00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.11.25 01:14:06 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 02:09:33 --- nick: crest_ -> Crest 02:53:49 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 04:47:06 good morning all 04:47:08 --- join: marble (n=glass@cpc1-bolt6-0-0-cust18.manc.cable.ntl.com) joined #forth 05:51:56 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 05:55:33 hi vatic 05:55:48 erider: hey! 05:57:04 what going on today? Anything new? 06:03:40 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 06:04:27 hi 06:08:30 hi snowrichard 06:09:59 good morning. 06:11:15 good morning 06:11:23 how are things? 06:22:20 --- quit: Shine (Nick collision from services.) 06:22:24 --- join: Shine_ (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-84-44-131-175.netcologne.de) joined #forth 06:22:37 --- nick: Shine_ -> Shine 06:24:23 just put on the coffee 06:27:49 * erider feels very young 06:42:12 --- nick: marble -> transparent 06:50:14 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 07:28:59 --- quit: vatic ("*poof*") 08:29:47 --- quit: madgarden ("?OUT OF DATA ERROR") 08:32:48 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096751791.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 08:33:00 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:33:43 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1096751791.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 09:00:02 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 09:04:14 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 09:04:37 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p54897BB9.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:14:43 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 09:55:14 --- join: iano (n=iosgood@sub26-46.member.dsl-only.net) joined #forth 09:57:07 --- quit: iano (Client Quit) 09:57:16 --- join: iano (n=iosgood@sub26-46.member.dsl-only.net) joined #forth 10:40:48 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 10:56:35 --- join: Snoopy42_ (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-133-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:04:10 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 11:04:13 --- nick: Snoopy42_ -> Snoopy42 12:02:58 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 12:20:58 --- quit: iano (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 12:25:28 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 14:41:32 --- quit: Shine ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]") 15:11:07 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:35:45 --- join: erider_ (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 15:44:27 --- quit: erider (Connection timed out) 15:44:36 --- nick: erider_ -> erider 16:29:46 slow day 16:31:02 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 16:39:03 is it possible to access the local stack in gforth directy? 16:40:08 i want to use it to store structs on it 16:40:39 Crest: are you talking about the return stack 16:40:56 no gforth has an extra locals stack 16:41:29 that is not (directly) affected by the control flow 16:41:35 hmm I don't know 16:42:10 of course it's possible to push data on the return stack 16:43:41 I don't see why not if you are going to push the addr to the data kinda like a pointer 16:44:37 i want to use it in a recrusiv word 16:46:10 I'm not sure if you can use it in a recursive word you should ask Quartus 16:46:48 it's possible to use the returnstack even in this case but it's not esay 16:47:33 but e.g. in a loop you cant't use portable code 16:48:47 Crest: I'm very very new to forth and I would love to help you with this problem but I think Quartus is the one qualified to answer these sort of questions 16:48:58 yes 16:49:05 Hello. 16:49:29 hi Quartus 16:49:41 hi Quartus 16:49:46 I have no idea if Gforth provides primitives for locals stack access. I wouldn't expect it to. 16:51:36 their are lp0 lp@ lp! so it's techincal possible as i just found out 16:52:17 but it's nowhere accuratly documented how gforth uses the local ptr except the sourcecode 16:53:07 I would suggest that it is an extremely bad idea to code the way you're suggesting. 16:54:27 why? 16:55:03 what would you suggest using here as base for a data structure stack? 16:55:08 It's not in keeping with usual Forth practice -- neither locals, nor by extension the keeping of data structures on the locals stack. 16:55:18 I would set up an actual stack, and use that. 17:02:31 If the problem even demands stacks as a solution, of course. I don't know what you're working on. 18:18:41 --- join: crc (n=crc@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #forth 18:18:41 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 18:54:23 Why not just keep structs in memory? 18:54:53 Mmmm. The unix/sockets.fs file is very very bare. If I have time today/tomorrow, I might try and add some more stuff in. 18:55:18 I'm attempting to struggle at Java right now, heh. 19:43:49 --- quit: transparent (".") 20:13:51 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 20:31:22 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 20:32:44 hello 20:35:24 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 21:36:10 --- join: arke_ (n=Chris@pD9E06C51.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 21:54:11 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:11:15 --- quit: cmeme (Excess Flood) 22:13:12 --- quit: erider (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:13:13 --- quit: Razor-X (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:13:13 --- quit: TreyB (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:13:13 --- quit: timlarson (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:13:14 --- quit: Zarutian (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:13:16 --- quit: larsb (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 22:13:23 --- join: Razor-X (n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 22:13:31 --- join: larsb (i=lars@82.182.114.230) joined #forth 22:13:37 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 22:13:44 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 22:14:04 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@69.81.136.171) joined #forth 22:49:07 --- log: started forth/06.11.25 22:49:07 --- join: clog (n=nef@66.114.33.57) joined #forth 22:49:07 --- names: list (clog cmeme nighty @arke Snoopy42 larsb Crest timlarson @Quartus virsys erider warpzero) 22:49:25 --- topic: set to 'Welcome to #forth. We discuss the Forth programming language and a variety of technical subjects. Introduction: http://tinyurl.com/kvawv | Starting Forth: http://tinyurl.com/rm7pq | Thinking Forth: http://tinyurl.com/nsy4j | Gforth compiler: http://tinyurl.com/s8uho | ANS/ISO Forth Standard doc: http://tinyurl.com/nx7dx | http://quartus.net/search | Paste: http://forth.pastebin.ca' by Quartus 22:50:00 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 22:52:33 --- join: ccfg (n=ccfg@dsl-roigw1-fe8ade00-21.dhcp.inet.fi) joined #forth 22:52:58 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-26-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:52:58 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 22:53:18 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 23:09:57 --- join: crc (n=crc@pdpc/supporter/active/crc) joined #forth 23:09:57 --- mode: ChanServ set +o crc 23:49:38 --- join: Razor-X (n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/06.11.25