00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.10.05 00:00:09 --- join: arke_ (n=Chris@pD9E05C17.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 00:16:53 --- quit: arke (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 00:29:00 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 00:39:50 --- part: Quiznos left #forth 00:50:26 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 01:27:56 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 01:28:08 hi 01:28:29 story about my new interpreter: http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info 01:29:10 --- join: Amanita_Virosa (n=jenni@ppp-70-243-36-192.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 01:29:19 hello 01:29:47 you live in Houston, Amanita_Virosa? 01:30:44 at the moment, yes. 01:30:55 I'm in Marshall just north of you 01:31:12 --- quit: Quartus (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 01:31:28 cool 01:33:28 there's a LUG in Shreveport and one in Longview. Haven't made it either one's meetings yet. 01:34:47 me neither... i don't think i could be bothered to go to another LUG 01:35:08 i went to one once in fredericton (i'm a canuck :P), and it was all "can you help me install linux?" everywhere i turned 01:35:17 i mean, i like linux. i use linux. i program for linux.. 01:35:22 but that's just too much tech support for me :P 01:35:42 just updated my site with my new program 01:36:00 story about my new interpreter: http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info 01:36:02 oh? 01:37:55 heh neat. 01:38:41 had basically what I wanted to start out working, so putting it on my server is an extra level of backup :) 01:39:05 ah cool 01:39:12 i use an offsite CVS repository via ssh 01:39:21 and i back up the cvsroot locally from time to time 01:39:31 I never got really comfortable using cvs 01:39:45 so the worst case scenario for me is that i either lose a few months of changelogs, or i lose a few days of code 01:39:50 cvs is good stuff 01:40:22 I managed to mess up someone else's checkin on a linux package manager project 01:40:58 I think they recovered it ok, but still 01:41:03 ah. 01:41:05 i work alone. 01:41:50 so if I make major changes and get them tested I just create a new versioned tar 01:42:23 that's a lot of work for rather course granularity. 01:42:52 there's only 1 file of source code it really doesn't take long 01:43:51 its about 47 pages at this point 01:45:49 as far as tech support goes I get lots of local friends and neighbors wanting me to fix there windows machines, and few of them pay much if anything for the help 01:46:21 there is one lady in shreveport that actually pays enough 01:48:08 of course I don't ask Mom to pay, she's done enough for me over the years that I owe her :) 01:52:58 see if I have any coffee left brb 01:53:34 guess not its a soda insttead 02:01:49 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 02:22:38 --- join: Cheery (n=Cheery@a81-197-19-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 02:24:03 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 02:25:53 hi 02:26:56 --- nick: arke_ -> arke 02:27:04 hi arke 02:27:16 hi Snoopy42 02:27:17 err 02:27:19 snowrichard: 02:27:20 hehe 02:27:32 there ya go with the snoopy again is he here? 02:28:23 http://www.schizophrenicprogrammer.info just released my interpreter to freshmeat 02:35:02 I need to get another dr pepper 02:41:14 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 03:46:27 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 03:46:36 hi 04:00:37 --- join: zpg (n=user@user-514c3819.l2.c5.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 04:04:14 afternon all. 04:10:11 hi 04:10:21 hello 04:10:29 early morning here 04:15:03 --- join: zpg` (n=user@user-5440d041.wfd79a.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 04:19:30 hi again zpg 04:19:54 hi snowrichard 04:20:26 i've released a first version of my new interpreter 04:20:38 will be on freshmeat soon 04:20:53 cool, which page? 04:21:01 project name will be pawpaw 04:21:10 you registered it yet? 04:21:12 (that's my dog's name) 04:21:21 heh 04:21:22 its in the editor 04:21:26 editor's queue 04:21:29 ah 04:21:32 screenshots? 04:21:40 no its just console 04:21:51 --- quit: zpg (Nick collision from services.) 04:21:59 --- nick: zpg` -> zpg 04:22:16 ah ok 04:22:22 what have you writting it in? 04:22:28 it in C 04:22:43 compiled for x86_64 gentoo at the moment 04:23:19 oh nice. 04:23:21 you running AMD? 04:23:33 Celeron D 356 04:23:39 EMT_64 04:23:45 k 04:25:15 47 pages of code. I think I've been working on it off and on for a week now 04:26:01 long enought to burn up a black ink cartridge anyway :) 04:26:27 heh 04:27:03 http://www.schizophrenicprogrammer.info (my post-nuke site) 04:29:52 the person that answered the phone at godaddy.com had a laugh about the domain name 04:30:23 i see we have a healthy dollop of geep in the subheading - 'Use the source, Luke' :) 04:31:01 --- quit: Amanita_Virosa ("eep.") 04:31:04 ah, http://schizophrenicprogrammer.info/PawPaw.html 04:32:08 just added the register form at the bottom too 04:32:26 yeah i saw 04:32:53 sends me email from nobody@myserver .... 04:35:56 --- join: virl (n=virl@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 04:36:19 * zpg nods 04:37:16 http://rafb.net/paste/results/i8erbr28.html 04:37:21 some code 04:38:18 hi virl 04:38:21 wait, is that infix maths? 04:38:33 oh, no sorry 04:38:40 postfix (rpn) 04:38:48 yeah, misread the @ 04:39:40 so how does your control stack aid hacking? 04:40:21 well actually its the handling of undefined words. They get an opcode, and can be compiled, but when you try to run the word you can stub it or edit a definition then 04:40:49 oh neat. 04:40:53 a stub would be like : myword "myword" niy ; 04:41:05 where niy prints xxx is not implemented yet 04:41:20 i ought to add at this point i don't really hack forth, so won't get the subtleties of your implementation. 04:41:38 wouldn't 'nyi' be better? 04:41:54 not implemented yet is the message ... 04:42:10 fair enough 04:42:14 sounds a bit odd to me. 04:42:15 just a habit from one of my old projectts I guess 04:42:27 * zpg nods 04:42:32 do you hack forth for a living? 04:42:52 I'm a disabled veteran. The govt pays me to stay alive... :) 04:43:13 so have lots of time 04:43:42 wow ok; how long have you been playing with forth(-likes) then? 04:44:49 first one I wrote was on a Tandy Color computer with os9 04:45:25 that was a nix-like thing that ran off of a 156K single-sided floppy 04:45:45 neat 04:45:57 actually I had 2 drives 04:46:12 but you can put a few gig in your pockets now :) 04:46:15 flash 04:46:30 yeah, crazy 04:46:41 or on your keychain 04:47:18 or backpack ... i managed to bugger mine up recently so ought to buy a new pen drive. will probably exceed my hard disk space. 04:48:02 this pc has slots for cf, sd/mmc/ms/ms-pro/xd memory sticks 04:48:28 don't have any but one of those will also fit my camera 04:48:39 but camera has usb too 04:49:43 * zpg nods 04:49:56 shows up as usb scsi 04:50:46 i quite liked the automount feature on openbsd, mapped my usb pen to /dev/sd0a i think 04:50:58 usb<->scsi hub 04:53:39 well I think I'll reboot to windows and watch my news videos and voice chat a bit 04:53:59 apps I haven't got in linux yet 04:54:26 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 04:57:41 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-156-148.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 04:58:12 hey vatic 04:59:20 zpg: hey! 04:59:48 how's it going? 05:00:08 zpg: OK. Getting ready to go teach... 05:03:35 you tutoring within a university? 05:05:24 zpg: yes, City College of New York. It's a part of NYC university system. 05:07:41 musicology, i take it. 05:07:43 (dept. of) 05:09:53 hi all 05:10:03 zpg: yeah, unlike Europe (I think) there are all sorts of sub-specialties that have their own professional identities: ethnomusicology, musicology, music theory, performance, composition... 05:10:08 hey virl 05:10:14 virl. 05:10:26 yes, i believe those are usually subsets of the Music department itself. 05:10:49 be back in 15 05:10:52 zpg: so anyway, it's the Music department, undergraduate... 05:11:51 ah ok -- will talk shortly. got a meeting in a while and need to prep some stuff beforehand 05:12:14 zpg: that's fine... I got to fo soon, aussi... 05:12:20 fo = go 05:26:47 back 05:33:24 zpg: hope that info I emailed on Myneni's lists.4th will be of use. I haven't had a chance to look at it very hard yet. 05:34:37 yeah thanks for that, i havne't checked it out either yet. 05:34:48 been hacking a bit of lisp and haven't gotten around to Forth this week. 05:35:36 zpg: it looks like he's got a version that runs under gforth, so it shouldn't be too difficult to get going. 05:35:50 neat. 05:35:58 vatic: what other languages do you hack btw? 05:37:21 zpg: well, C mostly. Used to do more in 386 asm, but now PIC assembly. Everything else I'm looking at is about translating it into Forth... 05:37:43 oh neat. so are you treating forth as a flexible assembler? 05:39:46 zpg: not really. I just want to write in Forth instead of other languages... 05:40:37 neat. 05:40:55 i had the insane idea of trying to implement myself a microlisp this morning, perhaps in C. 05:41:07 i foresee it going terribly wrong and buggily. but might be worth the effort. 05:41:39 zpg: I suppose there are a bunch of music synthesis languages that I've worked in: csound, max/msp, etc. The interest in Forth is replacing these languages with something that reflects my idea of synthesis and composition... 05:42:02 yes, i can see tailoring forth to be a highly efficient, precise and clean way of doing audio processing. 05:42:30 to be honest, i'm so out of practise with x86 assembly, say, that all the programming i've done over the past few years is abstracted from thinking about addresses and stacks, even when i'm using C's pointers. 05:42:38 zpg: I would think it would be instructive, but I believe Quartus' caveat that writing an interpreter doesn't make you better at writing the language. 05:42:48 Forth is therefore a different paradigm from my experience in Smalltalk and Lisp, both of which I love. 05:43:02 zpg: I can imagine... 05:43:07 yeah, there seem to be tonnes of Forth terps. 05:43:28 zpg: I have a toy Lisp/Scheme in Pascal if you'd like (didn't write it) 05:43:34 the microlisp terp i mentioned might just be fun, i think. not sure i can actually do it though. 05:43:47 haven't ever read pascal, but maybe. there was a lisp terp in Squeak too. 05:44:05 zpg: I wouldn't be surprised... 05:44:45 i think just going for dynamic binding, no continuations, simple symbols (scheme style - a symbol can be a data type or a function, rather that the common lisp separation) 05:44:56 -- this might be possible with some amount of ease. 05:45:12 once you've got the basics, you write lisp in lisp anyway. 05:45:20 as with forth i'd imagine. 05:45:28 primitives + forth-in-forth 05:46:00 zpg: Actually, I think I have Kamin's little languages in a C++ port: Lisp, Scheme, Prolog, Smalltalk... 05:46:12 hey neat 05:50:56 zpg: Remind me if I haven't emailed them to you in the next couple of days... 05:52:01 okie doke, shall do. 05:55:19 Maybe someone should ask 05:55:21 http://www.google.com/codesearch 05:55:31 to add support for searching Forth code. 05:58:17 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 05:58:34 hi 06:00:32 wb snowrichard 06:00:49 freshmeat updated with my project on it 06:03:07 That someone is now me. 06:04:20 --- quit: vatic ("*poof*") 06:08:31 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 06:11:57 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 06:12:11 back 06:43:44 hi 06:46:16 --- join: segher (n=segher@dslb-084-056-176-245.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 06:54:12 --- join: zpg` (n=user@user-54474d0a.wfd86a.dsl.pol.co.uk) joined #forth 06:58:39 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@unaffiliated/herkamire) joined #forth 06:58:39 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 07:07:15 --- quit: zpg (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 07:14:24 --- join: Quartus (n=trailer@CPE0001023f6e4f-CM013349902843.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 07:14:24 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus 07:29:58 snowrichard, re your paste, why store the temperatures in variables? Why not simply use the stack? 07:49:21 no particular reason 07:49:32 unless I was doing a gui 07:49:37 later 07:58:41 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 07:59:38 ah. Ok. Looked odd; thought perhaps this was some particular limitation of your Forth. 08:08:51 --- quit: virsys (Remote closed the connection) 08:13:52 --- join: virsys (n=virsys@or-71-53-74-48.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) joined #forth 08:26:11 --- quit: Quartus_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 08:40:41 --- join: Quartus_ (n=Quartus_@209.167.5.1) joined #forth 08:40:41 --- mode: ChanServ set +o Quartus_ 08:45:16 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 08:45:29 --- join: Crest (n=crest@p54894206.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 08:51:11 --- nick: zpg` -> zpg 09:08:21 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@199.227.227.26) joined #forth 09:10:18 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09:27:11 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 09:29:33 hi 09:33:53 --- join: Tallen (n=Tallen@pdpc/supporter/active/Tallen) joined #forth 09:34:06 --- quit: Tallen ("Leaving") 09:36:06 --- join: Cymor (n=Cymor@unaffiliated/cymor) joined #forth 09:36:09 Hi 09:37:58 how are you? 09:41:28 I'm doing well. 09:42:17 --- join: neceve (n=claudiu@unaffiliated/neceve) joined #forth 09:42:20 I can't seem to find out what programming language this is in. http://cymor.com/~cymor/Input.txt 09:42:32 Some people suggested that it was in forth. 09:42:38 Others have said Pascal. 09:43:45 it's possible to write this program in forth but noone would do so 09:43:51 cya 09:43:56 --- quit: Crest ("Leaving") 09:44:30 ok 09:46:47 Thanks 09:46:49 --- part: Cymor left #forth 09:54:54 that's not pascal. Looks like somebody's toy language. 09:56:16 some custom thing for sending data to a light panel, at a guess. 09:58:01 Looks like some kind of bastardized Basic to me. 09:58:24 --- quit: zpg ("ERC Version 5.1.3 (IRC client for Emacs)") 10:02:15 --- join: slava (n=slava@CPE0080ad77a020-CM000e5cdfda14.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) joined #forth 10:02:15 --- mode: ChanServ set +o slava 10:02:42 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@67.135.84.40) joined #forth 10:04:13 --- quit: I440r (Client Quit) 10:04:55 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@67.135.84.40) joined #forth 10:06:28 hmmm ok, no more Quartus forth users in here, you guys are taking over :P 10:10:01 I just emailed charls curly 10:10:11 inviting him to come chat here 10:10:27 hmm? What quartus forth users? Who's curly? 10:12:30 charls curly is one of the old time forth gurus 10:12:44 im VERY VERY supprised you are not familiar with his name 10:13:19 and i was just guessing that they are quartus users, after you joined here the channel gained a few users :) 10:13:33 of corse... the above WAS humor lol 10:13:52 curly rings no bell, unless it's curly howard of course :) 10:13:57 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 10:14:26 i believe he is the author of the software floating point forth code used in FPC 10:14:36 tho i might be mixing that up 10:14:52 i know he has alot of example code in fpc :) 10:15:26 grrrr im rapidly coming to the conclusion that BUSH is a moron 10:15:36 a fucking fence ising going to stop ONE fucking person 10:15:47 not unless that fense has 50 million volts flowing through it 10:16:09 you put armed guards every 1/4 mile of the entire border with orders to SHOOT ON SIGHT 10:16:18 shoot/ask that order 10:17:25 --- part: larsb left #forth 10:27:29 its charles curley not curly duh... my bad 10:27:40 and who is curly howard ? 10:33:25 Curly. Larry. Moe. Shemp. 10:33:35 oh 10:33:36 lol 10:46:53 hi 10:47:10 been investigating what it will take to hook up the new dishwasher 10:47:20 snowrichard, lol sorry i didnt respond to your hello in #gentoo yesterday, i logged in and then stepped out :) 10:47:29 to your computer under forth control ? 10:47:33 :) 10:47:49 ? 10:47:56 gentoo mostly 10:48:15 hook up your new dish washer... lol 10:49:02 the dishwasher? ok well it needs hot water line, drain, power 10:49:25 2 of the three are close to where its going 10:49:34 2 out of 3 aint bad 10:50:01 the hot water will have to run under the floor to under the sink 10:50:30 it extends into a storage space below the sink 10:51:55 luckily I'm not doing the work 10:52:36 a side benefit of having my mom manage my funds is I have enough in reserve to pay for this kind of stuff to be done. 10:52:51 :) 10:53:16 grrr how do i unblock an app in winblow$ firewall ? 10:53:34 reboot into linux/ 10:53:35 ? 10:53:43 this is a work machine 10:54:00 really it should be in control panel maybe? 10:55:31 control panel -> firewall settings -> advanced 11:12:05 --- join: ramserver (n=gschuett@4.38.41.141) joined #forth 11:12:22 wow 11:12:24 some people here 11:14:38 hi 11:19:06 --- quit: I440r ("Leaving") 11:33:55 no curly, I guess 11:42:44 --- join: I440r (n=mark4@67.135.84.40) joined #forth 11:42:47 heya 11:42:50 so whats up 11:42:57 can forth be sued to kick phps ass? 11:43:00 if so how? 11:43:19 can you do memory maped files in forth? 11:44:25 you can use forth for server-side cgi. Gforth does memory-mapped files, as far as I know. 11:45:00 isforth memory maps its source files 11:45:28 forth COULD be used to whoop php's ass 11:45:33 but it would take alot of work 11:45:43 its on the isforth todo list 11:46:05 I'm not sure what 'ass-whooping' entails exactly, but the skill of the programmer is a factor I'm sure. :) 11:46:14 yup 11:46:35 i could give you a demonstration of an ass whooping if you like ??? :)) 11:46:38 *snicker* 11:47:06 only if there's no actual ass, or 'whooping' noises involved. 11:47:13 heh 11:49:15 I am the proud owner of a SX-64. Will be putting VolksForth on it soon. 11:49:28 sx-64 ? 11:49:39 i have an athlon fx-60 11:49:50 portable c64. 5-inch built-in colour screen. 11:49:57 oooh cool :) 11:50:37 quite a cool bit of gear. 25 lbs. Metal case. Looks like an oscilloscope. 11:50:53 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 11:51:42 built-in disk drive. External keyboard that locks into the front for carrying. 11:53:19 Sounds like a c64 version of the Compaq luggable. 11:53:41 With color instead of green phospher. 11:54:10 Or did they have orange? I don't recall. 11:58:07 I remember amber. 11:58:28 long time ago though. The compaq came later, and was smaller. 12:01:03 wow 12:01:09 so is forth a kind fo lisp? 12:02:30 no, it's quite different from Lisp. There are some vague similarities. 12:06:17 wow.. a new interested one.. 12:07:20 well.. when lisp is in the sky then forth is a mole.. 12:08:49 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-169-072.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 12:09:09 ramserver, why do you think Forth is a lisp dialect? 12:09:17 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Nick collision from services.) 12:09:27 --- quit: TreyB (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 12:09:44 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 12:17:58 well 12:18:06 u seem to be able to build anything from it 12:18:12 bottom up programming 12:18:16 n stuff 12:18:26 sky mole? 12:19:40 --- join: Anbidian (i=anbidian@S0106000fb09cff56.ed.shawcable.net) joined #forth 12:26:13 --- join: TreyB (n=trey@cpe-66-87-192-27.tx.sprintbbd.net) joined #forth 12:28:55 Quartus, you around? 12:29:09 yes, hello. 12:29:19 May I PM you? 12:29:26 sure. 12:41:45 ramserver, yeah, you can build a lot with it. 12:42:49 but you have some limitations in 'convenient' use, you don't have really standardized libs for things like gui or console stuff and so on. 12:44:13 specific forth implementations have these libraries 12:44:29 if you pick one and stick with it then its fine 12:44:48 sry, slava but I don't call your lisp forth hybrid not a forth implementation 12:45:02 virl: vfx forth has a web server 12:45:05 swiftforth can do guis 12:45:33 the only real forth implementation is colorforth 12:45:43 yeah, they have what I wrote led to that interpretation 12:45:46 because chuck invented forth and he says ans forth is not forth 12:45:58 * virl thinks that too 12:46:40 slava i consider colorforth to be as much NOT forth as ans forth 12:46:50 lets not argue about 'what is forth' 12:46:57 colorforth is complete gobbledegook to me lol 12:47:00 i think the term 'stack language' is less ambiguous 12:47:07 slava yes! 12:47:15 im not saying its bad. just that its not forth 12:47:20 if you say 'low level stack language' then it includes swiftforth, isforth, colorforth, retroforth 12:47:39 'high level stack languages' are joy, factor, cat, postscript 12:47:57 there are some very NON forth stack based languages 12:48:04 like hp calculators 12:48:17 no. they are forth derived i believe 12:49:18 yes, not too far removed. 12:50:03 i would say ans forth is derived from forth but is not iteslf forth 12:50:12 i would say the same thing about colorforth 12:50:33 there are not enough applications written in forth 12:50:41 true 12:50:45 so you think Forth is only what you do? 12:50:48 or maybe not 12:51:03 i think there are alot more forth apps than we know about 12:51:09 Quartus, no of corse not 12:51:24 well, I'm from the younger Forth generation, so for me is colorforths way, with all it's ideas the real forth way and so forths like retroforth which follow those concepts which are used in colorforth are real forths for me. but the rest ans forths aren't forths for me and probably won't be. 12:51:27 you seem to have ruled out everything else. 12:51:49 virl: have you built any applications in forth? 12:51:57 i didnt rule out fpc :) 12:52:12 or f83 12:52:16 well some people would say fpc is 'bloated' because it includes help, an editor, etc 12:52:25 fpc is bloated 12:52:42 but even with the help and editor and debugger included you can debloat it a hell of a lot 12:52:46 f83 is 16-bit only, with a specific mandated threading model. 12:52:55 firsth thing you do is remove the definition for alias 12:52:55 hell yes, I did! why the hell does everybody who has the name slava or Quartus thinks that I don't do anything in Forth? that is getting on my nerves. 12:53:02 then edit everythign to make it work 12:53:11 and you save quite a few K of binary size 12:53:39 virl: where did i say you're not doing anything in forth? i asked a question 12:54:10 I have never asked what you've written in Forth, virl. I don't actually care. 12:54:44 so why do you ask such a question? 12:54:54 because i'm curious 12:55:05 maybe he wanted the answer. 12:56:37 ugh my windows partition here at work is 35% fragmented ONE DAY after doing a complete defragment (not using windows stupid defrag) 12:56:45 I wrote a small text game and a x11 wrapper lib 12:57:15 the rest I'm playing with it 12:57:31 and start a lot of new projects which I haven't yet finished... 12:59:59 --- quit: Cheery ("Download Gaim: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/") 13:06:07 --- join: vatic (n=chatzill@pool-162-84-156-148.ny5030.east.verizon.net) joined #forth 13:19:44 hey vatic 13:19:57 Quartus: hey! 13:20:02 hey Quartus hey all hey vatic 13:20:08 hey ray 13:20:19 Hay Ray_work! 13:20:21 * Ray_work not only diabetic, also ADHD. found out today. 13:20:40 I have to take pills now. Lots and lots of pills. 13:20:45 Ray_work! :-( 13:20:53 Advanced Dungeons and Dragons? That sounds serious. 13:21:16 Not a bad thing, vatic. Actually nice to know why i've been the way i've been for 40 years+ 13:21:27 Are they making you swallow multi-sided dice? :) 13:21:35 Quartus that's cuz i'm "White and Nerdy" :) 13:21:39 haha 13:21:46 At Pascal, you're #1. 13:21:55 ~/ i'm mowin.... my front lawn /~ 13:22:06 Do vector calculus just for fun. 13:22:31 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@12.18.108.162) joined #forth 13:23:29 hello 13:23:35 hi snowrichard 13:23:48 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEzGIuY7kw 13:24:46 sorry no flash on x86_64 13:25:11 sounds like a very good reason to switch to x86-64 :) 13:25:19 flash is a virus :) 13:25:37 Some new use of the word 'virus' I haven't previously encountered. 13:26:11 as in viral marketing. 13:26:16 exactly 13:26:20 huh? 13:26:53 flash is uesd more often than not to flash stupid "buy me now! buy me now! buy me now!" ad infinitum crap 13:27:02 viral marketing. Download my ebook full of advertisments and links to all of my buddies business. that's one form. 13:27:06 viral marketing refers to a technique whereby existing social networks are used to increase brand awareness. 13:27:16 Nothing to do with computer viruses. 13:27:25 Nothing to do with flash as a method of showing animations or video. 13:27:37 Nothing to do with computers specifically at all. 13:27:46 quartus do you know the DICTIONARY definition for a weed ? 13:27:54 ANYTHING you do not want growing in your garden 13:27:56 period 13:28:00 Weeds are also not viruses. 13:28:20 Neither in the biological nor in the computer sense. 13:28:24 anything i do not want on my computer but is put there by other people is a virus 13:28:34 that includes spam advert content in the sites i visit 13:28:41 So, it is some new use of the word 'virus'. 13:29:43 85 degrees inside here today 13:29:56 Take your head out of the slow-cooker, snowrichard :) 13:30:27 I'm in a mobile home, and the central ac is on the blink. I've 3 window units trying to cool it 13:30:49 Turn off all computers and hang wet cloth in the windows. 13:33:11 Computers generate a surprising amount of heat. 13:33:21 Especially in a small space like a mobile home. 13:35:41 --- join: jcw (n=jcw@adsl-074-238-180-251.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) joined #forth 13:37:56 well I've started the central unit. I don't know how long it will stay on it keeps tripping its breaker 13:38:22 Mine did that a few years ago. Ate electricity like a maniac, and I think it actually made the place hotter. 13:39:39 when the ac guy came out to fix it the first time the compressor coils were a solid block of ice. It had been running with no filter 13:40:02 Ugh. 13:40:10 so he hosed it out 13:42:33 and put in a new thermostat 13:44:23 I need tunes be back in a sec 13:45:15 k 13:45:45 its dropped 1 degree 13:47:34 Every degree counts. :) 14:02:00 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 14:02:01 lol 14:02:06