00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.11.05 00:19:17 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 00:28:18 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 00:43:41 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 01:13:36 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 01:33:57 --- part: azekeprofit left #forth 02:34:06 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-19-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 02:52:22 --- join: Shine (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-213-196-228-143.netcologne.de) joined #forth 02:56:32 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 03:00:11 --- join: azekeprofit (n=azekePro@82.200.250.167) joined #forth 03:41:01 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-514d7663.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 05:53:04 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 06:15:03 --- part: azekeprofit left #forth 06:23:19 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p54894937.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 06:24:32 --- join: azekeprofit (n=azekePro@82.200.250.167) joined #forth 06:36:47 --- part: azekeprofit left #forth 06:39:44 --- join: azekeprofit (n=azekePro@82.200.250.167) joined #forth 06:39:47 --- part: azekeprofit left #forth 07:55:08 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 08:00:18 --- join: azekeprofit (n=azekePro@82.200.251.93) joined #forth 08:02:29 --- part: zpg left #forth 08:03:39 --- quit: azekeprofit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:51:01 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 09:30:55 --- quit: Crest (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 10:27:16 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@c-71-192-26-248.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) joined #forth 10:27:19 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:33:08 --- join: Snoopy42 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-124-096.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 10:36:04 --- join: snoopy_1611 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-168-002.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 10:37:49 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 10:38:19 --- nick: snoopy_1611 -> Snoopy42 10:42:59 --- quit: segher (Nick collision from services.) 10:43:12 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-057-220-012.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 11:15:43 my first Forth implementation is working: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.forth/browse_thread/thread/93ccf6ef047af476/f2dc91351e55eb22 11:17:19 --- quit: vatic (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 11:21:52 --- join: jackokring (n=jackokri@static-195-248-105-144.adsl.hotchilli.net) joined #forth 11:25:43 --- quit: segher (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)) 11:27:21 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-132-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 12:11:13 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-178-20.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 12:24:50 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-514d7663.l2.c2.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 12:55:34 --- join: Mitja (n=Mitja@unaffiliated/mitja) joined #forth 12:57:35 --- part: Mitja left #forth 13:02:16 --- quit: vatic ("*poof*") 13:21:42 How's the VM done? Pseudo-assembly parser in Forth? 13:26:29 --- join: Mitja (n=Mitja@unaffiliated/mitja) joined #forth 13:27:05 the word "assemble-start" parses anything until ".end", see kernel.f for the format I've used. I'm not sure any more, if this is a good idea. Quartus suggested to define the mnemonics as Forth words, which then creates the bytes while executing 13:34:45 --- join: nighty__ (n=nighty@sushi.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 13:45:37 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p54895E7D.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 13:46:11 hi 13:46:17 hey 13:46:33 --- quit: nighty_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 13:46:42 cdp1802 asm isn't well suited for 32bit operations :/ 13:47:15 bc atm i'm trying to implement salsa20/32 in it 13:47:50 No idea what that is. 13:48:09 the cdp1802 is a very old 8bit cpu 13:48:22 with a wierd isa 13:48:38 I mean 'salsa20/32'. 13:48:42 and salsa20 is a streamcipher 13:48:53 High points for the goofiest possible name. 13:49:21 the 32 is the number of bits per word 13:49:31 (cell in forth terms) 13:50:35 it uses just +,xor, and rotations by constanst amounts 13:50:41 not more 13:51:19 "also known as Snuffle 2005". Jebus. 13:51:38 yes 13:51:57 I'm going to wait until he implements Cuddly-Bear 2007. 13:52:09 If you're lucky, you'll be able to do real time decryption of a 110 baud data stream. 13:53:13 ( 3 or 6 mhz / 6 ) / ( 2 or 3 ) instrutions per second 13:54:30 one of the realy funny things about salsa20/32 is that it is one of the fastest ciphers in software on a powerpc because it is perfectly suited for altivec 13:55:14 more than two bits per cycle on a g4 13:55:17 Ah, but you only say that because you have yet to see 'Blender-Bunny 3000'! 13:55:56 and after implementing it on the ppc i wanted to try other platforms 13:56:19 You could always soak the CDP1802 in liquid nitrogen, and over clock it. 13:56:22 I had a different reaction after reading about it. 13:56:23 Don't forget the blue LED fans. 13:57:00 why cooling the cdp it can operate at up to 125 degrees celsius 13:57:18 and down to -85 13:57:58 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 13:58:11 Because if you haven't overlocked your CPU with LN, you're nobody! Don't you read all the c001 h4rdw4w3 d00d35s websites? 13:59:42 I can't engage in this frivolous conversation, I have to go and invent Fuzzy-Munchy 2006. Time is wasting. 14:00:37 -55C, not -85. 14:01:27 -.- 14:13:16 evening all. 14:13:39 Hey. 14:41:44 what's up? 14:49:56 not too much, just a tinkerin' 14:50:27 got a question for you -- how is it that s" ..." works both inside and outside colon definitions? (i.e., it knows to parse inside the definition if used within it, otherwise look at the input buffer?) 14:51:57 it checks STATE. 14:53:35 State indicates whether you're compiling or interpreting. 14:54:16 oh, neat. i'll check ANS 14:55:06 ah ok, that makes sense. i'll tinker with it in a bit. 14:55:15 it's a reflective kernel variable that is set and cleared by ] and [. 15:01:39 neat 15:03:35 just going to reboot. 15:03:36 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 15:08:07 --- quit: jackokring (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 15:17:13 --- quit: Shine (Nick collision from services.) 15:17:18 --- join: Shine_ (n=Frank_Bu@xdsl-84-44-130-22.netcologne.de) joined #forth 15:17:25 --- nick: Shine_ -> Shine 17:42:10 --- log: started forth/06.11.05 17:42:10 --- join: clog (n=nef@bespin.org) joined #forth 17:42:10 --- topic: 'Welcome to #forth. We discuss the Forth programming language and a variety of technical subjects. Introduction: http://tinyurl.com/kvawv | Starting Forth: http://tinyurl.com/rm7pq | Thinking Forth: http://tinyurl.com/nsy4j | Gforth compiler: http://tinyurl.com/s8uho | ANS/ISO Forth Standard doc: http://tinyurl.com/nx7dx | http://quartus.net/search | Paste: http://forth.pastebin.ca' 17:42:10 --- topic: set by Quartus on [Tue Oct 24 17:49:49 2006] 17:42:10 --- names: list (clog Crest segher Snoopy42 @JasonWoof neceve Razor-X arke @Quartus_ lukeparrish TreyB madgarden Raystm2 Zarutian @Quartus I440r saon cmeme ohub timlarson warpzero virsys ccfg nighty larsb k4jcw @crc) 19:19:37 --- join: Zarutian_ (n=Zarutian@194-144-84-110.du.xdsl.is) joined #forth 19:20:11 --- quit: Zarutian (Nick collision from services.) 19:20:31 --- nick: Zarutian_ -> zarutian 19:20:51 --- nick: zarutian -> Zarutian 21:20:27 --- join: arke_ (n=Chris@pD9E06C62.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 21:28:46 --- quit: arke (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 21:46:27 --- join: forther (n=forther@c-67-180-209-27.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) joined #forth 22:01:27 --- join: Raystm2- (n=NanRay@adsl-68-95-251-145.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 22:05:04 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-19-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 22:06:27 --- quit: saon (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:18:33 --- quit: Raystm2 (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 22:29:37 any life out there tonight? 22:30:00 not much 22:31:28 Tracing back influences on Forth, I'm down to Lisp, the Burroughs B5000 machine language, and BCPL. 22:34:58 Any thoughts? 22:35:08 not really 22:35:33 I haven't done much probing into Forths early history 22:36:47 I went through my collection of history books. There were a huge number of languages that came and went in the 50's and 60's. 22:47:28 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/06.11.05