00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.11.18 01:02:41 --- quit: arke_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:03:01 --- join: arke (n=Chris@pD9E05A4E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:03:01 --- mode: ChanServ set +o arke 01:03:20 --- quit: TreyB (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:20 --- quit: Razor-X (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:20 --- quit: nighty__ (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:20 --- quit: timlarson (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:21 --- quit: lukeparrish (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:21 --- quit: erider (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:21 --- quit: Raystm2 (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:03:34 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@ppp-70-248-35-30.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 01:03:34 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 01:03:34 --- join: lukeparrish (n=docl@74-36-211-202.dr01.hmdl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #forth 01:03:34 --- join: Razor-X (n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 01:03:34 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l325b.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 01:03:34 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@66-163-28-100.ip.tor.radiant.net) joined #forth 01:03:34 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 01:12:28 --- join: arke_ (n=Chris@pD9E05A4E.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 01:14:22 --- quit: TreyB (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:22 --- quit: Razor-X (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:22 --- quit: nighty__ (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:22 --- quit: timlarson (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:22 --- quit: lukeparrish (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:22 --- quit: erider (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:22 --- quit: Raystm2 (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:25 --- quit: arke (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:25 --- quit: Quartus (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 01:14:48 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 01:14:48 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@66-163-28-100.ip.tor.radiant.net) joined #forth 01:14:48 --- join: timlarson (n=timlarso@user-12l325b.cable.mindspring.com) joined #forth 01:14:48 --- join: Razor-X (n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 01:14:48 --- join: lukeparrish (n=docl@74-36-211-202.dr01.hmdl.id.frontiernet.net) joined #forth 01:14:48 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 01:14:48 --- join: Raystm2 (n=NanRay@ppp-70-248-35-30.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 01:32:24 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 01:32:46 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 03:06:17 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 03:26:28 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p548967A8.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 03:28:08 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 04:19:46 good morning all 04:43:14 --- quit: erider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 04:43:32 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 04:44:54 good morning all 05:22:56 --- quit: segher (Nick collision from services.) 05:23:08 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-148-251.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 05:36:42 --- nick: crest_ -> Crest 07:02:13 --- join: Joely (n=eliveuse@68.249.183.228) joined #forth 07:03:43 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 07:10:45 hey, any suggestions on what to call variables? i'm trying to learn forth, and the example routine i'm looking at uses `variable a' b, c, and so on for testing endianness and string length (it's an md5 digest function) when i load the file those variables of a, b, c, etc are always there, so i suppose i can't really just use the same variables over and over when switching to different digest algorithms (i want to use the same basic structure of the program, 07:12:31 why not? 07:12:55 oh, they wont conflict or anything? 07:14:07 they could. depends how you do it 07:14:49 they wouldn't this way: variable a : foo a @ 1 + dup . a ! ; variable a : bar a @ 1 + dup . a ! ; 07:15:59 --- quit: vatic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:16:01 foo will continue to use the first "variable a" 07:16:23 but after the 2nd "variable a" code will start to use that one 07:16:33 if you type "a" you'll get the second 07:16:43 ah, ok. thanks! 07:17:05 that's one of the cool things about forth 07:17:24 you don't have to worry about overwriting names, unless you actually want to use the word you're overwriting 07:18:04 (overwriting is a bad word here, you're really just defining a new word with the same name, that gets found first) 07:18:44 If you take your new word out of the search order, the old one will me accessible as before 07:20:29 so it's not variables that are lazy vs prude throughout a `scope'? it's more a linear search for words? 07:20:51 i guess i get it! kinda like setting up PATHs for finding executables in unix 07:21:04 I don't follow 07:21:08 oh... 07:21:25 but masically, yes, newer words are found before older words 07:21:43 althought you can do something fairly analagus to changing your PATH variable around 07:21:52 so that other versions are found first 07:21:59 this is the vocabulary stuff 07:22:36 and all this goes for any type of word you define (not just variables): words, variables, constants, definitions... 07:24:39 I'd also like to note that two functions can use the same temporrary variables if: 1) they initialize the variables every run 2) they don't call eachother 07:25:34 eg: variable a : foo a ! dup * a @ + ; : far a ! dup dup * * a @ + ; 07:28:52 breakfast time. bbl 07:28:52 --- quit: madgarden (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 07:29:06 ok, cool 07:52:15 back 07:55:40 cool 08:08:06 --- quit: cmeme (Excess Flood) 08:09:56 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 08:14:03 --- join: madgarden (n=madgarde@bas2-kitchener06-1177883201.dsl.bell.ca) joined #forth 09:03:56 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-eb51e555714d365a) joined #forth 09:06:05 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 09:06:06 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 09:11:45 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 09:15:47 --- join: Shine (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-213-196-228-156.netcologne.de) joined #forth 09:19:10 --- quit: virl (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:20:59 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:23:42 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 09:26:43 Hey. 09:27:41 oh will have to reboot as win update says it has to be so :-( 09:28:36 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 09:29:52 --- join: virl (n=virl@62.178.85.149) joined #forth 09:35:09 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 09:36:49 --- quit: virl (orwell.freenode.net irc.freenode.net) 09:37:01 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 10:10:51 --- join: nighty (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 10:12:59 --- quit: ygrek () 10:31:47 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 10:49:42 --- join: Snoopy42_ (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-143-003.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 10:55:44 --- quit: nighty (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10:57:02 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10:57:18 --- nick: Snoopy42_ -> Snoopy42 10:58:38 hey again. What's everybody up to? 11:04:15 * erider is reading the code for toka 11:06:05 me is on comp.arch 11:06:23 watching lions on tv too 11:08:58 I'm trying to rewrite my vmForth ( http://tinyurl.com/y6qnyf ) to a version which uses the words described in the cross compiler draft ( ftp://ftp.forth.com/pub/ANS%20Forth/ ) 11:15:33 shine, that looks like a good approach, to me. Well-thought-out document of a method that's been tested in practice. 11:40:43 Quartus_: did you sent the message? 11:44:09 cheery, yes. Not received? 11:44:49 --- nick: Crest -> |nobody| 11:44:54 nop 11:44:58 --- nick: |nobody| -> Crest 11:45:02 hmm. 11:49:58 I don't know what's gotten into it, I check google's trash 11:50:46 nop, not there. 11:51:31 I wish there would be more straightforward way to get rid of spam than use filters... 12:24:32 --- quit: cmeme (Connection reset by peer) 12:25:41 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 12:25:42 --- quit: cmeme (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 12:26:43 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 12:28:59 --- quit: erider (Operation timed out) 12:29:56 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 12:50:38 --- quit: Shine (Nick collision from services.) 12:50:42 --- join: Shine_ (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-81-173-250-105.netcologne.de) joined #forth 12:50:55 --- nick: Shine_ -> Shine 14:07:39 boring day today 14:07:53 no its quite interesting 14:08:13 how so? 14:29:44 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 14:30:05 --- quit: slava () 15:00:27 --- quit: neceve (Connection timed out) 15:01:41 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 15:06:37 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 15:16:26 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 15:33:52 --- quit: cmeme ("Client terminated by server") 15:35:43 --- join: cmeme (n=cmeme@boa.b9.com) joined #forth 15:36:02 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 15:55:57 --- quit: neceve (Remote closed the connection) 17:12:19 --- join: bl4ckth0rn (i=lus2la@20151054110.user.veloxzone.com.br) joined #forth 17:42:21 Hey. 17:48:10 --- part: Joely left #forth 17:48:13 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 17:48:54 hey Quartus are you versed in apache2 and perl cgi thingys 17:49:02 To some extent. 17:51:06 I'm having a little issue. I made a simple cgi program to continue testing my webserver and when I go to load the cgi it just prints the text of the file and not the cgi 17:53:15 So your apache server doesn't understand that the file extension you're using is for cgi. 17:53:48 Possibly also it isn't set executable. 17:53:51 I'm using .cgi 17:54:17 I have chmod a+x 17:54:31 I have no idea if .cgi is right for your apache setup. 17:55:00 I'm going to try .pl 17:56:00 now a box opens for me to download the file 17:56:30 Some setups only allow cgi executables in certain subdirectories. 18:00:59 --- join: nighty (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 18:10:21 Quartus have setup the thing to accept .cgi files outside of the cgi-bin and I'm still not getting it to work 18:11:12 Your own machine, or some 3rd-party hosting service? 18:12:08 --- join: Anbidian (i=anbidian@S0106000fb09cff56.ed.shawcable.net) joined #forth 18:12:58 --- quit: Anbidian (Client Quit) 18:19:01 my machine 18:19:13 Do you have any CGI that does work? 18:19:24 no 18:20:14 You'll have to review the configuration, in that case. I can't tell what the problem might be from here. 18:21:32 are you talking about apache2.conf 18:22:45 And the .htaccess for the account in question, etc. 18:25:59 I don't have the file .htaccess 18:27:25 That's a per-directory Apache configuration file. You might want to read some of the Apache docs. 18:32:41 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 18:37:34 --- quit: nighty_ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 18:41:12 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 18:43:54 --- quit: nighty (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 18:57:10 Quartus now I'm getting Forbidden and permission error message 18:58:28 its works on my web hosted site 18:59:13 Perhaps the account that apache runs under does not have permission to read or execute the cgi file. 18:59:57 error 403 21:09:27 --- quit: vatic ("*poof*") 21:26:35 --- quit: bl4ckth0rn () 21:30:23 --- join: arke_ (n=Chris@pD9E07B85.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 21:47:57 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:54:48 --- quit: nighty_ (Remote closed the connection) 23:04:46 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/06.11.18