00:00:00 --- log: started forth/07.01.09 00:03:57 slava - unrelatedly, I can build factor on an OpenBSD/zaurus machine with a little bit of hacking and pretense and not actually using registers, but the bootstrap fails, as there are no images suitable for xscale; what would be involved in building such an image? 00:04:25 is xscale little or big endian? 00:04:34 little 00:04:46 try the x86 image with -no-compile 00:05:27 OK. 00:05:58 its not as outrageous as it sounds. boot images don't have machine code; x86 is little endian. the only cpu-specific code in the boot image is the compiler backend, and -no-compile doesn't call that. 00:06:12 i plan on writing an xscale compiler backend at some point this year 00:13:15 Thanks, that seems to work. 00:14:50 is the zaurus still for sale? 00:14:58 i recall hearing sharp discontinued it 00:16:38 It's still for sale in Japan, and they came out with the SL-3200 not very long ago; I don't know how it fares in the US. 00:40:53 --- join: exsample (n=spf@233-26-207-82.pool.ukrtel.net) joined #forth 01:06:04 i just wrote a program to call darcs and have it emit a changelog, then I parse the resulting xml, and tally the number of patches submitted by each unique author 01:11:58 Quartus: i've never seen a java program do anything with xml in 26 lines. 01:12:19 this program devotes two lines only to processing xml. the rest is computing the tally 01:17:54 --- quit: arke (Connection timed out) 01:26:23 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-9a08db148fad2a69) joined #forth 01:31:20 http://opensvn.csie.org/reddit_erl/reddit.erl admittedly a) matches much more than it needs to so as to break more reliably if the targeted HTML changes, and b) deals with browser-intended HTML rather than some relatively-sane REST or SOAP reply -- but still is quite annoying. 01:31:21 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p54896770.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:31:45 that looks like it does a lot more than what i just wrote. 01:32:35 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 01:33:36 it only extracts posts from the (programming.)reddit.com front page. 01:34:05 --- join: arke (i=chris@x43.vpn.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de) joined #forth 01:34:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 02:10:50 pretty much what all-reddit-links of http://nearfar.org/code/reddit/reddit.ss does, but with fewer xpath calls and with a more cumbersome representation of XML. 02:12:34 hi 02:42:55 don't suppose anyone's running ubuntu here are they? 02:43:25 (have a little forth related experiment pending...) 02:47:22 nope, but if you just ask your question, someone happening to run ubuntu can more easily answer it. 03:16:51 --- join: Raystm2- (n=NanRay@adsl-69-149-38-119.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 03:16:51 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 03:23:15 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-69-149-37-133.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 03:35:44 --- quit: Raystm2- (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:10:17 --- quit: exsample ("Need hot code reload.") 04:19:44 heh - sorry - was sidetracked - it just involves some testing of a package/repo on ubuntu 04:21:06 there's a subset test for windows and os/x, but they're less interesting (since they don't incorporate the forth related stuff - at least, not in an accessible way anyway) 04:24:22 --- join: exsample (n=spf@233-26-207-82.pool.ukrtel.net) joined #forth 04:24:43 --- join: zpg (n=user@81-179-102-65.dsl.pipex.com) joined #forth 04:25:02 hey all 04:26:49 hi Quartus 04:27:05 how goes it? 04:28:53 Same old. Yourself? 04:29:06 Something new every day. :) 04:29:14 * zpg grins 04:29:49 That predicate negation stuff from earlier was intriguing. 04:30:08 oh? 04:31:22 Yeah, I was pondering it in relation to Lisp as I hit the sack. 04:33:17 You'd never recover the memory used by the created function. 04:33:32 So better to create one and re-use it. 04:33:54 --- quit: ayrnieu (Remote closed the connection) 04:34:29 Indeed -- that occurred to me too. 04:34:58 The whole situation's a hell of a lot cleaner if we just define the inverted predicate anyhow. 04:35:14 Or generalise the underlying word, rather than trying to manipulate the predicate itself. 04:36:43 Probably. 04:37:14 How's everything in the puppet-hand dept? 04:37:25 Just extricating now. 04:38:07 --- join: ayrnieu (n=julian@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/ayrnieu) joined #forth 04:38:11 from the mould. FROM THE MOULD. :) 04:38:24 heh heh. 05:14:31 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 05:15:12 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-173df06984330e1a) joined #forth 05:15:42 hey ygrek 05:16:40 hey 05:32:23 --- nick: crest_ -> Crest 05:50:56 Hmm, "FIG UK hosts IRC sessions on the first Saturday of the month. on channel #forth using the IRC server irc.eu.freenode.net. Sessions start at 9:00pm UK time and are open to everyone." -- did this happen? 06:02:28 no. 06:03:03 Didn't think so. I think I was here on Saturday anyhow. 06:03:18 Do FigUK ever get around to doing this, or is it a piece of inaccurate information on the website? 06:03:40 --- join: ecraven (n=nex@eutyche.swe.uni-linz.ac.at) joined #forth 06:03:47 hi ecraven 06:03:54 hey zpg 06:05:14 being recompiled 06:05:19 --- quit: exsample () 06:10:53 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 06:12:28 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-2560e9fec59c7375) joined #forth 06:14:19 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 06:14:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o tathi 06:14:25 hi tathi 06:17:24 hi zpg 06:17:56 --- join: exsample (n=spf@233-26-207-82.pool.ukrtel.net) joined #forth 06:19:12 !q 06:19:12 Don’t try to anticipate ways to factor too early. (c) Brodie [ygrek] 06:19:22 !help 06:19:22 IRC bot in SP-Forth (http://spf.sf.net). Rev. 1.2 (2007/01/09 13:37:54) 06:19:22 Available commands - !q, !aq, !help. (Use '!help !' for more info). 06:19:39 ygrek: how many quotes you collected? 06:19:44 !q 06:19:45 SP-Forth is the best. Visit http://spf.sf.net [ygrek] 06:19:50 heh. 06:20:47 bot collects, not me. so far 6 06:21:00 !help !aq 06:21:02 !aq quote - add quote 06:21:08 !help !q 06:21:21 !q - random quote. !q keyword - quote with keyword. !q number - quote by number. 06:21:48 ygrek: perhaps listing the # of quotes collected -- by the bot :) -- would be useful since you have "!q number" as an option. 06:22:26 ygrek: or perhaps have a bot statistic, !about or something, so !help needn't display the version number, !version or !about can instead. and in doing so, can give the latest stats -- last updated, number of quotes, last quote added, etc. 06:22:26 IRC bot in SP-Forth (http://spf.sf.net). Rev. 1.2 (2007/01/09 13:37:54) 06:22:26 Available commands - !q, !aq, !help. (Use '!help !' for more info). 06:23:04 err -- was that my doing? if so, perhaps you onlny want to parse commmand at the beginning of a line... 06:23:17 *only/commands 06:23:31 !aq "Whenever faced with a problem, some people say `Lets use AWK.' Now, they have two problems." -- D. Tilbrook 06:23:31 ayrnieu: Quote 8 added. Thanks. 06:25:28 !aq ( Backtracking ) : enter >r ; : pro r> r> >L enter Ldrop ; : cont L> >r r@ enter r> L> ; 06:25:29 ayrnieu: Quote 9 added. Thanks. 06:25:31 Maybe. If you are interested - the sources are on SPF cvs. 06:26:02 aw, can't you have svn instead? 06:26:40 hi ayrnieu -- saw your comment on i6 from yesterday; we seem to be in accord :) 06:26:54 i6? 06:26:57 I wish it was svn too 06:26:57 inform 6. 06:27:05 ah. 06:27:43 !q 06:27:43 "Whenever faced with a problem, some people say `Lets use AWK.' Now, they have two problems." -- D. Tilbrook [ayrnieu] 06:28:16 !q 06:28:16 Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe... [ygrek] 06:37:27 --- nick: ygrek -> ygrek_away 06:38:16 * grub_booter is getting a new office built in the garage... 06:38:31 hey grub -- how's that going? 06:38:32 got something resembling walls now :-) 06:38:37 how about heat? 06:38:46 hey zpg - nah, no heat yet 06:39:07 and they have had the garage door open all day too... 06:39:14 * zpg shivers 06:39:31 14 degrees outside, so luckily, unseasonably mild 06:40:04 also been doing lots of testing and packaging - spinning the computers warms things up a bit :-) 06:40:05 i think it's pretty mild here too, but for the gales. 06:40:12 heh. 06:41:32 about to release the rpn video stuff on ubuntu btw - dubbed it jbatch (to keep in line with the other tools which all start with a j) 06:41:58 neat. 06:42:06 those c. 100 parameter function calls sound scary. 06:42:28 ah - heh - nah, no functions with that many args... 06:42:54 just objects with that many exposed/modifiable properties (and it's only one - the ffmpeg wrapper) 06:43:22 it's worthwhile though - can encode almost anything and everything... 06:43:23 that's not quite so bad then. 06:45:05 --- quit: ecraven ("bbl") 06:45:15 if you look at the ffmpeg command line, you'll see just how complex and it can get :-), but for the most part, you just need to specify the file name (with extension), codec types (for container formats) and quality settings (bit rate for audio/video) 06:47:49 I misunderstood yesterday -- i thought you were having to contend with functions with a large number of optional parameters, which would obviously be v. messy to interface with. 06:48:49 yeah - wouldn't want to go there - all the objects expose a property_container object and that's what is modified (before, during and after execution) 06:49:21 not so bad. 06:49:32 so is this an object proper or a just a structure? 06:51:12 object proper i guess - though there's been some debate about it inhouse - i didn't develop the property stuff - just stipulated what i wanted and one of the other guys developed it 06:51:43 i see. and this was in c++ i take it? 06:52:27 yup - the property stuff works at a number of levels - like you can set up a notifier/callback on each property on the container - hence a ui app can grab an object and reflect state in a widget really easily 06:53:34 for scripting/batch stuff, it's just used for assign and retrieve of course 06:54:15 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 06:56:17 ui stuff sits at a different level to the rpn mechanism of course - it just uses rpn to build filter graphs and then plays em out/scrubs/modifies and tweaks params 07:01:30 nice - jbatch weighs in at 8k :-) 07:23:15 :) 07:26:06 --- quit: absentia (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 07:26:17 --- join: absentia (n=scott@ns6.lobodirect.com) joined #forth 07:26:22 absentia. 07:27:30 --- quit: absentia (Client Quit) 07:28:29 I don't know, zpg. Fig UK either goes great guns, or nothing happens at all. 07:30:38 I see. 07:30:50 jenny was here for a couple of days, then nothing. 07:32:31 She seemed fascinated with some absurdity jackoring was putting forth, and then vanished. 07:33:04 Some notion that an object system had to revolve around the number 4. 07:35:23 Bah? 07:35:38 Yeah. 07:48:37 --- join: absentia (n=scott@ns6.lobodirect.com) joined #forth 07:56:42 heh - that sounds like fun :-) 07:56:58 rubbish. We get the odd crackpot. 07:57:24 heh - they're all over really :-) 07:58:36 I'm beginning to think that the default forth-mode.el indentation is slightly ridiculous. 07:58:51 I continue to be mystified as to why other people get so fascinated with obviously ridiculous notions. 08:01:28 Well, they often amuse 08:02:00 it's not amusement that mystifies me, it's what appears to be sincere interest. 08:02:42 I sometimes pretend to be sincerely interested in things I'm not, both to be polite and so they'll entertain me further 08:05:33 ok, so we've got you accounted for :) 08:05:53 me too - but sometimes by discussing a nutty or seemingly distasteful idea, you find something which hadn't occurred to you before (though not necessarily backing up the nutty argument) 08:08:17 like, i love debating the whole evolution/creation thing, and those fundamentalists who insist that emacs is the holy grail and so on :-) 08:09:27 yeah, but you don't ask to subscribe to their newsletter. 08:11:34 grub_booter: Oy. Emacs is the holy OS, not some grail! 08:12:11 for me, the instant somebody says, for instance, an object model should be based around the number 4, I'm done. No need to further probe their numerology-addled disorder. :) 08:12:40 Baughn: interesting - can i subscribe to your newsletter? 08:12:42 ;-) 08:14:59 grub_booter: Sure, send "subscribe" to 36657 on your cellphone 08:18:39 On the upside, my latest associative array code seems to be quite neat. 08:25:01 you associate with arrays? What's next, consorting with variables? 08:26:43 Ah, that all depends on their colourful intransigence. 08:27:09 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-26-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 08:27:09 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 08:38:37 Quartus: I got into thinking that that whole business with "remove-if" yesterday was becoming overly complicated as it didn't properly suit the problem. Opted for AAs instead. 08:57:53 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #forth 08:58:10 hi Ray. 09:00:55 hi zpg :) 09:02:07 zpg, my tiny associative-array implementation doesn't delete items, it just stores nulls in 'em. 09:14:32 Yeah, I don't need the two step remove and cons any more though. 09:14:46 I just replace the value at a given (c-addr u) key if need be. 09:15:08 How does the number 4 factor into all of this??!? 09:15:37 my-aa @ s" the key thing to remember" 4 aa-add my-aa ! 09:15:38 there you go 09:15:43 happy now? 09:15:45 :P 09:15:47 hmm 09:15:51 THINKing 09:16:06 hating your aa- names 09:16:57 thought you might. 09:17:15 aa-key! and aa-val! probably won't go down to well either. 09:17:25 *too 09:34:09 foo 10:07:23 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 10:10:29 aa == aligned address? 10:10:46 associative array 10:11:05 Now I don't like it either. THINK!!! ;) 10:12:01 besides, start with general and move towards specific, abbreviate where possible like ray-ass 10:12:04 doh! 10:15:47 : foo bar baz ; 10:16:25 The word baz was not found, I believe me and the compiler got stuck in the bar. 10:16:42 : bar baz qux ; 10:16:48 and I don't dring! 10:16:53 or drink for that matter. 10:17:07 JasonWoof: got me there, I got nothing. 10:17:47 I really like this list: foo, bar, baz, qux, quux, corge, grault, garply, waldo, fred, plugh, xyzzy, thud 10:17:55 except perhaps quux 10:17:56 Now iirc, qux is followed by quux and then the u's just get rediculous from there. 10:18:11 ooh where did you find that? 10:18:15 Jargon? 10:18:18 dict foo 10:18:32 yeah, jorgon file 10:18:49 foldoc has it too 10:19:03 ya. 10:19:56 I agree the naming's screwy -- "aa-add" implies, if you know what "aa" is, that you're adding one. Even ">aa" would be better. 10:20:19 seems fine to me 10:20:37 I use prefixes like "ed-" to indicate that the word is part of the editor 10:20:57 add-assoc 10:21:00 basically I have 1-3 letter prefixes followed by "-" which indicate which module 10:21:13 Indeed, it's an old "namespace" convention. 10:21:25 ya, zpg. I'm playing. Use what makes sence to you. ;) 10:21:25 JasonWoof, your system lacks any ability to differentiate namespaces, so. 10:21:33 Quartus: yep 10:21:51 I was thinking of having a viewing mode that would leave these prefixes off when they are non-obvious 10:22:09 Quartus: I don't like that much either. For adding data to the aa, somehting like ">assoc" makes more sense to me. 10:22:28 > suggests a shift from one place to another. 10:22:47 A relocation; 10:22:57 This is true. 10:23:02 Which it isn't. 10:23:18 Well, I considered "aa-cons" too. 10:23:19 >r adds something to the r stack 10:23:25 Or "aa-push" 10:23:30 >aa ads something to the associated array 10:23:33 could work 10:23:34 >r relocates a cell to the return stack. 10:23:45 removes it from here, places it there. 10:23:48 but aa is not a speciffic place, but a type of place, so it's a bit odd 10:24:15 >r and r> are to and from, not add and subtract. 10:24:26 nor even add and remove. They relocate. 10:24:28 If I saw >aa I'd assume that aa was a variable or some such 10:24:41 variable aa : >aa aa ! ; 10:24:55 I don't know 10:25:01 Something akin to ">counted" makes sense to me. 10:25:09 what is ">counted"? 10:25:39 do you mean "place" ? 10:25:51 is that what it's usually called? 10:26:04 ( addr1 u - addr2 ) \ convert to a counted string? 10:26:11 addr1 u addr2 -- 10:26:17 you give it the string and say where you want it. 10:26:24 No, not place then. 10:26:39 ( c-addr1 u -- c-addr2 ) 10:26:44 s" hi" >counted count type 10:26:48 for example. 10:26:52 which I guess allocates memory somewhere in some unexplained way? 10:27:11 Well, that depends on how you implement it. 10:27:22 I don't like the name >counted. 10:27:27 Again, suggests relocation, which it doesn't do. 10:27:42 In fact it suggests it's relocating something to 'counted', which makes even less sense. 10:28:00 so you never use '>' to mean "convert to"? 10:28:20 If I have, I hereby throw over the practice. :) 10:28:30 heh. 10:28:34 :) 10:28:37 I can recall a few instances where it was something>something-else 10:29:16 I just thought that was a traditional Forth thing... 10:29:34 but it was one giant name, fully descriptive and the > came somewhere in the middle, I've done that as well. 10:32:05 sq#>index ( convert a chess square number to an array index ) stuff like that. 10:33:06 yeah. 10:33:10 what about stuff like >NUMBER or >BODY ? 10:33:54 Holdovers from the days of 3+len 10:34:31 Hmm. 10:36:23 >BODY ? even used anymore? 10:36:28 Sure. 10:36:36 ok, 10:36:55 To get at the data in a created word. 10:37:04 I see what you're stabbing at, but even so, we ready ">xyz" as "to-xyz", so if the naming is descriptive enough, wouldn't that suffice? 10:37:15 If it's relocating something to xyz, yes. 10:37:22 Quartus I see, thanks. 10:37:54 Quartus: do you have a general rule of thumb for naming conversion words then? 10:38:33 as I say, I've done string>field, that sort of thing. That's a conversion. 10:38:46 Of sorts. 10:39:00 But by itself >london means you're relocating something to london. 10:39:09 * zpg nods 10:39:20 I've got "s>c" kicking around somewhere that does the same as the proposed ">counted" above. 10:39:21 You're right, >NUMBER and >BODY stand out. 10:39:44 place is the canonical 'make a counted string' word, so I'd wrap that; if I were making an allocating one, maybe 'place-mem'. 10:40:19 I guess there needn't be a strong convention if you can find suitable words for specific operations. 10:40:23 words=names 10:40:24 ##c: [13:35] LordOllie: beware the 22LR falicy.. I already know it WORKS, but when, where, what and whom? 10:40:46 zpg, I'm in favour of the use of actual words as names. Radical. 10:40:46 :) 10:41:04 heh. 10:41:21 I use -> for conversion 10:41:34 eg > for moving 10:41:49 dict->cfa ( dict -- cfa ) 10:42:07 >here ( addr -- ) 10:42:22 >here is just , no? 10:42:36 no 10:42:43 @ , ? 10:42:58 it sets the address that HERE returns 10:43:19 Oh, modifying what HERE points to? 10:43:24 >turtle ( x y -- ) 10:43:29 yes 10:43:41 I suppose that's a little ambiguous 10:43:48 :) 10:43:50 but you already have "," so what would be the point in it doing that? 10:44:27 Quite. 10:44:50 --- quit: exsample ("Need hot code reload.") 10:44:58 and for setting an element/property of the given data structure, I like this convention: 10:45:13 : dict-cfa! ( new-cfa dict -- ) 10:45:32 -> doesn't look much like an arrow, in a lot of fonts. 10:45:45 fooey on stupid fonts 10:45:49 ;) 10:45:59 JasonWoof: i use something similar, but it would be : cfa! ( dict cfa -- ) ; 10:46:00 I guess that's an advantage of writing my own editor :) 10:46:14 so my dict structure has the following words: 10:46:16 or however you wish to name it. 10:46:24 associative array (also map, hash, dictionary, finite map, lookup table, and in query-processing an index or index file) <-- wikipedia 10:46:30 dict->cfa dict-cfa! 10:46:48 Ray_work: and? 10:46:50 dict->comment dict-comment! 10:47:45 Add: Bind a new key to a new value 10:47:54 fronds uses the misc-fixed 10x20 font that I use in rxvt 10:48:02 okay zpg don't get your dict>bind i'm working on it :) hehe 10:48:04 I'm just reading -> as a property of a pointer to a C structure. 10:49:11 ! to me is a memory-write; I prefer to abstract it. 10:49:49 how so? 10:51:04 by naming what the actual thing is that is happening. It need not necessarily be implemented via a simple store. 10:51:23 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 10:51:31 ya, zpg what is the array for? 10:52:15 Ray_work: it's actually built on top of a list. 10:53:08 I'm using it to keep track of a set of named structures. 10:53:09 * Ray_work is slow 10:53:18 I'm sorry, I'm not sure what that means, on top? 10:53:26 ok 10:53:35 it works on the list? 10:53:50 or is supplemental to the list ? 10:54:33 Basically, this latest implementation that I knocked out this afternoon is a list of structures. Each structure has a name and value slot. 10:54:52 It could be done very differently. 10:55:00 Or built using hashing instead. 10:55:47 and the abstraction should always be such that you can replace the underlying mechanism. 10:55:49 if this is not production code, and you are just doodleing, noodling, well, I can appreciate trying to get the names right... 10:56:19 No, it's not production code. 10:56:33 Quartus_: of course. 10:57:30 There's never a good time for bad names. 10:58:08 I would turn in code to be evaluated by my peers, no consideration for names, just wondering if my brilliance was still sparkleing, and yet many would get all hung up on the word names. Point being, what ever works to get the thing running, cuz you'll rename it later when you figureout what your brilliance actually does. 10:58:31 I disagree. 10:58:43 Bad naming can be a stumbling block for building up the application. 10:58:55 If you name well, you'll have a much better handle on what it is you're doing. 10:59:16 yes. It's key to the abstraction itself. 11:00:33 I think I'm generally okay at naming; it seems to be finding sound names for data structure words that gets me. 11:03:16 english, is my advice. 11:08:23 I'm just saying, I don't let the name stop me from getting the fuction working properly. I tend to find that the function may modify as it develops. Like writeing a song, I will use an descriptive name to what _I_ think it's supposed to be about, then change it later when I know what it's about. Ya'll have much more codeing experiance then I and prob'ly have a different problem set to worry about. 11:11:21 Although, a good working name... 11:19:03 But then I colorForth so... all set to ignore. :) 11:20:10 Look what "Scrambled Eggs" did for "Yesterday" ( best example I could think of ) 11:56:06 Yeah Ray_work, I don't spend 9 hours trying to name something, but often I have a good idea what I want it to do anyway, which helps. It's when I'm creating something like a data structure that I run into slight problems. It's something to use to achieve a functional goal in the overall application or module, rather than the function itself. 11:59:08 All the while, considering makeing the function generic enough for reuse. 11:59:14 I get it. 12:00:00 Genericism depends on the word you're defining, I'd say. 12:00:20 certainly. 12:00:31 If you factor well, I don't think it ends up a problem, and with each definition you can avoid having to think of what you might want in 2 months time. 12:01:21 very true. I've even had that problem. 12:01:28 For example, when I started with Forth I immediately did some linked list stuff. I rewrote that a few times in the first month, and ended up keeping it as My Forth List Library. In my latest bit of code, I figured I might as well just write a fresh bit of code that was directly applicable to the task without all the niggly bits that got bolted on to the header file to make it more general. 12:01:52 If that makes sense. 12:02:23 It does make sense. 12:03:36 What're the chances? :) 12:04:50 You are articulate, polite, intellegent, and kind. I'd bet chances are very good. How's that for opinion. 12:05:02 ? 12:05:03 oops 12:05:29 Never embarass an Englishman. We do that enough ourselves ;-) 12:05:42 But thanks for the sentiment all the same. 12:06:17 :) 12:26:25 --- quit: zpg ("back later -- cheers for now") 12:45:37 --- part: ygrek_away left #forth 12:52:30 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 12:54:10 --- join: arke (n=chris@pD9E07E49.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 12:54:10 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 13:01:21 --- quit: Zarutian (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:02:31 --- quit: virsys (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:04:07 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 13:14:44 --- quit: virsys (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:30:26 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 13:34:36 --- quit: JasonWoof (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13:34:36 --- quit: Raystm2 (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13:34:36 --- quit: nighty (pratchett.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 13:34:49 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@adsl-69-149-37-133.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 13:35:07 --- join: nighty (n=nighty@66-163-28-100.ip.tor.radiant.net) joined #forth 13:35:29 --- quit: virsys (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 13:39:39 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-26-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:39:40 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 13:40:06 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 13:57:06 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 14:28:44 --- join: crc (n=crc@pool-70-110-132-17.phil.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 14:28:49 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 14:30:37 --- quit: Shain ("ircII+tkirc2") 14:35:42 --- join: zpg (n=user@85-210-22-143.dsl.pipex.com) joined #forth 14:36:00 Hey. 14:36:22 Hey. 14:37:31 Hi. 14:37:45 wb z :) 14:37:46 What news? 14:38:21 * grub_booter thinks he wants an iphone 14:44:23 --- join: zpg` (n=user@81-179-121-120.dsl.pipex.com) joined #forth 14:44:43 --- quit: zpg (Nick collision from services.) 14:44:56 --- nick: zpg` -> zpg 14:45:16 2nd time lucky. 14:51:05 Sorry, zpg. Going for the most likely outcome and betting against you, nothing personal. :) 14:51:24 But Good luck anyway... 14:51:55 Heh, well if the system locks up again, there's always the infamous third . 14:52:45 The charm. 14:53:02 Indeed. 14:53:18 I can't wait to leave here today. 14:54:06 I've wasted the day coming in late from Dr. appt. Then spent the rest of the time on IRC. I think I owe my boss one day's pay, at least. 14:55:25 I should leave early to make up for coming in late. 14:56:16 Not that i didn't earn my pay today. Sold a bunch of stuff while we talked. 14:56:51 You can tell when I'm selling, the conversation here goes back to normal for a bit. 14:58:15 :) 15:13:19 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:13:48 home homies 15:13:55 BYE 15:13:58 EXIT 15:14:02 LEAVE 15:14:08 EGRESS 15:14:13 PART 15:14:19 QUIT 15:14:26 --- quit: Ray_work (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:29:29 --- nick: Baughn -> ___ 15:31:56 --- quit: ___ (Client Quit) 15:31:58 --- join: ___ (n=svein@195134062077.customer.alfanett.no) joined #forth 15:32:09 --- nick: ___ -> Baughn 15:32:25 --- quit: Baughn (Client Quit) 15:32:37 --- join: Baughn (n=svein@195134062077.customer.alfanett.no) joined #forth 15:38:38 --- nick: Baughn -> { 15:39:48 --- nick: { -> Baughn 16:33:20 --- join: Shain (i=steve@adsl-75-31-194-220.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 16:49:16 --- join: Zarutian (n=Zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 16:50:27 --- quit: virsys (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 17:06:39 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-54-194-74.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 18:07:45 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-166-015.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:12:38 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 18:13:12 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 18:16:58 --- quit: timlarson ("Leaving") 18:28:35 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l325b.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 18:46:46 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 19:11:12 --- join: X-Scale (n=e-email@89-180-48-227.net.novis.pt) joined #forth 21:56:34 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 23:03:47 --- quit: grub_booter ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 23:06:54 --- join: grub_booter (n=charlie@d54C37EE9.access.telenet.be) joined #forth 23:26:55 --- join: I440r__ (n=foo@ip70-162-111-107.ph.ph.cox.net) joined #forth 23:57:49 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/07.01.09