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00:15:36 <segher_> charles`: not in a standard way -- the stack is not necessarily in addressable memory.  on most implementations where it is, it is possible though -- try   DP @   or something.  read the docs for your implementation :-)
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07:34:24 <PoppaVic> hmmmm
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10:41:50 <virl> hi and ping
10:42:08 <JasonWoof> ho and pong
10:54:30 <virl> how are you?
10:54:36 <virl> what's shaking?
10:54:54 <virl> did you continue with your specs?
10:55:03 <virl> how far are you with them?
10:55:56 <JasonWoof> I described the basic usage and instruction encoding
10:55:59 <JasonWoof> the stacks
10:56:16 <JasonWoof> but I haven't described individual instructions or syscalls
10:56:28 <JasonWoof> I posted what I have so far
10:56:53 <JasonWoof> http://jasonwoof.com/downloads/fovium-spec-2006-04-19.txt
10:57:00 <virl> what syscalls do you want to use?
10:57:30 <JasonWoof> not linux syscalls
10:57:36 <JasonWoof> for the vm
10:58:08 <JasonWoof> I have emit, wait-event, term-color, term-move, quit
10:59:10 <JasonWoof> and more I'm sure
10:59:31 <JasonWoof> save
11:00:00 <JasonWoof> I'll add more later
11:00:10 <JasonWoof> for doing graphics
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13:04:56 <JasonWoof> oops
13:05:15 <JasonWoof> upgraded ffmpeg so it'd to xvid
13:05:21 <JasonWoof> then rebuilt vlc
13:05:36 <JasonWoof> but forgot to specify that I wanted ffmpeg support in vlc
13:05:53 <JasonWoof> well, maybe in an hour or two I'll be able to play the movie
13:06:14 <JasonWoof> ffplay can do the video correctly, but the sound is a mess
13:06:15 <slava> it all works better on OS X :)
13:06:28 <JasonWoof> nah
13:06:38 <JasonWoof> it plays, but has crap guis all over
13:07:00 <slava> VLC runs on OS X
13:07:05 <JasonWoof> yeah
13:07:06 <JasonWoof> with a gui
13:07:13 <slava> the GUI is fine
13:07:16 <slava> you click 'play'
13:07:18 <slava> you watch your video
13:07:25 <JasonWoof> I don't freaking want to hit play
13:07:29 <JasonWoof> I want to watch the movie
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14:00:04 <virl> hmm, graphics is platform depending
14:02:06 <slava> well, you can use a crappy abstraction layer, like SDL or Java's AWT
14:04:24 <slava> i've never found a decent graphics library that runs on X11, Windows and OS X
14:04:34 <slava> everything has annoying limitations
14:09:35 <JasonWoof> just because SDL isn't designed to make windowed applications doesn't make it crappy
14:09:46 <JasonWoof> SDL is an excelent game programming library
14:16:53 <slava> sure, but i said graphics library, not game library
14:17:11 <slava> and even the single-window stuff is buggy on OS X
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15:37:25 <JasonWoof> I wonder if google analizes traffic patterns to check the helpfulness of their search results
15:38:18 <JasonWoof> eg if it notices when people click 4 different search results with only a very short time in between if it figures there's a decent probability that the first 3 were not what I was looking for
15:39:24 <JasonWoof> nm, google shouldn't be able to tell what you click on
15:39:48 <JasonWoof> they only do redirects with the ads
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15:55:23 <arke> JasonWoof: hows the VM spec? :)
16:02:15 <JasonWoof> arke: partially completed
16:02:27 <JasonWoof> includes the instruction encoding, stacks, registers...
16:02:33 <JasonWoof> oops, didn't mention the A register
16:02:48 <JasonWoof> http://jasonwoof.com/downloads/fovium-spec-2006-04-19.txt
16:02:51 <Amanita_Virosa> hehe i'm tinkering with something forth-ish myself at the moment
16:02:52 <JasonWoof> there's the draft
16:02:56 <Amanita_Virosa> tho it's not a "proper" forth
16:03:05 <JasonWoof> no such thing as proper forth :)
16:09:09 <Amanita_Virosa> well, a forth that's a functional part of a working assembler...
16:09:11 <Amanita_Virosa> has 3 stacks
16:09:13 <Amanita_Virosa> and doesn't compile
16:09:16 <Amanita_Virosa> that's... not a normal forth
16:15:58 <arke> hi Amanita_Virosa 
16:16:25 <Raystm2> arke, did the pm with tiff work?
16:16:50 <Raystm2> I guess I'm asking, did you ever get the response she typed?
16:25:16 <JasonWoof> oh yeah, you have to tell nickserve that you want to be able to get /msg from people who haven't registered their nick
16:26:12 <Raystm2> 'swhat I thought.
16:26:17 <Raystm2> thanks JasonWoof.
16:27:16 <Raystm2> What's the forth word to get rid of this toothache?
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16:58:49 <Raystm2> JasonWoof: Images Overview .... Fovium allocates 1MiB.... 
16:58:58 <Raystm2> Whats a MiB?
17:00:37 <Amanita_Virosa> mibibyte :P
17:00:42 <Amanita_Virosa> i only wish i was joking
17:02:07 <JasonWoof> Mi is the prefix meaning 10^20
17:03:14 <Raystm2> Thank you, both.
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17:06:59 <Amanita_Virosa> wait... i thought Mi was the 2^20
17:07:03 <Amanita_Virosa> you mean 2^20 :P
17:07:10 <Amanita_Virosa> 10^20 is a really big number.
17:13:30 <Raystm2> 10b^20
17:13:58 <Raystm2> Someone, earlier, said the base is always 10. :)
17:27:55 <JasonWoof> lol
17:27:59 <JasonWoof> sorry 2^20 is correct
17:28:10 <JasonWoof> 1024*1024
17:28:38 <JasonWoof> people figure it's time to be accurate
17:28:57 <JasonWoof> let M mean million as it should
17:29:10 <JasonWoof> and have a different prefix that means 2^20
17:29:38 <JasonWoof> KiB is 1024 bytes
17:29:54 <JasonWoof> MiB is 1024^2 bytes
17:30:01 <JasonWoof> GiB is 1024^3 bytes etc
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