest@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 21:20:45 back -- compiling GCC for the second time 21:21:26 --- join: I440r__ (n=foo@ip70-162-111-107.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 21:31:45 --- part: edrx left #forth 21:38:37 --- quit: I440r (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:49:49 hey 23:12:00 http://groups.google.com/group/net.bugs/msg/7e834f9460a67e25 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.01.13