00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.11.11 00:42:15 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 01:00:48 --- quit: fission (".") 01:13:45 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 01:27:21 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 01:28:01 --- part: forther left #forth 02:17:25 Hmmm. What is the serials library? 02:19:58 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-54-146.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 02:22:29 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:23:17 --- quit: forther ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 02:35:15 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 02:42:57 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 04:17:56 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 05:11:40 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 05:12:35 good morning 05:25:36 --- join: baraca (i=banno@149.Red-81-40-192.staticIP.rima-tde.net) joined #forth 05:40:27 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-514d7663.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 05:45:23 --- quit: virl (Remote closed the connection) 05:47:50 --- quit: vatic (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 05:57:34 --- part: baraca left #forth 06:18:29 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 06:18:29 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 07:02:08 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 07:06:25 good morning 07:17:13 in which timezone? 07:33:29 probably six of them 07:33:58 or 12, depending when morning starts for you 07:34:22 ^^ 07:34:45 --- join: fgarau (n=fgarau@host86-140-64-7.range86-140.btcentralplus.com) joined #forth 07:35:11 eastern timezone cr 07:35:14 Crest: 07:45:48 --- join: nighty (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 07:54:58 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:31:36 --- quit: fgarau (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 08:38:28 --- join: ygrek (i=user@gateway/tor/x-519c347e733676be) joined #forth 09:18:00 * erider is going to take a nap 09:28:23 --- quit: segher (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 09:35:23 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-138-094.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 09:40:48 Does QF have any built-in words for manipulating the serial connection, or do you have to write them in assembler? 09:41:05 Razor, there's a serial library. 09:41:11 One of the memos. 09:41:26 I see an entry in the manual, but with no documentation. I'll give the memo a look-over. 09:41:52 Have a look at it, it's pretty straightforward. Check the Palm OS serial documentation. 09:42:10 Mmmkay. 09:42:28 It's mostly an open/set-parameters/close sort of dealie. 09:42:59 Mmm. My page-down button is dying :( 09:43:01 --- join: crest_ (n=crest@p54894876.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 09:53:28 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:17:41 --- nick: crest_ -> Crest 10:37:20 --- quit: ygrek (Remote closed the connection) 10:39:34 --- join: snoopy_1611 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-108-043.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 10:47:28 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 10:47:28 --- nick: snoopy_1611 -> Snoopy42 10:50:53 --- join: Shine (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-81-173-251-62.netcologne.de) joined #forth 10:56:26 --- join: azekeprofit (i=azekePro@82.200.250.121) joined #forth 11:29:54 --- quit: segher (Nick collision from services.) 11:30:02 --- join: segher_ (n=segher@dslb-084-056-141-241.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:42:48 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 11:54:31 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 12:34:18 --- part: azekeprofit left #forth 13:01:47 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 13:01:47 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 13:05:42 --- join: forthe1 (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 13:05:50 --- part: forthe1 left #forth 14:06:26 --- quit: slava () 14:50:31 --- quit: Shine (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 15:22:15 --- quit: neceve (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)) 15:23:37 --- join: Shine (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-84-44-129-15.netcologne.de) joined #forth 15:32:03 --- quit: erider (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:32:29 --- join: erider (n=erider@unaffiliated/erider) joined #forth 15:56:26 --- quit: forther ("Leaving") 16:23:23 slow day 16:34:02 hi 16:36:17 hi zpg 16:36:27 hey 16:36:34 hi Quartus 16:37:09 it looked like it was going to be a slow day 16:38:25 hey guys 16:59:53 best head to bed; night all. 16:59:54 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 17:03:33 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 17:41:25 --- quit: Shine ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.8/2006102516]") 18:18:25 --- quit: vatic (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 18:31:24 --- part: forther left #forth 18:39:19 Does gForth have an FFI? 18:55:26 hi Razor-X and Raystm2 18:59:09 yes, it does 19:40:39 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 19:57:38 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 20:19:22 hello 20:19:36 Hey. 20:21:19 how are you? 20:21:28 Good thanks. You? 20:21:51 I'm out of one of my meds, but they should arrive in a day or two 20:22:09 That's good. 20:25:31 ever googled "ultimate risc machine"? there are several references to "one-instruction" computers. 20:25:57 I haven't googled that, but I have seen several one-instruction machine descriptions. Novel. 20:26:04 To pipe in: I have, and I've done a lot more research into it. 20:26:17 one had just a move, with a memory-mapped alu 20:26:36 My own personal favorite variation on the instruction is: "source dest pos-jump neg-jump". 20:27:02 I played with a decrement-and-branch-if-zero implementation once. 20:27:12 I/O via side-effects. 20:27:14 Yeah, that's my favorite kind, with the above instruction. 20:27:29 The problem is the instruction width becomes huge. 20:27:48 Yeah, it's a toy idea, but amusing. 20:27:55 Heh. Yeah. 20:28:14 But I guess if you wanted a cheap system without much addressable memory, it would be pretty nice. 20:28:31 I doubt it's in any way practical. 20:28:52 True. 20:28:57 But it is a fun thought ;) 20:29:17 It entertained me for an hour or so about 20 years back. :) 20:29:28 Hehehehe. 20:30:37 I played with an INTERCAL implementation for about as long. You could actually use the language for meaningful things, if you were prepared to write all the required functionality. I had it outputting numbers in decimal instead of Roman after about an hour, and then I dropped it and moved on. :) 20:31:05 I do some Esoteric programming for fun. 20:31:18 Don't know it. 20:31:21 And I implement BF interpreters as an opening project for all languages I learn (Forth included :) 20:31:33 Esoteric includes INTERCAL, BF, and a bunch of toy stuff. 20:31:34 MCMLXXVII 20:31:44 The wide term is Esoteric Languages. 20:31:45 my birth year :) 20:31:57 77, snow? I thought you were older. 20:32:06 got it wring 20:32:08 wrong 20:32:09 Hehe. 20:32:17 mcmlvii 20:32:19 Quartus wrote Duco, so he should know :) 20:32:22 57. 20:32:33 Yeah, Roman numbers and I are well acquainted. :) 20:38:43 I think I did a conversion routine on my HP41C once 20:39:26 I remember puzzling out an APL version was fun, some years back. 20:39:53 APL, heh. 20:39:54 Both to and from Roman. 20:40:16 I've never tried APL. How is it? 20:40:35 I was working for a financial instutition, lots of APL in it at one point. J is in fairly common use these days. 20:41:01 APL is array-based, quite powerful in its domain, but intensely hard to read with a special character set. J improves this, no special characters. 20:41:13 I have j installed, haven't learned much about it yet 20:42:07 J is common? 20:42:09 Hmmm. 20:42:42 in financial analysis, you find J where formerly you found APL. 20:43:45 and they no longer have to wait on a 10CPS 2741 Selectric :) 20:43:59 I guess it is pretty powerful when you have to manage large databases of information. 20:44:25 More for matrix manipulation. 20:44:45 Nothing you can't do in other languages, but in its day that was why you chose it. 20:45:17 Ah. 20:47:29 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 20:50:18 --- quit: erider ("I don't sleep because sleep is the cousin of death!") 21:24:28 --- join: arke_ (n=Chris@pD9E06A59.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 21:42:01 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:51:17 --- quit: nighty (Remote closed the connection) 22:55:15 What sort of waveform does the word 'sound' play? 23:14:08 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 23:24:54 --- quit: Razor-X (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:25:39 --- join: Razor-X (n=user@user-11faaoj.dsl.mindspring.com) joined #forth 23:29:57 hi Razor-X 23:36:15 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/06.11.11