00:00:00 --- log: started forth/06.05.16 00:10:40 --- quit: JasonWoof ("off to bed") 00:54:45 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 00:55:12 hi 01:08:41 --- join: Ray_work (n=Raystm2@adsl-68-89-124-38.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) joined #forth 01:08:41 --- quit: Ray-work (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 01:10:24 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 01:15:58 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 01:19:25 hello 01:22:15 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 01:35:05 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 01:35:32 hi 02:05:04 hi 02:51:22 hello 02:52:49 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 03:08:38 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 04:53:29 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 04:54:01 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-3pool158-122.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 04:55:10 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 04:55:33 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 04:56:00 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 04:57:11 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 04:58:21 hi 05:51:18 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 05:51:27 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 05:51:53 hi 05:53:47 --- join: timlarson_ (n=timlarso@65.116.199.19) joined #forth 05:55:10 hi tim 05:59:18 hi 06:17:16 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 06:34:34 --- join: Cheery (i=Henri@a81-197-22-81.elisa-laajakaista.fi) joined #forth 06:38:45 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool75-130.nas24.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 06:57:58 hey poppavic 06:58:00 brb 06:58:08 howdy 06:59:48 been fighting with my router -- trying to let people on my irc server, had to make my system the DMZ one 07:01:10 DMZ is suffic ;-) 07:01:43 I lack a router, and never had to fight one - nothing I hear about routers and such thrills me much 07:01:49 I've got half a dozen daemons running anyway 07:02:09 httpd sshd ircd ftpd 07:02:33 If I wanted folks in, I'd set up apache or sshd for connections. 07:02:33 even a simulated VAX sometines on telnet 07:03:05 I'm the only one logs on the vax though :) 07:03:12 as is, I use a dialup and don't much need folks to enter, anymore 07:03:26 I have marketing stuff on the apache2 07:03:34 and some software pages 07:04:06 ...it's like CVS - why would I bother? 07:04:25 to use CVS for your own project? I tried once gave up 07:04:41 any *VS makes me pretty ill 07:04:52 shit, you'd spend more time managing than programming 07:05:00 actually I could do the editing on the VAX it has versioned files system 07:05:18 auto backups 07:05:19 :) 07:05:23 This is why Bog created tarballing 07:05:44 once I get something working I post tars on my webservers 07:05:53 yep 07:06:16 ..or backup daily to the hdd, elsewhere - or a flash - or a cd 07:06:32 bah 07:06:33 I got a cd burner -- CD/RW fairly cheap 07:07:28 most VCS's these days are trivial to use 07:07:44 I haven't tried SVNS 07:07:45 yes 07:07:48 yet even 07:08:18 used a front to CVS called cervisia once 07:08:24 * PoppaVic has started a FLASH backup 07:08:55 tathi: I could care less, since I don't want to manage the install or uses. 07:09:19 yeah, whatever works for you 07:09:33 Now... If someone wants to PAY me to drop everything and manage their *vs, fine. 07:09:34 personally, I can't imagine trying to do any development without one 07:09:46 I can - but I'm ancient 07:09:59 what is this nonsense about "managing a *vs"? 07:10:39 you install and configure SVN, it's a one-time deal, it might take a half hour 07:10:41 tathi: installing, talking with it as a user or op, devolutions, and then trying to "just code" 07:10:51 after that you just use it 07:11:07 svn ci -m "blah blah blah" instead of making a tarball and copying it somewhere 07:11:13 As a rule, I don't even "go root" unless something is horribly wrong. 07:11:13 it doesn't get in your way 07:11:35 unless you have an extensive series of scripts to manage your tarballs, it's actually less typing than whatever you're currently doing 07:11:36 svn is a cvs variant, I presume? 07:11:43 yes. 07:11:58 or use one of the newer distributed variants, and don't even need to go root at all 07:12:07 hmm - I may look into that sometime 07:12:38 I mean, if you don't want to use anything, that's fine 07:13:07 but the effort to install one and learn how to use it should really not present a significant barrier 07:13:19 Yeah, I think it needs a basic install/interface like tar and such - or just "not" 07:13:33 tathi: I'd agree. 07:14:24 hmm, actually, you don't have to run an svn server, you can just have the repository in your filesystem somewhere 07:14:48 anyway. 07:14:49 Anyway... I puzzled out a pile of code the other day, fixed an irksome typo that was global today - "confidence levels are high" ;-) 07:14:51 How's Metabuilder going? 07:15:42 How do "bodies" break down? Almost all seem to have a "payload" and an "executive"... 07:16:42 found out I can videotape my computer screen neat new toy 07:17:13 might make a linux tutorial video :) 07:17:32 but I'd need another VCR or vid capture card to edit 07:19:11 XT seems to be seriously vague, but payload vs executor (pfa, cfa) seem to be a constant. 07:19:55 --- join: virl (i=core@chello062178085149.1.12.vie.surfer.at) joined #forth 07:21:11 more precisely: the pfa and cfa access seems to be fairly constant, but I'm trying to codify "body" better. 07:21:55 yeah, people tend to use it somewhat ambiguously 07:22:51 well, I can envision "body" as an opaque ptr, but it seems to me that the concepts of "cfa" and "pfa" end up being eternal. 07:24:02 I sorta' took yer 'opcode' ideas down a level, but I'm flogging it all into better shape. 07:35:27 http://rafb.net/paste/results/anUdLq92.html 07:35:39 above for you, tathi - it's out of "context", but fun ;-) 07:38:34 brb - system wants a restart... 07:38:38 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 07:51:44 --- join: PoppaVic (n=pete@0-1pool67-242.nas22.chicago4.il.us.da.qwest.net) joined #forth 07:52:23 hah! - soft-update FINALLY ran - and I slipped in a phonecall ;-) 07:54:25 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 08:24:27 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 08:27:53 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 08:41:24 --- quit: PoppaVic ("Pulls the pin...") 09:21:40 --- join: snoopy_1711 (i=snoopy_1@dslb-084-058-155-126.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 09:30:03 --- quit: Snoopy42 (Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)) 09:30:25 --- nick: snoopy_1711 -> Snoopy42 09:30:57 --- join: JasonWoof (n=jason@pdpc/supporter/student/Herkamire) joined #forth 09:30:57 --- mode: ChanServ set +o JasonWoof 10:01:23 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 10:15:42 --- nick: Raystm2 -> nanstm 10:38:01 --- quit: timlarson_ (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 11:10:04 --- quit: tathi ("foo") 12:05:10 hi 12:05:19 finished audio editing session 12:52:47 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 12:57:27 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 13:46:46 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 13:48:07 --- quit: madwork ("?OUT OF DATA ERROR") 13:49:33 --- join: madwork (n=foo@derby.metrics.com) joined #forth 13:59:12 --- quit: tathi (Remote closed the connection) 13:59:21 --- join: tathi (n=josh@pdpc/supporter/bronze/tathi) joined #forth 14:13:26 --- join: nighty_ (n=nighty@maki.rural-networks.com) joined #forth 14:19:57 --- quit: Cheery ("Leaving") 14:36:11 --- join: adafdslk (n=asdlkewj@p54A07B87.dip.t-dialin.net) joined #forth 15:01:05 --- quit: adafdslk ("leaving") 15:09:01 --- quit: snowrichard ("Leaving") 15:26:28 --- quit: virl ("Verlassend") 16:26:33 --- join: segher__ (n=segher@dslb-084-056-136-016.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 16:36:13 --- quit: segher_ (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) 16:40:35 --- quit: nighty_ ("Disappears in a puff of smoke") 18:44:10 --- quit: uiuiuiu (Remote closed the connection) 18:44:13 --- join: uiuiuiu (i=ian@dslb-084-056-233-177.pools.arcor-ip.net) joined #forth 18:55:47 --- join: snowrichard (n=richard@adsl-69-155-177-154.dsl.lgvwtx.swbell.net) joined #forth 18:56:21 hi 18:57:55 --- quit: snowrichard (Client Quit) 19:24:35 --- quit: tathi ("leaving") 20:39:51 --- join: Sonarman (n=cleetus@adsl-71-141-115-147.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) joined #forth 20:41:07 Ray_work: ping 21:34:29 --- join: Sonarman_ (n=cleetus@adsl-71-141-163-38.dsl.snfc21.sbcglobal.net) joined #forth 21:34:43 --- quit: Sonarman (Nick collision from services.) 21:34:50 --- nick: Sonarman_ -> Sonarman 22:40:29 --- quit: slava ("Lost terminal") 22:55:47 --- join: airbrush (i=airbrush@216-237-213-198-access-r30-ad.northstate.net) joined #forth 23:14:21 --- quit: airbrush ("Leaving") 23:49:13 --- quit: saon (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) 23:52:24 --- join: saon (i=1000@c-66-177-224-164.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) joined #forth 23:59:59 --- log: ended forth/06.05.16